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HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 01:07:20
January 23 2012 00:21 GMT
#101
Currently downloading all the music I was too lazy to download
Bobgrimly
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand250 Posts
January 23 2012 00:25 GMT
#102
On January 23 2012 08:39 Marradron wrote:
I just dont believe in paying for things that have been aired on tv or the radio. Anyone in the world could have used a tape recorder to record the song, movie or series. I just consider torrentz my always active tv recorder. If taping shows on tv to use yourself is legal so should recording them digitaly.


This so many times this. Combined with media companies holding out for unreasonable payments for shows to go overseas I pirate all american tv... why? Cause I can't get it in new zealand in a timely/affordable manner.

I would gladly pay to have the shows streamable within an hour of airing in america. GLADLY PAY. But the companies don't want my money. They want to give it to pirates. Their own stupid fault for not catching up with the internet. They need a worldwide sight that sells their products in hq streams that have current shows/movies. For a reasonable monthly fee they would have instantly millions of subscribers and be raking in the money.

But they would rather fuel the internet and lawyers with money than take it themselves. In fact I am starting to think the media companies are run by lawyers who only get paid by forcing people to break the law so they can prosecute them.

As has been mentioned plenty of times, piracy is actually free advertising. And it DOES WORK in boosting sales. A silly concept hollywood is to retarded to pick up on.


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FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 00:31:06
January 23 2012 00:28 GMT
#103
On January 23 2012 07:16 MikailCaboose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:10 OmiDeLta wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:07 MichaelDonovan wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote:
I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch.


Not only is that not true, but it is an irresponsible thing to say.


^ This, one hundred percent.

You know on another note I've heard of bands who are okay with piracy of their music because it gives them free publicity...

Disturbed supports the piracy of their songs, because CD sales are only there for publishing companies. Bands do not make money from CD sales, they make it from the concerts, which people go to to experience it live, and is not hampered by piracy at all. In fact, ironically, piracy helps the band themselves more.

Also, I remember reading about this one...I think it was an author, who decided to 'leak' copies of his book so that it could be 'pirated', and found that his sales increased by almost (and I am remembering this from the article) 300% the week after he did that. Can somebody check on this? I can't remember the author.


It was 4chan, they scanned in his graphic novel and sales went up.

And to the OP: You mentioned TPB. Thats not who they're aiming for here. They're aiming for businesses that are pretending to be legit while taking money off people to download illegal files.

I have never paid for TV (didn't even pay License Fee when in UK) but I would insta buy a Netflix account if it was available. Massive amount of easily streamable content in high quality? Deal.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 23 2012 00:28 GMT
#104
On January 23 2012 08:14 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 08:13 paralleluniverse wrote:
On January 23 2012 08:09 schimmetje wrote:
The Pirate Bay example is not really a good one, they don't host the files. Stuff will just move. And that's exactly the reason why this is just not going to take piracy out of the picture. It can be made less convenient, but people who want it can always get it somewhere. The real way to combat this would be for the major content producers to make getting (and actually owning, none of this renting sillyness) access to their stuff legally convenient, to coincide with making pirated content harder (but again, not impossible) to find. But they keep wanting their cake and eat it too. Maybe next decade right?

On January 23 2012 08:00 sc4k wrote:
I really, seriously doubt it. What possible things could they take down which weren't connected with piracy, without there being a public outcry and some serious pressure that would be about a million times the pressure there is now??


This is actually a favorite tactic of Scientology to name but one. You don't like something about you on the net, you claim intellectual property and have it taken down. You really don't see what could go wrong there?


I think the main reason for piracy is because:
1) It's easier and quicker to access than the real thing
2) It's not region locked
3) It's not DRM restricted

And all these things are the fault of the studios and their distributors.

The government should not help people who refuse to help themselves.

If we could simply pay to download American TV shows, 1 hour after it airs in the US, and if it were as easy as torrenting, then piracy would drastically fall in Australia. And if what we bought weren't crippled with DRM, piracy wouldn't be so prevalent.

But the truth is in order to legally get American TV shows we have to wait 6 months or more from the US air date, long after all the internet discussions on forums or twitter or wherever have past, and the spoilers are all over the internet.

It is possible to torrent American TV shows 1 hour after it airs, anywhere in the whole world, without any DRM restrictions, it is simply a superior service in every measurable way. And I assume the same applies for legally access Japanese media from the US.

Media companies and the distributors have brought this on themselves by so fiercely holding on to their archaic business model of last century. They are out of touch, stuck in the past, uncreative, visionless, yet charge for a product that is worse, less timely, and harder to obtain than the free alternative.

Pirates do a far better job than these distribution companies and their not even paid for it.


No the number 1 reason is because IT'S FREE


The fact that it's easier and that it's free are both number one reasons imo. If I wanted to watch friends right now, it would be quicker for me to download it off a torrent instead of buying the DVDs, online or in a store. AND it's free.
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Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 23 2012 00:28 GMT
#105
this is so sad . i cant afford to buy everything im interested in
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CadaverSculptor
Profile Joined December 2011
Korea (South)23 Posts
January 23 2012 00:32 GMT
#106
It's bullshit considering most of my music dl's are via torrents.
xiaoW
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
January 23 2012 00:32 GMT
#107
2012... the end of the world wide web.
never imagined it's coming closer to the end.


On a more serious and contradicting to what I have stated above, I am sure real pirates will always find a way to distribute files illegaly, no matter what the FBI/US government is going to do.
nekoconeco
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia359 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 00:44:15
January 23 2012 00:37 GMT
#108
On January 23 2012 09:28 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 08:14 Malgrif wrote:
On January 23 2012 08:13 paralleluniverse wrote:
On January 23 2012 08:09 schimmetje wrote:
The Pirate Bay example is not really a good one, they don't host the files. Stuff will just move. And that's exactly the reason why this is just not going to take piracy out of the picture. It can be made less convenient, but people who want it can always get it somewhere. The real way to combat this would be for the major content producers to make getting (and actually owning, none of this renting sillyness) access to their stuff legally convenient, to coincide with making pirated content harder (but again, not impossible) to find. But they keep wanting their cake and eat it too. Maybe next decade right?

On January 23 2012 08:00 sc4k wrote:
I really, seriously doubt it. What possible things could they take down which weren't connected with piracy, without there being a public outcry and some serious pressure that would be about a million times the pressure there is now??


This is actually a favorite tactic of Scientology to name but one. You don't like something about you on the net, you claim intellectual property and have it taken down. You really don't see what could go wrong there?


I think the main reason for piracy is because:
1) It's easier and quicker to access than the real thing
2) It's not region locked
3) It's not DRM restricted

And all these things are the fault of the studios and their distributors.

The government should not help people who refuse to help themselves.

If we could simply pay to download American TV shows, 1 hour after it airs in the US, and if it were as easy as torrenting, then piracy would drastically fall in Australia. And if what we bought weren't crippled with DRM, piracy wouldn't be so prevalent.

But the truth is in order to legally get American TV shows we have to wait 6 months or more from the US air date, long after all the internet discussions on forums or twitter or wherever have past, and the spoilers are all over the internet.

It is possible to torrent American TV shows 1 hour after it airs, anywhere in the whole world, without any DRM restrictions, it is simply a superior service in every measurable way. And I assume the same applies for legally access Japanese media from the US.

Media companies and the distributors have brought this on themselves by so fiercely holding on to their archaic business model of last century. They are out of touch, stuck in the past, uncreative, visionless, yet charge for a product that is worse, less timely, and harder to obtain than the free alternative.

Pirates do a far better job than these distribution companies and their not even paid for it.


No the number 1 reason is because IT'S FREE


The fact that it's easier and that it's free are both number one reasons imo. If I wanted to watch friends right now, it would be quicker for me to download it off a torrent instead of buying the DVDs, online or in a store. AND it's free.


I don't really think it being free has as much to do with it as people think. Megaupload and Filesonic subscriptions do cost money but are easier and more accessible than using torrents/usenet/etc.... It is basically due to this "Media companies and the distributors have brought this on themselves by so fiercely holding on to their archaic business model of last century."

2012... the end of the world wide web.


At this point the web is such a vital part of the world economy that the end of the web would trigger a worldwide meltdown (essentially the end of the world as we know it). I don't think these politicians really have any idea of what they are playing around with.
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nodnod
Profile Joined April 2011
New Zealand172 Posts
January 23 2012 00:44 GMT
#109
On January 23 2012 08:58 Soleron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 08:28 nodnod wrote:
Of course Filesonic decided to shut down its file sharing services after the arrest of Kim Dotcom (a founder of Megaupload). I mean if you knew you've been doing something illegal and if you knew the authority just arrested someone who's been doing the same thing, why wouldn't you try to lay low and/or destroy the evidence.


False. File sharing sites should qualify for safe harbour in the US. If infringing files are uploaded, only the uploader is liable.

Megaupload screwed up by acknowledging they knew about specific pirated content in leaked emails. If Filesonic didn't do this they should be legal. Otherwise Youtube would be shut down too.


Then why did Filesonic shut down their file sharing service?

Also, it's in reality very hard to prove that one doesn't know about the illegal content on their server, and most importantly, if the plaintiff can prove/claim that Filesonic financially benefited from distribution of the illegal content then the site wouldn't be eligible for the safe harbour protection.
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
January 23 2012 00:52 GMT
#110
Oh god no! Not pirate bay!
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 00:58:33
January 23 2012 00:56 GMT
#111
On January 23 2012 07:58 Malkavian183 wrote:
As an answer to OP, i don't think Pirate Bay will go down as it is not hosted in USA. If i remember right it is stated in either Netherlands or Sweden so it should remain unaffected by SOPA. At least for now.

Its in Sweden, and remember, Sweden tends to either not care about piracy, or actually is in favor of it. Look at the thread where Sweden recognizes Kopimism (Basically a religion centered on piracy) as a legitimate religion.

On January 23 2012 09:37 nekoconeco wrote:
I don't think these politicians really have any idea of what they are playing around with.

Do they ever?
Who called in the fleet?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 23 2012 01:10 GMT
#112
On January 23 2012 08:39 Marradron wrote:
I just dont believe in paying for things that have been aired on tv or the radio. Anyone in the world could have used a tape recorder to record the song, movie or series. I just consider torrentz my always active tv recorder. If taping shows on tv to use yourself is legal so should recording them digitaly.

I just don't believe in giving a voice to stupid people on the Internet but unfortunately, neither of our beliefs are legitimate.
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darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
January 23 2012 01:11 GMT
#113
I wonder how long before the internet riots start. "hacking" really isn't that hard. How much are we going to take before we start smashing virtual windows?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 01:18:30
January 23 2012 01:13 GMT
#114
So the previous thread had a bunch of people whining that Megaupload had a legitimate function of personal file storage, and Filesonic has decided that they will only enable personal file storage and you're whining about that too. I wonder why...

Nothing but a bunch of greedy cretins. The ridiculous sense of entitlement is palpable.
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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
January 23 2012 01:13 GMT
#115
How on earth would two sites going down be the end of the interwebs? -_-;;

Filesharing sites have been taken down for the last 10 years and everytime something new came in it's place.
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Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 23 2012 01:15 GMT
#116
On January 23 2012 10:11 darkscream wrote:
I wonder how long before the internet riots start. "hacking" really isn't that hard. How much are we going to take before we start smashing virtual windows?

the day megaupload went down quite a few major sites (including the department of justice site) got ddos'd for a couple hours. if something truly drastic happens they will get a lot of shit im sure
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SausageLinks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States93 Posts
January 23 2012 01:15 GMT
#117
banking everything on Mediafire. if that one goes down, then I'm done.
n00b never die
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
January 23 2012 01:24 GMT
#118
On January 23 2012 10:13 Jibba wrote:
So the previous thread had a bunch of people whining that Megaupload had a legitimate function of personal file storage, and Filesonic has decided that they will only enable personal file storage and you're whining about that too. I wonder why...

Nothing but a bunch of greedy cretins. The ridiculous sense of entitlement is palpable.

Is piracy one of the uses of cyber lockers? Sure, but you seem to claim that it's the only reason people are pissed off that they are shutting down file sharing, which is crap. Sharing large files between many people is cumbersome without sites like megaupload or mediafire giving that service.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7326 Posts
January 23 2012 01:25 GMT
#119
i wonder when they are going to come after the porn tubes? Seems inevitable.

:O

t.t filesonic was so good.
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EienShinwa
Profile Joined May 2010
United States655 Posts
January 23 2012 01:26 GMT
#120
This reminds me a lot about the shutdown of several manga sharing sites a few years back, like OneManga, Mangatoshokan, and others. Hopefully, this one will have about the same results or less D:
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