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lithium3n
Profile Joined May 2011
United States74 Posts
January 24 2012 00:45 GMT
#421
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Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
January 24 2012 00:58 GMT
#422
On January 24 2012 09:45 lithium3n wrote:
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Or you could press "Menu" and instantly go to the menu. I haven't seen a movie for at least 5 years that actually put trailers on the DVD without any bypass method. Maybe in theaters, but DVDs aren't so terrible as the image says.
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
January 24 2012 01:16 GMT
#423
On January 24 2012 08:29 Shifft wrote:
If the US wants to stop US citizens from pirating music they could just institute country-wide IP blocking for the offending sites...but then too many people would compare them to China for their liking.


Yeah.. not far off as is. Though it must be said that this is not a "omg you Americans" thing. Politicians over there are fairly out of touch with their voters, but then that does seem to come with the territory these days. Follow the money.

The problem with blocking measures like ip blocks is that they aren't really feasible without some friendly fire. Plus you'd either not only have to find a way to make the list that's accurate and blocks the right targets (and just the right targets) but also to keep it up to date as offenders and legitimate businesses move around. Do we just trust big content to provide such a record? Do we want to start looking at everyone's internet traffic, all the time, as some proposals suggest, to determine who's a baddy? What do we and don't we like anyway? It's a slippery slope.

The alternative would be dns filtering, also proposed, but then you'd start seriously breaking how everyone everywhere gets to sites, concerns about the trust model aside.

The problem with the technology is that it's supposed to connect everything, that's it's purpose. And if you can find ways to throw up blockades with it, others can find ways around those with it. It can never offer a perfect solution, not as long as it's also open anyway. That's why things like this will just never kill piracy.
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Laughing
Profile Joined January 2011
United States44 Posts
January 24 2012 02:25 GMT
#424
I'm hesitant to say these file lockers going down will actually stall piracy - while indeed it will cripple piracy in the short-term people will just use more underground methods to get files, e.g. irc.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
January 24 2012 02:32 GMT
#425
Well, bands concerts will go down, mp3 on itunes will go up, netflix will make money, artists will lose and overall I think people will buy LESS stuff since they wont know about it ...
tehneXus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia38 Posts
January 24 2012 02:40 GMT
#426
Piratebay is based in sweden, so it cant go down due to american laws
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noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
January 24 2012 02:42 GMT
#427
On January 24 2012 11:40 tehneXus wrote:
Piratebay is based in sweden, so it cant go down due to american laws


surprise surprise, megaupload was on new zeland and hk and it did go down with american laws
topoulo
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
January 24 2012 02:47 GMT
#428
You should understand that this has nothing to do with piracy

Its an effort to control the internet and then control the news flow thus control the population like they did years after years by sensoring the tv and radio news.

with internet they cant and is a desperate attemt to do it .

Fyi the so called copyrighted laws have been the very same since 1500 , heck the world have progress till then but not the laws.

For the record the same companies , that are behind sopa now , years ago and when the rights for camera and such were all patend under bells ? name i think they moved to california to avoid the search authorities so look whos f@!$ing talking now.

Get your facts str8 and whoever lives in u.s protest about it and dont vote whoever support this .

Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
January 24 2012 02:48 GMT
#429
FUCK! I have a filesonic account! What should I do??? I'M SO SAD!!!!!!!!!
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
January 24 2012 02:50 GMT
#430
On January 24 2012 11:48 Clazziquai10 wrote:
FUCK! I have a filesonic account! What should I do??? I'M SO SAD!!!!!!!!!

a probably fruitless method, but try to do a chargeback on your credit card. you can argue for services not rendered or whatever when you reach the credit card rep. that is if you paid with a CC. paypal disputes tend to be a pain in the ass from experience.
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 24 2012 02:52 GMT
#431
On January 24 2012 11:42 noD wrote:
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On January 24 2012 11:40 tehneXus wrote:
Piratebay is based in sweden, so it cant go down due to american laws


surprise surprise, megaupload was on new zeland and hk and it did go down with american laws

iirc the servers were in america so they had jurisdiction. not sure if thats the same for tpb
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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
January 24 2012 02:52 GMT
#432
wow all of them are shutting down....
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
January 24 2012 11:16 GMT
#433
Why don't they shut down linking sites instead like http://www.rlslog.net/
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 24 2012 11:23 GMT
#434
On January 24 2012 20:16 T.O.P. wrote:
Why don't they shut down linking sites instead like http://www.rlslog.net/

Cause those will keep popping up anyway...
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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 24 2012 11:31 GMT
#435
On January 24 2012 09:45 lithium3n wrote:
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While the sentiment is half there, the bottom line is that pirating offers a similar or better service than most (movie) distributors these days. It's not really about the ads or warnings, but the ability to obtain the material. For a movie, it is a 3p0 minute ordeal to shop directly through comparison, put in payment information, and download. Meanwhile, it takes me just 10 minutes to Google and download a movie "free."

To be fair, Steam and music in general have become very competitive with piracy. Multiplayer and updates with steam, and huge searchable databases of sample, one-click, and/or licensable music. Movies still lag far behind though.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 24 2012 11:34 GMT
#436
Saw it coming...

I was hoping it wouldn't.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 24 2012 18:54 GMT
#437
On January 24 2012 20:16 T.O.P. wrote:
Why don't they shut down linking sites instead like http://www.rlslog.net/

Because they are an extreme grey area although they clearly are only there for piracy they don't really host any pirating material at most they give guides to do so, you get into censorship problems if you do that. Great thing to authorities is that people running megaupload were incompetent enough to get caught doing other things then just running a site that is popular with pirates.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
January 24 2012 18:59 GMT
#438
For years and years people thumbed their nose at the Man, laughed at the Man, said the Man couldn't stop them, all that jock-grabbing nonsense.

Now the Man is getting serious, and people act like they just got hit by a truck.

How could people not see this coming?
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 24 2012 19:10 GMT
#439
On January 25 2012 03:59 DeepElemBlues wrote:
For years and years people thumbed their nose at the Man, laughed at the Man, said the Man couldn't stop them, all that jock-grabbing nonsense.

Now the Man is getting serious, and people act like they just got hit by a truck.

How could people not see this coming?


I wondered why it took so long. The site clearly had no other intent that to allow people to share illegally obtained content. No search feature? People who act like these sorts of services did nothing wrong are crazy. Its like a landlord who knowingly rents an apartment to drug dealers and then harasses the police they attempt to make arrests. After you do that for a while and the police gather enough evidence that the landlord is fully aware of the drug sales, they charge him as an accessory. He can't say "I was just renting the apartment. I don't know where the rent comes from. What they do there is not my problem. Sure I chased the police away and told them never to come back without a warrent. What is wrong with that? They are my tenants."

At a point you are protecting the illegal activity for your own gain. You should be arrested for that.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 19:21:18
January 24 2012 19:18 GMT
#440
On January 24 2012 07:46 MisterD wrote:
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On January 24 2012 07:40 Logo wrote:
Ah yeah, that's accurate then, but still I think the idea of the person you quoted is that they want to stop the US from pushing their laws/interests on other countries.

is the US trying to push other countries to adopt their laws? if so, i've never heard of that. The cooperations that suggest these laws might be lobbying in countries all over the world, but the US government doesn't promote those i think? I don't think the us government is doing anything to promote their copyright laws, like offering trade benefits or threatening with embargos or even war? It's just lobbying companies that spread that stuff i think.

So really going after the US government is not quite the best way to combat it. Sure it might help cause lobbying apparently works best in the US and many states maybe like to follow US examples, so going against the US government might slow things down. But to really fight it and stop it, that probably won't help all that much.


http://boingboing.net/2012/01/06/leaked-memo-usa-blackmailed-s.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement

Also for reference people should keep in mind the people complaining about pirates are the same people who claim that movies like Return of the Jedi and Harry Potter are not profitable:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100708/02510310122.shtml
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110912/13500315912/hollywood-accounting-darth-vader-not-getting-paid-because-return-jedi-still-isnt-profitable.shtml

Not as an excuse to engage in piracy, but I point it out as a reason that MAYBE you shouldn't be listening to what these companies claim as truths.
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