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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
January 22 2012 22:26 GMT
#41
On January 23 2012 07:25 Millitron wrote:
Cant you still share files by simply having dummy accounts that contain the files you want to share, and make the login info for the dummy accounts public?


That would last like 1 day before someone started removing your account/files or changed the log-in info.

Oh wait, more like 10 minutes.
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mikell
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia352 Posts
January 22 2012 22:26 GMT
#42
whats funny is the media sector expects people to be able to spend about $1000 a week going out and seeing every movie that's ever released and buying every song that person might enjoy and every tv show that person may have watched on cable television.
drone hard
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
January 22 2012 22:27 GMT
#43
On January 23 2012 07:24 Fealthas wrote:
2012 is the end of the world. The Mayans were right.
Not how we expected it to happen eh?



When you ended your 2011 calendar, was it the end of the world? Mayas don't say 21.12.2012 is the end of the world, only that a new age will come, and they consider it very positive...
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 22:28:34
January 22 2012 22:27 GMT
#44
On January 23 2012 07:26 mikell wrote:
whats funny is the media sector expects people to be able to spend about $1000 a week going out and seeing every movie that's ever released and buying every song that person might enjoy and every tv show that person may have watched on cable television.

Funny that they expect you to buy the things you like and if you can't afford to do so, not buy it and reap the benefits of a paying customer. Weird how that system works so foreign with alien like logic.
Yggdrazil
Profile Joined November 2010
France92 Posts
January 22 2012 22:29 GMT
#45
Actually, i'm not a downloader. I don't watch series, and the only movies and music i watch or listen to are movies and albums i buy on itunes.

I don't mind about piracy, i used it when i was younger, but now i prefer buying a few mp3s or a movie from time to time when i can afford it.

But what i REALLY think is that disabling every piracy vector will not only make the sales not go up, but will also make the sales go DOWN in fact.

But i am certainly wrong. Let's see
Fualtier
Profile Joined November 2010
260 Posts
January 22 2012 22:30 GMT
#46
On January 23 2012 07:16 MikailCaboose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:10 OmiDeLta wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:07 MichaelDonovan wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote:
I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch.


Not only is that not true, but it is an irresponsible thing to say.


^ This, one hundred percent.

You know on another note I've heard of bands who are okay with piracy of their music because it gives them free publicity...

Disturbed supports the piracy of their songs, because CD sales are only there for publishing companies. Bands do not make money from CD sales, they make it from the concerts, which people go to to experience it live, and is not hampered by piracy at all. In fact, ironically, piracy helps the band themselves more.

Also, I remember reading about this one...I think it was an author, who decided to 'leak' copies of his book so that it could be 'pirated', and found that his sales increased by almost (and I am remembering this from the article) 300% the week after he did that. Can somebody check on this? I can't remember the author.



That was Neil Gaiman.

Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
January 22 2012 22:32 GMT
#47
On January 23 2012 07:25 semantics wrote:
Zeesh bunch of drama queens in these threads, end of the world they comming for you....


I would be scared if I was one of the people responsible for these sites getting shut down and working on freedom-destroying bills.

Seriously, piss off a few hundred million people, a few of them are bound to be insane enough to take revenge beyond just internet protests. It's scary to think how this (removing freedom from the internet --- not just shutting down a couple of illegal filesharing sites) might escalate into real life dire situations.

I can legitimately imagine revolts all over the world eventually happening if bills like SOPA and the other similar ones pass. I know it sounds insane at first look but think about it, it's not that far fetched.

Imagine a civil war due to cutting rights from the internet. Calling it now.
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MikailCaboose
Profile Joined October 2011
United States34 Posts
January 22 2012 22:32 GMT
#48
On January 23 2012 07:30 Fualtier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:16 MikailCaboose wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:10 OmiDeLta wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:07 MichaelDonovan wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote:
I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch.


Not only is that not true, but it is an irresponsible thing to say.


^ This, one hundred percent.

You know on another note I've heard of bands who are okay with piracy of their music because it gives them free publicity...

Disturbed supports the piracy of their songs, because CD sales are only there for publishing companies. Bands do not make money from CD sales, they make it from the concerts, which people go to to experience it live, and is not hampered by piracy at all. In fact, ironically, piracy helps the band themselves more.

Also, I remember reading about this one...I think it was an author, who decided to 'leak' copies of his book so that it could be 'pirated', and found that his sales increased by almost (and I am remembering this from the article) 300% the week after he did that. Can somebody check on this? I can't remember the author.



That was Neil Gaiman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI

Thank you kindly!
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DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
January 22 2012 22:33 GMT
#49
fuck shit
Viciousvx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States83 Posts
January 22 2012 22:35 GMT
#50
this doesn't affect piracy....as much as it affects my hentai porn......
fuck.
it's Almost too Easy...
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
January 22 2012 22:37 GMT
#51
On January 23 2012 06:56 tnud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 06:54 MR KING wrote:
On January 23 2012 06:51 Malgrif wrote:
Looks like pirating on the internet is soon becoming a thing of the past.


yeah right, lol.

Pirates isn't really affected by this move at all lol.

The real looser are those who actually used that service for distribution of large legal files.

Agreed. A friend of mine regularly uses this service legally, and he's not going to be happy with this news.
o choro é livre
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
January 22 2012 22:40 GMT
#52
I found most of my university textbooks on this site. Spending hundreds of dollars for textbooks that I may barely use for a semester and then selling it for half of the original price was incredibly stupid thing universities make us do. I just hope that there will be other sites where textbooks are easily found come next semester =(
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
January 22 2012 22:40 GMT
#53
On January 23 2012 07:07 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote:
I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch.


Not only is that not true, but it is an irresponsible thing to say.


Well look I think piracy is an interesting and useful market force. Personally I think entertainment is overpriced. Music albums should be £1-2, movies should be £2-3. If that were the case piracy would be massively diminished and have served its use which is driving down the price of the products.

But I don't like all this masquerading as a battle about free speech, it's a battle to keep pirating and pirate streaming.
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
January 22 2012 22:44 GMT
#54
Lamar Smith for Anti-Person of the Year 2012.
Waffles > Pancakes
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 22:49:33
January 22 2012 22:48 GMT
#55
On January 23 2012 07:40 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:07 MichaelDonovan wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote:
I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch.


Not only is that not true, but it is an irresponsible thing to say.


Well look I think piracy is an interesting and useful market force. Personally I think entertainment is overpriced. Music albums should be £1-2, movies should be £2-3. If that were the case piracy would be massively diminished and have served its use which is driving down the price of the products.

But I don't like all this masquerading as a battle about free speech, it's a battle to keep pirating and pirate streaming.


Yeah but the bill could potentially be used for much more than simply stopping torrent sites and such. Even if it wouldn't be used for shutting down youtube or whatever it technically could be used for it. Do you really want to have those kinds of laws? It's not really fair to paint it as a pro-piracy against anti-piracy argument as that is disengenious. Any law where you have nothing more than the lawmakers words for that it wouldn't be misused is a bad law.
ABear
Profile Joined June 2006
United States161 Posts
January 22 2012 22:49 GMT
#56
holy fuck worst news i've heard in a while. my filesonic premium =[[
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
January 22 2012 22:50 GMT
#57
Very annoying but useless. Pirates will just move to other methods of sharing files.
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
January 22 2012 22:54 GMT
#58

Also trying to get a refund on a year membership. Been a loyal customer since sharingmatrix, mostly for game clients that I own and to collect my tv series digitally so I can get rid of the season boxes.
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 22:57:46
January 22 2012 22:56 GMT
#59
On January 23 2012 07:40 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:07 MichaelDonovan wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:04 sc4k wrote:
I have to say, there is being a lot of fuss made about SOPA and PIPA because of free speech, but I think 99% of the opposition is people who download files/ stream files for the purpose of evading copyright and avoiding having to pay. So much moral highgrounding but when it comes down to it people just want to keep their free lunch.


Not only is that not true, but it is an irresponsible thing to say.


Well look I think piracy is an interesting and useful market force. Personally I think entertainment is overpriced. Music albums should be £1-2, movies should be £2-3. If that were the case piracy would be massively diminished and have served its use which is driving down the price of the products.

But I don't like all this masquerading as a battle about free speech, it's a battle to keep pirating and pirate streaming.



For me it's just convenience. I rarely download anything I can't get off streaming sites. Usually just watch a ton of anime and I get a lot of the music I like from YT (download helper)...

99% of my use of internet is YT/TL/Anime/manga/porn. That's not going to get shut down, and if they start going after anime site they are really desperate.

But once in a while it's nice to be able to download something you can't find on streaming sites (a hockey game you missed or a GSL match for example). Even there, TSN and CBC have started free streams once every so often.

I don't download many games (I don't really play any offlines games anyway so I have to buy whatever I want to play) and I haven't downloaded music in a very long time.

The only non-anime stuff I watch is big bang theory and Dexter. I don't have cable so it's just a way to actually watch it. I'd much prefer to watch it in a living room on a couch on a big TV, but I can't afford cable and a couch, and my TV is used as a computer monitor. I watch like 2-3 movies a year, usually ones I already have anyway and it's usually from streaming sites, not download sites.


In other words, this doesn't really affect me (except megavideo, that's a pain for anime streams). Most people don't mass download. It's just pathetic that this is their response to people not wanting to accept SOPA.
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Malkavian183
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey227 Posts
January 22 2012 22:58 GMT
#60
As an answer to OP, i don't think Pirate Bay will go down as it is not hosted in USA. If i remember right it is stated in either Netherlands or Sweden so it should remain unaffected by SOPA. At least for now.
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