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Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 13:09:37
January 23 2012 13:08 GMT
#301


Then why did Filesonic shut down their file sharing service?

Also, it's in reality very hard to prove that one doesn't know about the illegal content on their server, and most importantly, if the plaintiff can prove/claim that Filesonic financially benefited from distribution of the illegal content then the site wouldn't be eligible for the safe harbour protection.


My guess: Because they thought they would go bankrupt if a court case came, despite the law being on their side.

It's not about "proving" they don't know. "Service providers" like them get guaranteed protection as long as they take down files when notified. Obviously they should keep track of ad revenue and refund anything that gets taken down, to not be on the financial benefit side.

Again, why is Youtube not liable when they put ads on videos with unlicensed copyrighted content?
Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
January 23 2012 13:15 GMT
#302
Youtube IS LIABLE, see the earlier youtube link provided where JeepersMedia explains how Youtube is able to "escape" w/o being sued (They are not, Youtube, is being sued by VIACOM in court).
Cauterize the area
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 13:20:45
January 23 2012 13:17 GMT
#303
Well, we kind of live in a time where everyone is used to get all their media for free. When I tell my friends that I still buy physical copies of albums their reaction generally is: "who the hell still pays for music/dvds?" Well, I do and I'm a dying breed.

Agreed, mediafire and the likes are useful to download albums before they're actually on the shelves, but when they're good, I go buy them on release day (case in point: Aborted's and Lamb of God's latest albums). When the music doesn't meet my (rather high) standard, I just delete it from my hard drive. No point in keeping music I won't listen to in the first place.

I know a lot of people, generally students, who've got 1-2TB hard drives full of illegal movies. The sole reason hard drives of that size exist is for people like that (and professional photographers and video editors, but those are few and far between. I personally struggle to use half of the 250GB hard disc in my laptop.

On the other hand, we've got cinemas getting away with charging €10-11 for a ticket...
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 14:21:58
January 23 2012 13:24 GMT
#304
So are they also gonna send my money back for the premium account? Since now they offer services that i'm not interested in, nor payed for...

Any1 tried to get a refund for their premium account?

//runs off checking to see if this is true//

edit: filed a paypal claim, doubt that will do anything tho
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
reisada
Profile Joined September 2010
183 Posts
January 23 2012 14:30 GMT
#305
Since my topic has been closed, ill share this here.... http://anonyupload.com/
dont know if its true or scam, but its good to know it exists
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 14:37:39
January 23 2012 14:37 GMT
#306
On January 23 2012 23:30 reisada wrote:
Since my topic has been closed, ill share this here.... http://anonyupload.com/
dont know if its true or scam, but its good to know it exists

Don't support crap like that tbh... for all you know it's just some guy laughing his ass off by all the donations he's getting.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 14:43:00
January 23 2012 14:41 GMT
#307
LOL are we gonna be forced to burn dvd and meet at night in a basement to exchange files? Let's go back to stone age.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10877 Posts
January 23 2012 14:46 GMT
#308
On January 23 2012 21:32 bLah. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 19:19 KainiT wrote:
This is becomming to get interesting.
I personally think that this is a fight only the pirates can win, since there will always be countries where they can host servers without getting in troubles with any laws and in some years the generation, that actually has experience with filesharing websites will run the world. So finally copyright on whatever can be digitized in general will be a thing of the past in two or three decades.
I hope you heard it here first;)


Thing is, they can host their servers on planet Mars, but you will still be accountable in your country for downloading something illegaly.
your ISPs can easily get all the information about what you've downloaded and if this is just a start, what if they pass laws that ISPs will have to report that information to authorities?
EU is also pretty rigid about copyright infrigment so people shouldn't be so neutral while looking what's happening in USA etc


There are SEVERAL countries in which downloading isn't a crime.
Sharing is.

This makes using sites like Megavideo 100% legal as long as you don't upload copyrighted material.
bLah.
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia497 Posts
January 23 2012 14:53 GMT
#309
MegaUpload - Closed.
FileServe - Closing does not sell premium.
FileJungle - Deleting files. Locked in the U.S..
UploadStation - Locked in the U.S..
FileSonic - the news is arbitrary (under FBI investigation).
... VideoBB - Closed! would disappear soon.
Uploaded - Banned U.S. and the FBI went after the owners who are gone.
FilePost - Deleting all material (so will leave executables, pdfs, txts)
Videoz - closed and locked in the countries affiliated with the USA.
4shared - Deleting files with copyright and waits in line at the FBI.
MediaFire - Called to testify in the next 90 days and it will open doors pro FBI
Org torrent - could vanish with everything within 30 days "he is under criminal investigation"
Network Share mIRC - awaiting the decision of the case to continue or terminate Torrente everything.
Koshiki - operating 100% Japan will not join the SOUP / PIPA
Shienko Box - 100% working china / korea will not join the SOUP / PIPA
ShareX BR - group UOL / BOL / iG say they will join the SOUP / PIPA
kyarisan
Profile Joined May 2010
United States347 Posts
January 23 2012 15:05 GMT
#310
On January 23 2012 23:53 bLah. wrote:
MegaUpload - Closed.
FileServe - Closing does not sell premium.
FileJungle - Deleting files. Locked in the U.S..
UploadStation - Locked in the U.S..
FileSonic - the news is arbitrary (under FBI investigation).
... VideoBB - Closed! would disappear soon.
Uploaded - Banned U.S. and the FBI went after the owners who are gone.
FilePost - Deleting all material (so will leave executables, pdfs, txts)
Videoz - closed and locked in the countries affiliated with the USA.
4shared - Deleting files with copyright and waits in line at the FBI.
MediaFire - Called to testify in the next 90 days and it will open doors pro FBI
Org torrent - could vanish with everything within 30 days "he is under criminal investigation"
Network Share mIRC - awaiting the decision of the case to continue or terminate Torrente everything.
Koshiki - operating 100% Japan will not join the SOUP / PIPA
Shienko Box - 100% working china / korea will not join the SOUP / PIPA
ShareX BR - group UOL / BOL / iG say they will join the SOUP / PIPA

source?
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 23 2012 15:05 GMT
#311
So i guess Chinese/Japanese file share services are the future?
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
January 23 2012 15:07 GMT
#312
On January 24 2012 00:05 Technique wrote:
So i guess Chinese/Japanese file share services are the future?

Thank god for progress heh ? (more like regress)
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
January 23 2012 15:13 GMT
#313
Wow, this is bigger then I thougt. It is sad for I used some of those sites from time to time . But even so I must say that I don't think that USA is in the wrong with it. The sites ARE afterall mostly used for piracy and very little else. That said it will not really stop piracy and I think this will be a bigger hit to SOPA and it's equal then anything else.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
January 23 2012 15:15 GMT
#314
On January 24 2012 00:05 kyarisan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 23:53 bLah. wrote:
MegaUpload - Closed.
FileServe - Closing does not sell premium.
FileJungle - Deleting files. Locked in the U.S..
UploadStation - Locked in the U.S..
FileSonic - the news is arbitrary (under FBI investigation).
... VideoBB - Closed! would disappear soon.
Uploaded - Banned U.S. and the FBI went after the owners who are gone.
FilePost - Deleting all material (so will leave executables, pdfs, txts)
Videoz - closed and locked in the countries affiliated with the USA.
4shared - Deleting files with copyright and waits in line at the FBI.
MediaFire - Called to testify in the next 90 days and it will open doors pro FBI
Org torrent - could vanish with everything within 30 days "he is under criminal investigation"
Network Share mIRC - awaiting the decision of the case to continue or terminate Torrente everything.
Koshiki - operating 100% Japan will not join the SOUP / PIPA
Shienko Box - 100% working china / korea will not join the SOUP / PIPA
ShareX BR - group UOL / BOL / iG say they will join the SOUP / PIPA

source?


Yeah Id really like to know where you got this from too.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 23 2012 15:17 GMT
#315
damn. Fileserve please stay alive. rapidshare too.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 23 2012 15:21 GMT
#316
The companies should just stop being stupid and move from the US. Pretty much any other country is perfectly fine with this kind of file sharing, so just move the servers and reregister your company and the US can't touch you. Might block US traffic, sure, but that's about it.
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 15:21:41
January 23 2012 15:21 GMT
#317
Seriously, fuck this timing attack. :/
Nerf please Blizzard.
Turn it Up
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
January 23 2012 15:22 GMT
#318
On January 24 2012 00:17 theBALLS wrote:
damn. Fileserve please stay alive. rapidshare too.

it's already down. Hopefully they just move their servers to china and open back up tho.
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 23 2012 15:29 GMT
#319
On January 24 2012 00:22 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 00:17 theBALLS wrote:
damn. Fileserve please stay alive. rapidshare too.

it's already down. Hopefully they just move their servers to china and open back up tho.

whats already down?

both sites seem fine to me
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 15:34:29
January 23 2012 15:32 GMT
#320
On January 24 2012 00:29 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 00:22 Nizaris wrote:
On January 24 2012 00:17 theBALLS wrote:
damn. Fileserve please stay alive. rapidshare too.

it's already down. Hopefully they just move their servers to china and open back up tho.

whats already down?

both sites seem fine to me

did you try to download something ? I can't say i have, i'm at work but this guy did...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13252983

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


You're right it's not down. But for all intends and purposes it might aswell be.
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