On January 23 2012 17:15 firehand101 wrote: EYEYEYEYEY everyone here, stop whinging, this is illegal, there is nothing good about it. So face it, it has to be dealt with
On January 23 2012 17:15 firehand101 wrote: EYEYEYEYEY everyone here, stop whinging, this is illegal, there is nothing good about it. So face it, it has to be dealt with
It shouldn't be illegal is the problem here.
Sure, it should, by any means, be legal to sell something that isn't yours and for which you have payed nothing.
The irony of this crusade against piracy is that piracy is the main reason for appliances like MP3 players and 2TB HDD to exist. Does anyone really think the iPod would have been a success if not for music piracy?
To be honest, $1 for a single song on iTunes is quite expensive, especially considering the abysmal quality of music nowadays. I mean, I'd gladly pay $3 for Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody because it's arguably the best pop song ever written but you'd have to pay me to listen to Kings of Leon.
I'm also one of the few people who still buys physical copies of albums.
This is becomming to get interesting. I personally think that this is a fight only the pirates can win, since there will always be countries where they can host servers without getting in troubles with any laws and in some years the generation, that actually has experience with filesharing websites will run the world. So finally copyright on whatever can be digitized in general will be a thing of the past in two or three decades. I hope you heard it here first;)
On January 23 2012 06:51 Malgrif wrote: Looks like pirating on the internet is soon becoming a thing of the past.
The only way pirating will die is if they shut down the internet as a whole ^^
sure, but if piratebay, isohunt, rapidshare, megaupload etc are all shut down how would an average person like u get it
There were plenty of P2P programmes before the rise of TPB, rapidshare and the likes.
Never ever used one of these.. Now i'm not big on downloading/torrenting anyway but even THINKING tha shooting these sites down would change anything seems funny for me .
On January 23 2012 16:19 bOneSeven wrote: Hey guys, keep debating about piracy while every little thing is shut down and we move little by little towards a kind of Mussolini's fascism... Makes me rather sad to see people argue on technicalities when this is a simple straight up case abusing of power... this is why a war is probable of happening, because people don't unite against "tyrants" ( I don't believe it was their intent initially to get here but, it seems to me that power really corrupts that much ) and rationalize their acts .. Bleah, don't reply to this message, just sit idly while if things progress in this way you'll get jailed for doing karaoke and uploading it on the internet.
wow. the creepers are going to come out of their mother's basements and start a war with the US government? yeah. i am pretty sure that the american public is not going to support that, and the american military is not afraid of kids who learned war from halo and modern warfare. =P
Actually they are... they're called hackers ahahah. Nobody can touch the US in a military term, but it's quite possible for main infrastructures and communication. Frankly, the US should be way more scared of a bunch of ugly nerds than ten thousand Al Qaeda members, I know the movie Die Hard 4 isnt good, but thing is, it is possible that something like that actually happens, not at such a huge scale, not on all of the US, but you attack electricity and all comunications of even one state, you'll see that it is way more dangerous than 3 fanatics in a plane. So yeah, if the US insist on pissing off most internet users including hackers, who knows, I wonder if anonymous will actually attack facebook, twitter, and some banks like they said they would, I forgot when it's supposed to hit.
On January 23 2012 07:06 Imbajoe wrote: It sure is gonna suck when every file sharing site is gone and the many people who use them legally will have nothing left.
On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote: I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch.
Semi-related, for context on all this freedom, piracy, and crime thing:
On a YT video
There is 1 poster, named mandrei99, who said this:
In dec 2004, a romanian musician Teo Peter was killed by a US soldier on romanian soil (driving under alcohol). That soldier went back to US without problems and didn't see the inside of a jail cell not even for 1 minute: see wikipedia " TEO PETER"
Why US soldiers don't do prison for killing people while driving drunk and we, normal idiots, go to prison just for downloading some movie/song ?
On January 23 2012 19:19 KainiT wrote: This is becomming to get interesting. I personally think that this is a fight only the pirates can win, since there will always be countries where they can host servers without getting in troubles with any laws and in some years the generation, that actually has experience with filesharing websites will run the world. So finally copyright on whatever can be digitized in general will be a thing of the past in two or three decades. I hope you heard it here first;)
Thing is, they can host their servers on planet Mars, but you will still be accountable in your country for downloading something illegaly. your ISPs can easily get all the information about what you've downloaded and if this is just a start, what if they pass laws that ISPs will have to report that information to authorities? EU is also pretty rigid about copyright infrigment so people shouldn't be so neutral while looking what's happening in USA etc