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pure_protoss
Profile Joined April 2011
152 Posts
January 23 2012 01:49 GMT
#141
doomsday incoming!

the day internet will be completely regulated and where it will be completely restricted!
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
January 23 2012 01:50 GMT
#142
let's be honest people. we were getting lots of free shit from MU and filesonic. their operation may have had a legitimate use but it certainly was being exploited.
The Show of a Lifetime
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 01:51:09
January 23 2012 01:50 GMT
#143
On January 23 2012 10:46 Jibba wrote:
The Internet has never been free. You're losing access to the toys that no one cared about before. The mature response is "it was good while it lasted."

And of the people complaining about quality of content and distribution, how many of you pay for th HBO shows you watch?

The internet is the most free form of sharing things we have and I'd rather not see it eventually get turned into what TV packages are. Media will get segregated into tiers and package deals sooner or later because people think they can make money off it Paying for facebook/cnn/wikipedia might be part of a contract with your ISP in 20 years.. And the way the government is going at piracy right now is completely fruitless anyways.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
January 23 2012 01:53 GMT
#144
Wtf is the point of this? Can't the US goverment understand that if only the U.S. has these stupid laws, all hosting and internet based companies will have to be based in other countries? They aren't getting rid of these sites or piracy, but instead just moving them outside of the U.S.

Just wait, soon the US will make a huge firewall like China, to block any website they want to, even if they change their hosting location.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 23 2012 01:54 GMT
#145
On January 23 2012 10:50 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 10:46 Jibba wrote:
The Internet has never been free. You're losing access to the toys that no one cared about before. The mature response is "it was good while it lasted."

And of the people complaining about quality of content and distribution, how many of you pay for th HBO shows you watch?

The internet is the most free form of sharing things we have and I'd rather not see it eventually get turned into what TV packages are. Media will get segregated into tiers and package deals sooner or later because people think they can make money off it Paying for facebook/cnn/wikipedia might be part of a contract with your ISP in 20 years.. And the way the government is going at piracy right now is completely fruitless anyways.

I don't think it is fruitless. It will never eliminate it completely but if there's pressures and risks, people will begin purchasing more and more as they get older and get jobs. That's what I've done.
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
January 23 2012 01:59 GMT
#146
On January 23 2012 10:54 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 10:50 Serpico wrote:
On January 23 2012 10:46 Jibba wrote:
The Internet has never been free. You're losing access to the toys that no one cared about before. The mature response is "it was good while it lasted."

And of the people complaining about quality of content and distribution, how many of you pay for th HBO shows you watch?

The internet is the most free form of sharing things we have and I'd rather not see it eventually get turned into what TV packages are. Media will get segregated into tiers and package deals sooner or later because people think they can make money off it Paying for facebook/cnn/wikipedia might be part of a contract with your ISP in 20 years.. And the way the government is going at piracy right now is completely fruitless anyways.

I don't think it is fruitless. It will never eliminate it completely but if there's pressures and risks, people will begin purchasing more and more as they get older and get jobs. That's what I've done.


That happens either way. My brother doesn't pirate anything anymore because he has a real job and a stable income. The same is true for most of the people I know 25+.

What Serpico said is the future. You think you pay a lot for your internet right now? Wait until you pay even more for a service that is severely restricted and you need to pay more for every time you check information up, for every file or video you access, etc.

Do you honestly think they WON'T abuse their power once they put their laws into place?
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 23 2012 02:02 GMT
#147
New laws and shutting down illegal, lying file sharing sites is completely different. I'm 100% against SOPA and PIPA, but I have no problem with MU getting what was coming. Even if I watch shows there, I don't feel entitled to them if the site goes down.
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Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
January 23 2012 02:03 GMT
#148
This is sad. They are taking away our freedom from us.
I am sure as we are reading this "freedom fighters" are finding ways to make information free.
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
January 23 2012 02:04 GMT
#149
On January 23 2012 11:02 Jibba wrote:
New laws and shutting down illegal, lying file sharing sites is completely different. I'm 100% against SOPA and PIPA, but I have no problem with MU getting what was coming. Even if I watch shows there, I don't feel entitled to them if the site goes down.


Nor do I. It's a minor inconvenience.

But for the people in charge, it's related. It's the same "fight" for them. Shutting down file sharing sites is one part, but if they could, starting tomorrow both SOPA and PIPA and other similar bills would enter in effect.
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 02:05:07
January 23 2012 02:04 GMT
#150
On January 23 2012 11:02 Jibba wrote:
New laws and shutting down illegal, lying file sharing sites is completely different. I'm 100% against SOPA and PIPA, but I have no problem with MU getting what was coming. Even if I watch shows there, I don't feel entitled to them if the site goes down.


But wouldn't you rather stuff free? Like.. I spent 50$ on music the other day.. I coulda donated it to cancer research had the music been free..

I think don't feel the internet should be censored.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
January 23 2012 02:05 GMT
#151
You can't kill p2p, and TPB is hosted well away from the US, and has offline backups of it's back-end, even if their server's were physically blown up, all they need to do get it back online is install their backend to a new server, and then link it to their database (which is hosted on a separate and redundant server platform).

Basically, the FBI can scare a few people, and piss a ton of other people off. The amount of people who are scared by this is a lot smaller than the number of people who are pissed off. We all know what happens when you piss off the interwebs, they'll do whatever it takes to get it's way.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
January 23 2012 02:06 GMT
#152
On January 23 2012 11:04 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 11:02 Jibba wrote:
New laws and shutting down illegal, lying file sharing sites is completely different. I'm 100% against SOPA and PIPA, but I have no problem with MU getting what was coming. Even if I watch shows there, I don't feel entitled to them if the site goes down.


But wouldn't you rather stuff free? Like.. I spent 50$ on music the other day.. I coulda donated it to cancer research had the music been free..

I think don't feel the internet should be censored.


You could have just donated it to cancer out of the goodness of your heart...

why should music be free? someone put effort into making it.
Push 2 Harder
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 02:08:35
January 23 2012 02:07 GMT
#153
On January 23 2012 11:06 Bigtony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 11:04 NuKedUFirst wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:02 Jibba wrote:
New laws and shutting down illegal, lying file sharing sites is completely different. I'm 100% against SOPA and PIPA, but I have no problem with MU getting what was coming. Even if I watch shows there, I don't feel entitled to them if the site goes down.


But wouldn't you rather stuff free? Like.. I spent 50$ on music the other day.. I coulda donated it to cancer research had the music been free..

I think don't feel the internet should be censored.


You could have just donated it to cancer out of the goodness of your heart...

why should music be free? someone put effort into making it.


I never said it "should be" I said I would rather it free. It's the record labels making most of the cash off of the CDs regardless.
I have bills to pay, etc. I can't throw away money. but say if I had extra money with nothing to purchase (music in this example) then I would be more willing to donate, etc.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
January 23 2012 02:10 GMT
#154
On January 23 2012 11:07 NuKedUFirst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 11:06 Bigtony wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:04 NuKedUFirst wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:02 Jibba wrote:
New laws and shutting down illegal, lying file sharing sites is completely different. I'm 100% against SOPA and PIPA, but I have no problem with MU getting what was coming. Even if I watch shows there, I don't feel entitled to them if the site goes down.


But wouldn't you rather stuff free? Like.. I spent 50$ on music the other day.. I coulda donated it to cancer research had the music been free..

I think don't feel the internet should be censored.


You could have just donated it to cancer out of the goodness of your heart...

why should music be free? someone put effort into making it.


I never said it "should be" I said I would rather it free. It's the record labels making most of the cash off of the CDs regardless.
I have bills to pay, etc. I can't throw away money. but say if I had extra money with nothing to purchase (music in this example) then I would be more willing to donate, etc.


You could just go without music. There's no rule out there that says you absolutely need everything you want. You're not entitled to having the music at all, much less cheaper music.

Relevant comic: http://xkcd.com/871/
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
January 23 2012 02:10 GMT
#155
On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote:
I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch.


What about my daily dose of korean race queens!
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 23 2012 02:12 GMT
#156
Looks like a ton of mediafire links are down. Was looking for a song and kept getting a "this file has been deleted" from every mediafire link and I usually never see that message from mediafire.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
January 23 2012 02:13 GMT
#157
On January 23 2012 11:02 Jibba wrote:
New laws and shutting down illegal, lying file sharing sites is completely different. I'm 100% against SOPA and PIPA, but I have no problem with MU getting what was coming. Even if I watch shows there, I don't feel entitled to them if the site goes down.

If the owners of MU were trying to sell pirated material for money that is COMPLETELY wrong and unacceptable. For instance in china they sell bootleg CDs which takes real cash away from artists because people feel like they've bought something and done their deed in paying for a product when in reality they got screwed (or they know anyways). I HATE people that pirate and sell that product for their own gain, it's like plagiarism of the worst kind because you take profit for yourself you had no right to. If you want to pirate stuff, fine, but dont take away a real sale by selling that copy to someone else. It means that person will NEVER buy a legit copy 99.9999% of the time.

Sorry, had to rant. I draw a fine line between pirating and selling bootlegged copies.
WOPR
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada145 Posts
January 23 2012 02:14 GMT
#158
Next thing u know is .. it will be illegal to borrow a dvd from my neighbor.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ---Aristotle
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 23 2012 02:16 GMT
#159
On January 23 2012 11:10 Zeke50100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 11:07 NuKedUFirst wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:06 Bigtony wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:04 NuKedUFirst wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:02 Jibba wrote:
New laws and shutting down illegal, lying file sharing sites is completely different. I'm 100% against SOPA and PIPA, but I have no problem with MU getting what was coming. Even if I watch shows there, I don't feel entitled to them if the site goes down.


But wouldn't you rather stuff free? Like.. I spent 50$ on music the other day.. I coulda donated it to cancer research had the music been free..

I think don't feel the internet should be censored.


You could have just donated it to cancer out of the goodness of your heart...

why should music be free? someone put effort into making it.


I never said it "should be" I said I would rather it free. It's the record labels making most of the cash off of the CDs regardless.
I have bills to pay, etc. I can't throw away money. but say if I had extra money with nothing to purchase (music in this example) then I would be more willing to donate, etc.


You could just go without music. There's no rule out there that says you absolutely need everything you want. You're not entitled to having the music at all, much less cheaper music.

Relevant comic: http://xkcd.com/871/

Not to mention Pandora and YouTube.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 23 2012 02:16 GMT
#160
On January 23 2012 11:12 BlackJack wrote:
Looks like a ton of mediafire links are down. Was looking for a song and kept getting a "this file has been deleted" from every mediafire link and I usually never see that message from mediafire.

it's seemed to me that mf is usually pretty diligent about taking down links to more popular copyrighted material, but thats just my experience
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