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ballasdontcry
Canada595 Posts
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
On January 23 2012 08:22 ballasdontcry wrote: dominoes are falling, i think it's only a matter of time before other file sharing sites start feeling the heat. fuck this honestly Apparently Fileshare has started removing tonnes of copyright material from their servers, deleting accounts and what not just today. they're feeling that they might be next it seems. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2972 Posts
Torrents probably will last for awhile, but I think probably one of the only safe bastions for piracy is in usenet - which I've considered multiple times over the years, but too cheap to consider paying for it. | ||
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nodnod
New Zealand172 Posts
Having said that, we all know the real reason behind this crack down is greed. That is, the music/film industry isn't getting the return that they expected (T/N losing millions in profit /= not making money). Instead, they really need to take a hard look at themselves and the crappy quality of music and films that have flooded the market and ask why people instead choose to 'sample' the products before they pay for them. If you support file sharing and/or hate the greed of the industry, just stop buying music/going to movies. Save up for concerts and shows instead. | ||
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Serpico
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
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Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
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tMomiji
United States1115 Posts
On January 23 2012 08:39 Marradron wrote: I just dont believe in paying for things that have been aired on tv or the radio. Anyone in the world could have used a tape recorder to record the song, movie or series. I just consider torrentz my always active tv recorder. If taping shows on tv to use yourself is legal so should recording them digitaly. EXACTLY. THANK YOU. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On January 23 2012 08:00 sc4k wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2012 07:48 nam nam wrote: On January 23 2012 07:40 sc4k wrote: On January 23 2012 07:07 MichaelDonovan wrote: On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote: I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch. Not only is that not true, but it is an irresponsible thing to say. Well look I think piracy is an interesting and useful market force. Personally I think entertainment is overpriced. Music albums should be £1-2, movies should be £2-3. If that were the case piracy would be massively diminished and have served its use which is driving down the price of the products. But I don't like all this masquerading as a battle about free speech, it's a battle to keep pirating and pirate streaming. Yeah but the bill could potentially be used for much more than simply stopping torrent sites and such. Even if it wouldn't be used for shutting down youtube or whatever it technically could be used for it. Do you really want to have those kinds of laws? It's not really fair to paint it as a pro-piracy against anti-piracy argument as that is disengenious. Any law where you have nothing more than the lawmakers words for that it wouldn't be misused is a bad law. I really, seriously doubt it. What possible things could they take down which weren't connected with piracy, without there being a public outcry and some serious pressure that would be about a million times the pressure there is now?? Did you miss Universal Music Group trying to take down the megaupload song back in December despite not even having copyright over it? (it was removed twice because of them) Guess who just this past week dropped their lawsuit against UMG for abusing Youtube's copyright policy to take down videos that didn't belong to them? -> Megaupload. Wonder why. The entertainment industry doesn't give a shit about copyright, if they can take stuff down they will, even if they don't own it. Heck UMG's defense was the claim that it had an exclusive youtube contract granting them the ability to remove anything they want regardless of whether or not they owned rights to it. How insane is that? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On January 23 2012 08:00 sc4k wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2012 07:48 nam nam wrote: On January 23 2012 07:40 sc4k wrote: On January 23 2012 07:07 MichaelDonovan wrote: On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote: I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch. Not only is that not true, but it is an irresponsible thing to say. Well look I think piracy is an interesting and useful market force. Personally I think entertainment is overpriced. Music albums should be £1-2, movies should be £2-3. If that were the case piracy would be massively diminished and have served its use which is driving down the price of the products. But I don't like all this masquerading as a battle about free speech, it's a battle to keep pirating and pirate streaming. Yeah but the bill could potentially be used for much more than simply stopping torrent sites and such. Even if it wouldn't be used for shutting down youtube or whatever it technically could be used for it. Do you really want to have those kinds of laws? It's not really fair to paint it as a pro-piracy against anti-piracy argument as that is disengenious. Any law where you have nothing more than the lawmakers words for that it wouldn't be misused is a bad law. I really, seriously doubt it. What possible things could they take down which weren't connected with piracy, without there being a public outcry and some serious pressure that would be about a million times the pressure there is now?? Did you miss Universal Music Group trying to take down the megaupload song back in December despite not even having copyright over it? (it was removed twice because of them) Guess who just this past week dropped their lawsuit against UMG for abusing Youtube's copyright policy to take down videos that didn't belong to them? -> Megaupload. Wonder why. The entertainment industry doesn't give a shit about copyright, if they can take stuff down they will, even if they don't own it. Heck UMG's defense was the claim that it had an exclusive youtube contract granting them the ability to remove anything they want regardless of whether or not they owned rights to it. How insane is that?[/QUOTE] It took a woman 5 years in court to find that a video of a baby dancing to the radio was, in fact, fair use, and that UMG had no right taking it down. Last I heard, they're still appealing the decision that they owe her lawyer fees. The DMCA laws basically thrive on the fact that no individual can afford the money or the time to go to court to fight unfair takedowns. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
Kill Megaupload/Filesonic Can we start branding music services as TL enemy number one yet? | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On January 23 2012 08:28 nodnod wrote: Of course Filesonic decided to shut down its file sharing services after the arrest of Kim Dotcom (a founder of Megaupload). I mean if you knew you've been doing something illegal and if you knew the authority just arrested someone who's been doing the same thing, why wouldn't you try to lay low and/or destroy the evidence. False. File sharing sites should qualify for safe harbour in the US. If infringing files are uploaded, only the uploader is liable. Megaupload screwed up by acknowledging they knew about specific pirated content in leaked emails. If Filesonic didn't do this they should be legal. Otherwise Youtube would be shut down too. | ||
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SlowBullets
United States839 Posts
Should I delete my account on Mediafire though? I have tons of uploaded albums mainly for my backing them up and sharing them with close friends. Not sure really... ![]() | ||
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Whias_k
36 Posts
I really do not get why the company's doesn't focus more on getting the product released to more people instead of this Witch haunt on pirates i have never seen any evidence that the big company's are loosing money they couldn't get by making the product cheaper or easier to buy. | ||
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Pleiades
United States472 Posts
On January 23 2012 08:39 Marradron wrote: I just dont believe in paying for things that have been aired on tv or the radio. Anyone in the world could have used a tape recorder to record the song, movie or series. I just consider torrentz my always active tv recorder. If taping shows on tv to use yourself is legal so should recording them digitaly. Recording it is one issue, distributing it is another. I don't really have a stance in all of this, but I'd like to say that the industry should change, like how blockbuster is doing now compared to netflix. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On January 23 2012 09:03 Whias_k wrote: So i recently started listen to some audio books while i drive and stuff, so i found an author i liked and thought hey why not buy the books legit, and support him well guess what I can't because it's freaking region based how stupid is that? I really do not get why the company's doesn't focus more on getting the product released to more people instead of this Witch haunt on pirates i have never seen any evidence that the big company's are loosing money they couldn't get by making the product cheaper or easier to buy. The rule for all problems in this world is to try to fix the consequences, and not the causes. I wish someone would just make a Steam platform for movies and tv show, selling them at a fair price. This would have a real effect on piracy, instead of tracking website or pirates that get remplaced in the hour. The most stupid thing about this.. A lot os us are pirating movies and tv show only because we can't even watched them by a legal way. | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
Time to head for uncharted waters. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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