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On January 23 2012 10:24 Moonwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 10:13 Jibba wrote:
So the previous thread had a bunch of people whining that Megaupload had a legitimate function of personal file storage, and Filesonic has decided that they will only enable personal file storage and you're whining about that too. I wonder why...
Nothing but a bunch of greedy cretins. The ridiculous sense of entitlement is palpable. Is piracy one of the uses of cyber lockers? Sure, but you seem to claim that it's the only reason people are pissed off that they are shutting down file sharing, which is crap. Sharing large files between many people is cumbersome without sites like megaupload or mediafire giving that service.
Horse shit. The number of legitimate users has magically skyrocketed in the last 2 days, yet when the FBI checks the actual server logs, $5 says the vast majority of bandwidth was used for illegal file sharing. On top of that, you can still use Filesonic for all of those legitimate purposes you're talking about, yet the people in this thread don't seem happy about that.
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This sucks for all the people who use file sharing for legitimate purposes.
On January 23 2012 10:26 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 10:24 Moonwrath wrote:On January 23 2012 10:13 Jibba wrote:
So the previous thread had a bunch of people whining that Megaupload had a legitimate function of personal file storage, and Filesonic has decided that they will only enable personal file storage and you're whining about that too. I wonder why...
Nothing but a bunch of greedy cretins. The ridiculous sense of entitlement is palpable. Is piracy one of the uses of cyber lockers? Sure, but you seem to claim that it's the only reason people are pissed off that they are shutting down file sharing, which is crap. Sharing large files between many people is cumbersome without sites like megaupload or mediafire giving that service. Horse shit. The number of legitimate users has magically skyrocketed in the last 2 days, yet when the FBI checks the actual server logs, $5 says the vast majority of bandwidth was used for illegal file sharing. On top of that, you can still use Filesonic for all of those legitimate purposes you're talking about, yet the people in this thread don't seem happy about that.
How is "retrieving files that only you have uploaded" any kind of file sharing? It is more just a way to store files for yourself with no way to let someone else download them.
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On January 23 2012 10:26 Yergidy wrote:
This sucks for all the people who use file sharing for legitimate purposes.
WHY? You can still use FS for legitimate storage purposes.
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The US should just legislate that no computer shall have the ability to duplicate any file and get it over with. Everything short of that is just typical "War on ______ " waste of time and money.
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On January 23 2012 10:27 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 10:26 Yergidy wrote:
This sucks for all the people who use file sharing for legitimate purposes. WHY? You can still use FS for legitimate storage purposes.
No you can't. They stopped the file sharing. What don't you understand? You think all file sharing is piracy. Nobody was whining about the legit uses of file sharing before because it wasn't being taken away from them, that's why you see people bitching right now.
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On January 23 2012 10:28 Dental Floss wrote:
The US should just legislate that no computer shall have the ability to duplicate any file and get it over with. Everything short of that is just typical "War on ______ " waste of time and money.
No, that would be fucking retarded.
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I really hope MediaFire doesn't go down. I haven't seen much illegal activity over there (most people who host illegal stuff use stuff like FileSonic, MU, RS, etc. to make a penny once in a while), and I actually use it for archiving a ton of my stuff (mainly my coding stuff, since I'm too lazy to use Git and whatnot). It's pretty much my Plan B if I can't use Gmail to send files (which is normally all the time, but I can't always do it).
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On January 23 2012 08:58 Soleron wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 08:28 nodnod wrote:
Of course Filesonic decided to shut down its file sharing services after the arrest of Kim Dotcom (a founder of Megaupload). I mean if you knew you've been doing something illegal and if you knew the authority just arrested someone who's been doing the same thing, why wouldn't you try to lay low and/or destroy the evidence. False. File sharing sites should qualify for safe harbour in the US. If infringing files are uploaded, only the uploader is liable. Megaupload screwed up by acknowledging they knew about specific pirated content in leaked emails. If Filesonic didn't do this they should be legal. Otherwise Youtube would be shut down too.
"There are four essential elements to a charge of criminal copyright infringement. In order to sustain a conviction under section 506(a), the government must demonstrate: (1) that a valid copyright; (2) was infringed by the defendant; (3) willfully; and (4) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain."
Notice Megaupload was accused, and rightfully so, to have designed their site with the sole purpose of distributing IP content AND had some form of financial gain out of it. Filesonic risks the same.
Anti-Piracy legislation in it's current form is actually quite permissive, it's greed that gets people busted.
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On January 23 2012 10:31 Moonwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 10:27 Jibba wrote:On January 23 2012 10:26 Yergidy wrote:
This sucks for all the people who use file sharing for legitimate purposes. WHY? You can still use FS for legitimate storage purposes. No you can't. They stopped the file sharing. What don't you understand? You think all file sharing is piracy. Nobody was whining about the legit uses of file sharing before because it wasn't being taken away from them, that's why you see people bitching right now.
You really don't realize how you can share a file with another person on FS now?
It's incredibly easy to do.
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On January 23 2012 10:26 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 10:24 Moonwrath wrote:On January 23 2012 10:13 Jibba wrote:
So the previous thread had a bunch of people whining that Megaupload had a legitimate function of personal file storage, and Filesonic has decided that they will only enable personal file storage and you're whining about that too. I wonder why...
Nothing but a bunch of greedy cretins. The ridiculous sense of entitlement is palpable. Is piracy one of the uses of cyber lockers? Sure, but you seem to claim that it's the only reason people are pissed off that they are shutting down file sharing, which is crap. Sharing large files between many people is cumbersome without sites like megaupload or mediafire giving that service. Horse shit. The number of legitimate users has magically skyrocketed in the last 2 days, yet when the FBI checks the actual server logs, $5 says the vast majority of bandwidth was used for illegal file sharing. On top of that, you can still use Filesonic for all of those legitimate purposes you're talking about, yet the people in this thread don't seem happy about that.
As much as I'm against the government taking away internet freedoms, I have to agree here. Back in my day if you wanted to send over a large file (one that's too large to email) you would send it thru msn messenger or something, or if you knew the person burn it onto a cd and give it to them
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wow first megaupload, and now this....all BEFORE sopa and pipa are passed
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On January 23 2012 10:35 Br3ezy wrote:
wow first megaupload, and now this....all BEFORE sopa and pipa are passed
To be honest, there's nothing too bad about losing a few overused file-sharing sites that intentionally limited download speeds and forced a wait time when there were much better alternatives. I hope RapidShare goes, if anything, because I think it's universally accepted that RapidShare is a pain (except for those making money from it) >.<
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On January 23 2012 10:35 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 10:26 Jibba wrote:On January 23 2012 10:24 Moonwrath wrote:On January 23 2012 10:13 Jibba wrote:
So the previous thread had a bunch of people whining that Megaupload had a legitimate function of personal file storage, and Filesonic has decided that they will only enable personal file storage and you're whining about that too. I wonder why...
Nothing but a bunch of greedy cretins. The ridiculous sense of entitlement is palpable. Is piracy one of the uses of cyber lockers? Sure, but you seem to claim that it's the only reason people are pissed off that they are shutting down file sharing, which is crap. Sharing large files between many people is cumbersome without sites like megaupload or mediafire giving that service. Horse shit. The number of legitimate users has magically skyrocketed in the last 2 days, yet when the FBI checks the actual server logs, $5 says the vast majority of bandwidth was used for illegal file sharing. On top of that, you can still use Filesonic for all of those legitimate purposes you're talking about, yet the people in this thread don't seem happy about that. As much as I'm against the government taking away internet freedoms, I have to agree here. Back in my day if you wanted to send over a large file (one that's too large to email) you would send it thru msn messenger or something, or if you knew the person burn it onto a cd and give it to them
Seriously. It's still incredibly easy to transfer files from one person to another. The only thing that's getting harder is mass distribution.
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On January 23 2012 10:26 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 10:24 Moonwrath wrote:On January 23 2012 10:13 Jibba wrote:
So the previous thread had a bunch of people whining that Megaupload had a legitimate function of personal file storage, and Filesonic has decided that they will only enable personal file storage and you're whining about that too. I wonder why...
Nothing but a bunch of greedy cretins. The ridiculous sense of entitlement is palpable. Is piracy one of the uses of cyber lockers? Sure, but you seem to claim that it's the only reason people are pissed off that they are shutting down file sharing, which is crap. Sharing large files between many people is cumbersome without sites like megaupload or mediafire giving that service. Horse shit. The number of legitimate users has magically skyrocketed in the last 2 days, yet when the FBI checks the actual server logs, $5 says the vast majority of bandwidth was used for illegal file sharing. On top of that, you can still use Filesonic for all of those legitimate purposes you're talking about, yet the people in this thread don't seem happy about that.
I'm not using these sites for legitimate purposes (barely use them either way except for megavideo for anime and shows) so I can't comment on that exactly.
What I'm worried about is the timing with SOPA. It seems clear that this is being done to piss people off. I don't like where it's heading. More bills are being shoved down people's throats (and other governments if that article about Spain/USA is true) and it seems like they are trying to strongarm their will into law when it's clear people don't want to accept these bills.
The internet is the only place I like in the world, where I feel I have at least a bit of freedom. I don't want to lose that to some fucking old psychos who want to control my life even more. They've already fucked up the economy, the war on drugs, and pretty much everything they've touched (we have tons of wars and crime, education is poor in average, people are living in debt from the day they're born, etc).
I just want one fucking thing they leave alone to a lesser extent. As has been pointed out 100s of times, better systems would make people more eager to actually pay for things. Accessibility, price, etc. (like shows on TV being on the internet immediately after they played --- where as Netflix Canada has a bunch of old shows and movies and my family went through their entire list within a year for example). Make music a few cents per song, shows 25-50c per episode, etc. Put them online in HD quickly.
Even in gaming, we have companies like Blizzard milking their games (HotS vs DLC content --- triple the price of what it would be from any other company using DLC, and 5 times the development period).
Companies can't adapt to the internet so they are trying to make it a bland place where the online thing you can do is chat and send emails. If they were intelligent, they could make more than they ever would with TV and CDs.
Older politicians that know nothing about the internet are trying to pass bills that would radically change it for the worse because companies are paying them by the truck load.
So yes, I'm pissed when I see these sites getting closed. Not because I really use them, but because of what they are trying to accomplish in the long run.
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The Internet has never been free. You're losing access to the toys that no one cared about before. The mature response is "it was good while it lasted."
And of the people complaining about quality of content and distribution, how many of you pay for th HBO shows you watch?
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On January 23 2012 10:39 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 10:35 hunts wrote:On January 23 2012 10:26 Jibba wrote:On January 23 2012 10:24 Moonwrath wrote:On January 23 2012 10:13 Jibba wrote:
So the previous thread had a bunch of people whining that Megaupload had a legitimate function of personal file storage, and Filesonic has decided that they will only enable personal file storage and you're whining about that too. I wonder why...
Nothing but a bunch of greedy cretins. The ridiculous sense of entitlement is palpable. Is piracy one of the uses of cyber lockers? Sure, but you seem to claim that it's the only reason people are pissed off that they are shutting down file sharing, which is crap. Sharing large files between many people is cumbersome without sites like megaupload or mediafire giving that service. Horse shit. The number of legitimate users has magically skyrocketed in the last 2 days, yet when the FBI checks the actual server logs, $5 says the vast majority of bandwidth was used for illegal file sharing. On top of that, you can still use Filesonic for all of those legitimate purposes you're talking about, yet the people in this thread don't seem happy about that. As much as I'm against the government taking away internet freedoms, I have to agree here. Back in my day if you wanted to send over a large file (one that's too large to email) you would send it thru msn messenger or something, or if you knew the person burn it onto a cd and give it to them Seriously. It's still incredibly easy to transfer files from one person to another. The only thing that's getting harder is mass distribution.
Yup. Now if you want to share files between people you know in person it's such a joke, there are thumb drives big enough for almost anything you would want to share! There is something like drop box, me and some friends shared plenty of replays that way quite easily. Or hell, use one of those uploading sites for personal storage, and give your info to the person you want to share with. This is of course assuming you want to share files with friends/people you trust, and not the whole world.
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On January 23 2012 10:32 B-Wong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 10:28 Dental Floss wrote:
The US should just legislate that no computer shall have the ability to duplicate any file and get it over with. Everything short of that is just typical "War on ______ " waste of time and money. No, that would be fucking retarded.
Nope its reality. You get to choose one of the following: Allow people to copy files or stop pirating forever. There is literally no middle ground.
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Guess that's it for FS...
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On January 23 2012 10:46 Jibba wrote:
The Internet has never been free. You're losing access to the toys that no one cared about before. The mature response is "it was good while it lasted."
And of the people complaining about quality of content and distribution, how many of you pay for th HBO shows you watch?
I already pay for my internet connection.
At this rate, in a few years, I'll simply cut my internet connection. There's no point in having it if everything is restricted.
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