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On January 24 2012 01:55 terranu1 wrote:
The only real problem is with the random people who got sued for ridiculous amount of money because they downloaded songs from sharing sites.And this started happening years ago. I mean the only guarantee that tomorrow you won't be sued for downloading a movie/song software from torrents is because there are hundred of millions doing it and the chance of being you is so low. Suing uploading sites for hosting&sharing copyrighted material without permision is terrible for us who don't like to buy but it is legal. Authorities Monitoring your computer for downloading history is scary and outrageous .
you really shouldn't post uninformed garbage like this. random ppl get sued for SHARING (aka uploading) songs NOT DOWNLOADING. go look it up.
My only guarantee i won't be sued is: i don't live in the US. if you do tough luck i guess, start doing something about it?
Besides i know soon all my internet traffic will be highly encoded. it's only a matter of time. i wish them fun trying to decode every1's shit.
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The thing is, stopping piracy won't make sells go up.
People who are use to pirate movies and tv show will never just stop doing it to go buy everything legaly. That will never happen.
I damn know if i can't watch tv show or good movies on Internet, i will not buy DVD of them. It's just too expensive.
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On January 24 2012 02:04 Noocta wrote:
The thing is, stopping piracy won't make sells go up.
People who are use to pirate movies and tv show will never just stop doing it to go buy everything legaly. That will never happen.
I damn know if i can't watch tv show or good movies on Internet, i will not buy DVD of them. It's just too expensive.
Actually if the TV shows i watch were available at a REASONABLE PRICE at the same time they are aired in the US. I would probably just buy them. Money isn't even the issue for most people, availability is. Why would i wait 6months to a year to get shitty dubbed DVDs? Besides I don't want them stinking boxes taking up space and collecting dust, i need a Steam type thing where they keep a record of everything i bought and i can watch it anywhere i want, how many times i want.
Only thing i pirate these days are tv shows, movies aren't even worth it. i pirate maybe 3 a year with the current garbage they put out.
I don't pirate music, DJs are smart and stopped making CDs years ago. and most of the time just give their stuff online for free.
Games ? i only play multiplayer games. i did pirate Skyrim tho, because it's such a buggy game it shouldn't even be allowed to be released. And i am certainly not paying for an alpha version.
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Actually if the TV shows i watch were available at a REASONABLE PRICE at the same time they are aired in the US. Yes pls.
I used Megaupload to watch the entire Stargate SG-1 collection. Had there been a Steam-like service I would've used that.
Never pirated games though. Yeah some old ones for the Gameboy handhelds (most of which I own anyway and then it's not even pirating, I'd rather play on an emulator than my billion year old handheld).
Thank goodness downloading is legal in the Netherlands 
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What's really upsetting about this for myself is that I NEVER pirate anything. This is just becoming a serious hurdle to acquire legal software.
My government is getting out of control. To the rest of the world I'd just like to say, on the behalf of many in the U.S., is that we ARE upset and deeply concerned about our government. Unfortunately, it is very difficult for us to do anything about it. Our news media in this country is really biased and there are many who are so hopelessly ignorant , naive and dependent, that they will actually fight and support a system which is stripping them of their liberties.
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...this is getting out of control, god knows where this'll end...
...wait, I'm an atheist... regardless, I've yet to be personally affected by any of the shutdowns in any major way, but the future isn't looking too bright atm :/
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On January 24 2012 01:59 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 01:55 terranu1 wrote:
The only real problem is with the random people who got sued for ridiculous amount of money because they downloaded songs from sharing sites.And this started happening years ago. I mean the only guarantee that tomorrow you won't be sued for downloading a movie/song software from torrents is because there are hundred of millions doing it and the chance of being you is so low. Suing uploading sites for hosting&sharing copyrighted material without permision is terrible for us who don't like to buy but it is legal. Authorities Monitoring your computer for downloading history is scary and outrageous . you really shouldn't post uninformed garbage like this. random ppl get sued for SHARING (aka uploading) songs NOT DOWNLOADING. go look it up. My only guarantee i won't be sued is: i don't live in the US. if you do tough luck i guess, start doing something about it? Besides i know soon all my internet traffic will be highly encoded. it's only a matter of time. i wish them fun trying to decode every1's shit.
yes you're right ,uploading. Still there isn't much difference between illegal uploading and downloading. You're still stealing a product, just that uploaders are less and make an easier target.
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On January 24 2012 02:14 Reborn8u wrote:
What's really upsetting about this for myself is that I NEVER pirate anything. This is just becoming a serious hurdle to acquire legal software.
My government is getting out of control. To the rest of the world I'd just like to say, on the behalf of many in the U.S., is that we ARE upset and deeply concerned about our government. Unfortunately, it is very difficult for us to do anything about it. Our news media in this country is really biased and there are many who are so hopelessly ignorant , naive and dependent, that they will actually fight and support a system which is stripping them of their liberties.
it's not that hard to do something about it. Occupy Wallstreet was pretty epic and got worldwide mainstream media coverage. Go in the streets and start making noise. I would advice a gas mask, since your police don't care that much about human rights.
Unfortunatly I suspect you are the minority and most ppl (most notably christians,mormons and other religious nut) think the govt is doing a great job arresting them evil pirates.
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On January 24 2012 02:17 terranu1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 01:59 Nizaris wrote:On January 24 2012 01:55 terranu1 wrote:
The only real problem is with the random people who got sued for ridiculous amount of money because they downloaded songs from sharing sites.And this started happening years ago. I mean the only guarantee that tomorrow you won't be sued for downloading a movie/song software from torrents is because there are hundred of millions doing it and the chance of being you is so low. Suing uploading sites for hosting&sharing copyrighted material without permision is terrible for us who don't like to buy but it is legal. Authorities Monitoring your computer for downloading history is scary and outrageous . you really shouldn't post uninformed garbage like this. random ppl get sued for SHARING (aka uploading) songs NOT DOWNLOADING. go look it up. My only guarantee i won't be sued is: i don't live in the US. if you do tough luck i guess, start doing something about it? Besides i know soon all my internet traffic will be highly encoded. it's only a matter of time. i wish them fun trying to decode every1's shit. yes you're right ,uploading. Still there isn't much difference between illegal uploading and downloading. You're still stealing a product, just that uploaders are less and make an easier target.
actually there is a huge difference legally at least.
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I wonder how much they paid the members of the jury, this sounds fishy
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just because the journalist is an idiot and doesn't know the difference between sharing and downloading doesn't mean we should be idiots too and repeat the same garbage.
I know perfectly well who Jammie Thomas-Rasset is. And she got convicted for SHARING . next?
Jammie Thomas-Rasset has lost her re-retrial against the RIAA and is now ordered to pay $1.5 million for 24 songs she shared via Kazaa.
Real source: http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-wins-big-against-file-sharer-15m-for-24-songs-101104/
This must be the 4th time i've posted this on TL, it's funny because everytime some1 quickly googles for a case against downloading they always come up with some uninformed ignorant source about Thomas-Rasset.
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Stop arguing about downloading/sharing /uploading because laws are different in each country.
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On January 24 2012 02:19 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 02:14 Reborn8u wrote:
What's really upsetting about this for myself is that I NEVER pirate anything. This is just becoming a serious hurdle to acquire legal software.
My government is getting out of control. To the rest of the world I'd just like to say, on the behalf of many in the U.S., is that we ARE upset and deeply concerned about our government. Unfortunately, it is very difficult for us to do anything about it. Our news media in this country is really biased and there are many who are so hopelessly ignorant , naive and dependent, that they will actually fight and support a system which is stripping them of their liberties. it's not that hard to do something about it. Occupy Wallstreet was pretty epic and got worldwide mainstream media coverage. Go in the streets and start making noise. I would advice a gas mask, since your police don't care that much about human rights. Unfortunatly I suspect you are the minority and most ppl (most notably christians,mormons and other religious nut) think the govt is doing a great job arresting them evil pirates.
I agree with most of your points, but I would like to point out a few things. The occupy movement didn't accomplish anything notable and was barely covered in the US mainstream media. While this was going on there was 10x more coverage about the republican nominees for the presidential election which is still 10 months away.
When the occupy movement was covered in mainstream media, it was mostly a bunch of people on the news criticizing them, saying they were lazy people who don't want to work and basically decided to hang out in parks all day smoking pot and fighting with police. There were a some positive coverage, but many times more negative coverages.
Yes, our media is that screwed up and I suspect the same corporate monsters that are running our media also have substantial control over or governing in the U.S. Many people in the U.S. are simply good moral people who are denial that things could be this corrupt, biased, and greedy with respect to our Government and Media. So they believe the lies being fed to them by the media. I promise you that there are many more than you suspect who share my opinions, but our voices are overridden by the propaganda machines. Also, the state of our economy is such that 2 people trying to raise a family are typically working close to 40 hours a week each, get less then 2 weeks of vacation time a year, and still can barely afford to pay their bills and have massive debt. Slaves to the almighty dollar.
I'm only stating this so you understand the situation for many is such that they feel powerless against the juggernaut that is our ruling class. My greatest fear is that action will not be taken by the silent majority until more truth is brought into the light, and things are going to have to get much worse before people are ready to sacrifice what little they have to change things on behalf of future generations.
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Updated with the current sites which are down in OP. I want to emphasize that UploadBox is DELETING all their content come Jan. 30th. If you have anything on there make sure you retrieve it before that.
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On January 24 2012 02:26 Nizaris wrote:just because the journalist is an idiot and doesn't know the difference between sharing and downloading doesn't mean we should be idiots too and repeat the same garbage. I know perfectly well who Jammie Thomas-Rasset is. And she got convicted for SHARING . next? Show nested quote +Jammie Thomas-Rasset has lost her re-retrial against the RIAA and is now ordered to pay $1.5 million for 24 songs she shared via Kazaa. Real source: http://torrentfreak.com/riaa-wins-big-against-file-sharer-15m-for-24-songs-101104/This must be the 4th time i've posted this on TL, it's funny because everytime some1 quickly googles for a case against downloading they always come up with some uninformed ignorant source about Thomas-Rasset.
Sure it's called sharing but you are still making copies of material that is copyrighted, no?
For example Netflix buys each dvd it rents out. It doesn't buy one, copy it, and then "share" it with all their customers.
According to Wikipedia Thomas-Rasset owes $54,000 as the sum of her penalty was reduced. She shared 1,702 tracks but the plaintiffs only sought compensation for 24 of those tracks.
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On January 24 2012 01:58 Tennoji wrote:
I wonder what happens when all the people that are pirating now can't pirate any longer (as in, when almost everything has been shut down). They will have so much free time and a new enemy...
Lmao :D.
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Where am i going to steal stuffs 
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On January 24 2012 02:38 Reborn8u wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2012 02:19 Nizaris wrote:On January 24 2012 02:14 Reborn8u wrote:
What's really upsetting about this for myself is that I NEVER pirate anything. This is just becoming a serious hurdle to acquire legal software.
My government is getting out of control. To the rest of the world I'd just like to say, on the behalf of many in the U.S., is that we ARE upset and deeply concerned about our government. Unfortunately, it is very difficult for us to do anything about it. Our news media in this country is really biased and there are many who are so hopelessly ignorant , naive and dependent, that they will actually fight and support a system which is stripping them of their liberties. it's not that hard to do something about it. Occupy Wallstreet was pretty epic and got worldwide mainstream media coverage. Go in the streets and start making noise. I would advice a gas mask, since your police don't care that much about human rights. Unfortunatly I suspect you are the minority and most ppl (most notably christians,mormons and other religious nut) think the govt is doing a great job arresting them evil pirates. I agree with most of your points, but I would like to point out a few things. The occupy movement didn't accomplish anything notable and was barely covered in the US mainstream media. While this was going on there was 10x more coverage about the republican nominees for the presidential election which is still 10 months away. When the occupy movement was covered in mainstream media, it was mostly a bunch of people on the news criticizing them, saying they were lazy people who don't want to work and basically decided to hang out in parks all day smoking pot and fighting with police. There were a some positive coverage, but many times more negative coverages. Yes, our media is that screwed up and I suspect the same corporate monsters that are running our media also have substantial control over or governing in the U.S. Many people in the U.S. are simply good moral people who are denial that things could be this corrupt, biased, and greedy with respect to our Government and Media. So they believe the lies being fed to them by the media. I promise you that there are many more than you suspect who share my opinions, but our voices are overridden by the propaganda machines. Also, the state of our economy is such that 2 people trying to raise a family are typically working close to 40 hours a week each, get less then 2 weeks of vacation time a year, and still can barely afford to pay their bills and have massive debt. Slaves to the almighty dollar. I'm only stating this so you understand the situation for many is such that they feel powerless against the juggernaut that is our ruling class. My greatest fear is that action will not be taken by the silent majority until more truth is brought into the light, and things are going to have to get much worse before people are ready to sacrifice what little they have to change things on behalf of future generations.
Good Post
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