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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 19:14:39
January 23 2012 19:14 GMT
#381

On January 24 2012 03:28 musai wrote:
Damn, fileserve is down now too, and I just paid for it =.=;


Did u use paypal ? I heard you can get a reimbursement.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 19:16:56
January 23 2012 19:16 GMT
#382
On January 24 2012 04:11 darkcloud8282 wrote:
So are these "file sharing" services going to remain profitable with all these limitations to their services? If you can't share files with others, then what's the point of using their service..

dropbox is so useful, that's a legit file sharing service, most of the services that are now trying to cover their asses had programs rewarding people for putting up bigger files and bringing people in to download them, which really make it look like they are structured for downloading tv shows games and movies. So it's not like legit file sharing is dead.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 19:19:06
January 23 2012 19:17 GMT
#383
On January 24 2012 03:59 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 03:41 ZodaSoda wrote:
One Word: Torrents


i got a better word
income
go get some/more....

it doesn't have much to do with money. unless you are 15y old. It's about availability. It simply isn't there even if i wanted to buy it. Besides i don't want to watch it through something as archaic as cable TV a year or 2 after it came out, no thx.

but blaming piracy on money is easier right? i'm sure that'll solve the problem.
Sackings
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada457 Posts
January 23 2012 19:17 GMT
#384
Heres the situation where i live in canada:

Blockbuster, Rogers Video all shutdown (no physical rental stores anymore)

Netflix has shit for selection (the library is pathetic)

VOD service from cable providers is shit as well (overpriced, library is too small)

So what are people supposed to do? Even my brother and sister who do not torrent and are not tech savvy complain about the lack of selection when it comes to renting stuff. If Netflix was half decent i would have no problem giving them my money but as it stands i will continue to torrent all my tv and movies.
naniwa fighting!!!
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
January 23 2012 19:19 GMT
#385
How am I going to get my K-drama now :'(
NaDa <3, MMA <3, Bisu <3,
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
January 23 2012 19:19 GMT
#386
VPN providers owners are opening the champagne atm They're going to be rich very quickly.
Competent
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
January 23 2012 19:20 GMT
#387
I see a lot of complaining from people that stinks of entitlement. I do have to make a point clear that a majority of the files that were on these sites were files that are illegal to download. Movies, MP3, Games, etc... Now that something is finally being done about people are giving me the impression that they really think what they were doing was somehow, um, right?

nb4 government had no right
nb4 constitution
nb4 won't help sales
nb4 ppl used it for legit reasons
nb4 nb4

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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 05:11:53
January 23 2012 19:20 GMT
#388
I was planning to sleep early until I clicked on TL to "browse for a few minutes before sleeping." 2 hours later, I'm still doing my homework after procrastinating for so long, reminded of how I've had such a close shave, having just got a really rare/old file which is impossible to torrent now from FS.

Thank you TL. 3:20 am and I just got out my beer.

On January 23 2012 11:20 Goragoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 11:10 Zeke50100 wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:07 NuKedUFirst wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:06 Bigtony wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:04 NuKedUFirst wrote:
On January 23 2012 11:02 Jibba wrote:
New laws and shutting down illegal, lying file sharing sites is completely different. I'm 100% against SOPA and PIPA, but I have no problem with MU getting what was coming. Even if I watch shows there, I don't feel entitled to them if the site goes down.


But wouldn't you rather stuff free? Like.. I spent 50$ on music the other day.. I coulda donated it to cancer research had the music been free..

I think don't feel the internet should be censored.


You could have just donated it to cancer out of the goodness of your heart...

why should music be free? someone put effort into making it.


I never said it "should be" I said I would rather it free. It's the record labels making most of the cash off of the CDs regardless.
I have bills to pay, etc. I can't throw away money. but say if I had extra money with nothing to purchase (music in this example) then I would be more willing to donate, etc.


You could just go without music. There's no rule out there that says you absolutely need everything you want. You're not entitled to having the music at all, much less cheaper music.

Relevant comic: http://xkcd.com/871/

The other side of that coin is that the artists/media companies are not entitled to a massive profit either. It takes zero effort to make a copy, and a lot of effort to create the original. That's the problem. Once the original has been paid for there is no reason for the creator to earn more. A reasonable term for copyright these days would probably be 5 years, maybe less, because if you haven't turned a profit by then you probably never will. Instead we get perpetual copyright extensions that are completely perverting the original purpose of copyright (provide incentive to create).

It's a complex issue and anyone who pretends it isn't is either lying or an idiot.


Very true. I've been wondering for very long why are people still charging so much for old records which were made by people who are already dead. Having said that, 5 years is an unreasonably short period of time for a musician... I was thinking more in terms of 3 years after his/her death, because it takes a lot of time for musicians to get their name out.
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
January 23 2012 19:21 GMT
#389
On January 24 2012 04:19 gds wrote:
VPN providers owners are opening the champagne atm They're going to be rich very quickly.

shit with my kind of work (web developer) it would take me an hour to setup one. you're giving me ideas
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 19:23:07
January 23 2012 19:22 GMT
#390
On January 24 2012 04:17 Sackings wrote:
Heres the situation where i live in canada:

Blockbuster, Rogers Video all shutdown (no physical rental stores anymore)

Netflix has shit for selection (the library is pathetic)

VOD service from cable providers is shit as well (overpriced, library is too small)

So what are people supposed to do? Even my brother and sister who do not torrent and are not tech savvy complain about the lack of selection when it comes to renting stuff. If Netflix was half decent i would have no problem giving them my money but as it stands i will continue to torrent all my tv and movies.


Dont be too sad, the best legal deal here is 5euros to rent a 3 years old movie VOD for 48h (drm), divx quality.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 19:24:43
January 23 2012 19:23 GMT
#391
On January 24 2012 04:20 Competent wrote:
I see a lot of complaining from people that stinks of entitlement. I do have to make a point clear that a majority of the files that were on these sites were files that are illegal to download. Movies, MP3, Games, etc... Now that something is finally being done about people are giving me the impression that they really think what they were doing was somehow, um, right?

nb4 government had no right
nb4 constitution
nb4 won't help sales
nb4 ppl used it for legit reasons
nb4 nb4


ya something is being done, and it will SOLVE nothing!

Keep throwing money at the problem, that ought to fix it, instead of using your head to fix the problem. Or if you don't have a head read 10 posts above yours.

your name would be more fitting if it was incompetent.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 19:27:53
January 23 2012 19:26 GMT
#392
On January 24 2012 04:17 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 03:59 semantics wrote:
On January 24 2012 03:41 ZodaSoda wrote:
One Word: Torrents


i got a better word
income
go get some/more....

it doesn't have much to do with money. unless you are 15y old. It's about availability. It simply isn't there even if i wanted to buy it. Besides i don't want to watch it through something as archaic as cable TV a year or 2 after it came out, no thx.

but blaming piracy on money is easier right? i'm sure that'll solve the problem.

Bull shit if it's about availability, tell me why you get 3 4 million downloading movies and games which are blockbuster kind of movies and games, which short of living in like the congo you can get pretty easily either online though a legit service or in a store. Hell i live on the west coast of the US, i know of 2 Japanese import stores 3 Filipino import stores(they are all pretty close to each other too lol so many Filipinos in my area), 1 Korean import store, 1 mesh of europe import store, you're telling me importing isn't a business outside of the US?. It about time and money, pirates just justify not trying with crap like that, sure maybe every other download is hard to get in their area but why are they downloading something that isn't to begin with it invalidates their so called "it's hard to get". That's just full of crap, it's about the cost of doing something.
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
January 23 2012 19:30 GMT
#393
On January 24 2012 04:04 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 03:49 danielrosca wrote:
On January 24 2012 03:15 Plansix wrote:
On January 23 2012 06:56 tnud wrote:
On January 23 2012 06:54 MR KING wrote:
On January 23 2012 06:51 Malgrif wrote:
Looks like pirating on the internet is soon becoming a thing of the past.


yeah right, lol.

Pirates isn't really affected by this move at all lol.

The real looser are those who actually used that service for distribution of large legal files.


I want to see the reasons for the arrests in for Megaupload and the charges. There is no question that this site had copyrighted information on it along with valid, legal files. The issue is going to be if the owners of the site knew about the illegal content and made no effort to remove it or stop people from uploading the content. If they did this and also took money from people to download those files quickly, they are in fact, profiting from pirated content.

It is not a question of if the legal content is there, it is if the owners of the site made any effort to stop pirated content from being uploaded and then charged people. They can't hide behind "I can't control what people upload". The Courts have ruled otherwise and they can control their own service.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=megaupload indictment pdf


Although slightly jerky, thanks for the link. They were charged by a grand jury, which is pretty time consuming. The main reason for the shut down is the fact that unregistered users can upload files, which are stored for 90 days, unless they are downloaded. Users are charged for faster downloads, not storage and every upload is offered to make a link for other people to download.

The whole thing makes a pretty strong case that Megauploads was only interesting making money providing illegal downloads to people.


Actually they're charged with offering incentives for uploads (to make a larger profit obvs), while using each upload to make it harder to take down materials.


22. When a file is being uploaded to Megaupload.com, the Conspiracy’s automated system calculates a unique identifier for the file (called a “MD5 hash”) that is generated using a mathematical algorithm. If, after the MD5 hash calculation, the system determines that the uploading file already exists on a server controlled by the Mega Conspiracy, Megaupload.com does not reproduce a second copy of the file on that server. Instead, the system provides a new and unique URL link to the new user that is pointed to the original file already present on the server. If there is more than one URL link to a file, then any attempt by the copyright holder to terminate access to the file using the Abuse Tool or other DMCA takedown request will fail because the additional access links will continue to be available.


Facilitating takedown requests is required to fall under the DMCA's safe harbor provisions.

Also apparently money laundering, which is just not very smart ><
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 19:41:09
January 23 2012 19:31 GMT
#394
On January 24 2012 04:26 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 04:17 Nizaris wrote:
On January 24 2012 03:59 semantics wrote:
On January 24 2012 03:41 ZodaSoda wrote:
One Word: Torrents


i got a better word
income
go get some/more....

it doesn't have much to do with money. unless you are 15y old. It's about availability. It simply isn't there even if i wanted to buy it. Besides i don't want to watch it through something as archaic as cable TV a year or 2 after it came out, no thx.

but blaming piracy on money is easier right? i'm sure that'll solve the problem.

Bull shit if it's about availability, tell me why you get 3 4 million downloading movies and games which are blockbuster kind of movies and games, which short of living in like the congo you can get pretty easily either online though a legit service or in a store. Hell i live on the west coast of the US, i know of 2 Japanese import stores 3 Filipino import stores(they are all pretty close to each other too lol so many Filipinos in my area), 1 Korean import store, 1 mesh of europe import store, you're telling me importing isn't a business outside of the US?. It about time and money, pirates just justify not trying with crap like that, sure maybe every other download is hard to get in their area but why are they downloading something that isn't to begin with it invalidates their so called "it's hard to get". That's just full of crap, it's about the cost of doing something.

ya i know me and most of the posters in this thread must be full of shit. that or it's you. read the last 2 pages.... outside of the US availability isn't there.

Look at music piracy.... itunes make millions even if mp3 are the easiest thing to download on the internet. music piracy is almost irrelevant and online sale are exploding. all that with outrageous 1$ per drm song prices. good thing i don't listen to pop. DJs make weekly shows for free.

Did you know that every1 does not lives on the west coast?
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 19:33:55
January 23 2012 19:32 GMT
#395
Those who watch anime streams and little UG animes surely have noticed this shit. Well this stuff is forcing me to pirate stuff now because there is no other way to watch my stuff..

e: Same with 50% of movies I watch.
as useful as teasalt
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
January 23 2012 19:34 GMT
#396
Crap, I hope nothing bad happens to mediafire :/
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TheLight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia410 Posts
January 23 2012 19:35 GMT
#397
Most shows in the US come to Australia months later if at all. Wish I could get Netflix or use the US iTunes store (happy to pay reasonable amounts) to get them immediatly but I can't.

There is simply no legit way of getting tv shows!

(I might have to do that Entropay > Paypal > Netflix trick sometime soon)
A marine walks into a bar and asks: Where's the counter?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 23 2012 19:36 GMT
#398
On January 24 2012 04:30 schimmetje wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 04:04 Plansix wrote:
On January 24 2012 03:49 danielrosca wrote:
On January 24 2012 03:15 Plansix wrote:
On January 23 2012 06:56 tnud wrote:
On January 23 2012 06:54 MR KING wrote:
On January 23 2012 06:51 Malgrif wrote:
Looks like pirating on the internet is soon becoming a thing of the past.


yeah right, lol.

Pirates isn't really affected by this move at all lol.

The real looser are those who actually used that service for distribution of large legal files.


I want to see the reasons for the arrests in for Megaupload and the charges. There is no question that this site had copyrighted information on it along with valid, legal files. The issue is going to be if the owners of the site knew about the illegal content and made no effort to remove it or stop people from uploading the content. If they did this and also took money from people to download those files quickly, they are in fact, profiting from pirated content.

It is not a question of if the legal content is there, it is if the owners of the site made any effort to stop pirated content from being uploaded and then charged people. They can't hide behind "I can't control what people upload". The Courts have ruled otherwise and they can control their own service.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=megaupload indictment pdf


Although slightly jerky, thanks for the link. They were charged by a grand jury, which is pretty time consuming. The main reason for the shut down is the fact that unregistered users can upload files, which are stored for 90 days, unless they are downloaded. Users are charged for faster downloads, not storage and every upload is offered to make a link for other people to download.

The whole thing makes a pretty strong case that Megauploads was only interesting making money providing illegal downloads to people.


Actually they're charged with offering incentives for uploads (to make a larger profit obvs), while using each upload to make it harder to take down materials.

Show nested quote +

22. When a file is being uploaded to Megaupload.com, the Conspiracy’s automated system calculates a unique identifier for the file (called a “MD5 hash”) that is generated using a mathematical algorithm. If, after the MD5 hash calculation, the system determines that the uploading file already exists on a server controlled by the Mega Conspiracy, Megaupload.com does not reproduce a second copy of the file on that server. Instead, the system provides a new and unique URL link to the new user that is pointed to the original file already present on the server. If there is more than one URL link to a file, then any attempt by the copyright holder to terminate access to the file using the Abuse Tool or other DMCA takedown request will fail because the additional access links will continue to be available.


Facilitating takedown requests is required to fall under the DMCA's safe harbor provisions.

Also apparently money laundering, which is just not very smart ><


Yeah that last part, not very smart. But wait, is anyone suprised that megauploads was up to shady stuff?
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 19:37:32
January 23 2012 19:36 GMT
#399
On January 24 2012 04:31 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 04:26 semantics wrote:
On January 24 2012 04:17 Nizaris wrote:
On January 24 2012 03:59 semantics wrote:
On January 24 2012 03:41 ZodaSoda wrote:
One Word: Torrents


i got a better word
income
go get some/more....

it doesn't have much to do with money. unless you are 15y old. It's about availability. It simply isn't there even if i wanted to buy it. Besides i don't want to watch it through something as archaic as cable TV a year or 2 after it came out, no thx.

but blaming piracy on money is easier right? i'm sure that'll solve the problem.

Bull shit if it's about availability, tell me why you get 3 4 million downloading movies and games which are blockbuster kind of movies and games, which short of living in like the congo you can get pretty easily either online though a legit service or in a store. Hell i live on the west coast of the US, i know of 2 Japanese import stores 3 Filipino import stores(they are all pretty close to each other too lol so many Filipinos in my area), 1 Korean import store, 1 mesh of europe import store, you're telling me importing isn't a business outside of the US?. It about time and money, pirates just justify not trying with crap like that, sure maybe every other download is hard to get in their area but why are they downloading something that isn't to begin with it invalidates their so called "it's hard to get". That's just full of crap, it's about the cost of doing something.

ya i know me and most of the posters in this thread must be full of shit. that or it's you. read the last 2 pages.... outside of the US availability isn't there.

Look at music piracy.... itunes make millions even if mp3 are the easiest thing to download on the internet. music piracy is almost irrelevant and online sale are exploding. all that with outrageous 1$ per song prices. good thing i don't listen to pop. DJs make weekly shows for free.

Did you know that every1 does not lives on the west coast?

Lol imports l2read
You want to see how hard people will jump though hoops look at the mechanical keyboard threads(i bet they would download their keyboard too if they could)
Bull shit go out and try some before going oh well i guess i'll just pirate it.
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
January 23 2012 19:39 GMT
#400
I'm so sad
Now I have to rely on Torrents for my porn - and torrents aren't always available. Other filesharing sites sucks (except Netload).

This is a major turning point in my internetporn hobby - and not for the good.
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