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Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 18:09:16
December 23 2011 18:07 GMT
#361
On December 23 2011 23:51 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
Oh man the cgi faces of the dwarfs or whatever they are look really bad. Noticed within a split second that they are not real... Same concern in the new The Thing, it looked really bad.... kinda like plastic. For environment or building cgi looks ok but I wish for living things movie makers would use masks or puppets more again they work way better.


It's not cgi... It is physical prosthetics on real actors, just like in the Lotr trilogy. And not all the dwarfs even wear prosthetics. And most of the buildings that are not sets are actual scale models, like Rivendell. Gollum is fully cgi though, but they have gone to great lengths to use puppets/costumes and scale models wherever possible.
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2087 Posts
December 23 2011 18:10 GMT
#362
On December 23 2011 23:51 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
Oh man the cgi faces of the dwarfs or whatever they are look really bad. Noticed within a split second that they are not real... Same concern in the new The Thing, it looked really bad.... kinda like plastic. For environment or building cgi looks ok but I wish for living things movie makers would use masks or puppets more again they work way better.

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feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 20:11:28
December 23 2011 20:10 GMT
#363
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
December 23 2011 20:27 GMT
#364
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Tialuram
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands51 Posts
December 23 2011 20:31 GMT
#365
The dwarfs look.. odd. Gimli looked much better. And if that scene between Gandalf and Galadriel turns out to be some weird romance scene I might have to punch Peter Jackson in the face

Other then that hearing the soundtrack and seeing some of the scenes got me pretty excited for this film!
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
December 23 2011 20:32 GMT
#366
On December 24 2011 05:31 Tialuram wrote:
The dwarfs look.. odd. Gimli looked much better. And if that scene between Gandalf and Galadriel turns out to be some weird romance scene I might have to punch Peter Jackson in the face

Other then that hearing the soundtrack and seeing some of the scenes got me pretty excited for this film!


Not that there was a direct romance or anything, but I seem to recall a degree of tenderness between the two. Don't worry, I'm sure it doesn't go any further than that
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
December 23 2011 20:36 GMT
#367
Is the musical score going to be the same or are they going to add some new pieces?
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 23 2011 20:38 GMT
#368
SPOILER ALERT:

+ Show Spoiler +
Bilbo survives and comes back with the ring. Gandalf survives too.
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HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
December 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#369
On December 24 2011 05:38 Requizen wrote:
SPOILER ALERT:

+ Show Spoiler +
Bilbo survives and comes back with the ring. Gandalf survives too.


I can't believe I clicked that spoiler tag. Hating myself right now...
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
December 23 2011 21:03 GMT
#370
On December 21 2011 19:44 Mafe wrote:
I do not like the look of Thorin Oakenshield. I always thought of him as one of the oldest of the dwarfs, with a beard longer than his hair. He looks more like an arrogant leader in the prime of his strength and more like a small human than a huge dwarf. Not like the king of a lost kingdom, who turned bitter through a live of disappointments, who feels superior to everyone around him and who now tries to have one last shot to restore the long lost glory of his family. At least that was he used to be in my memory.


I agree. I don't like how he looks at all. He is king of Durin's folk aka the Longbeards and is described in the book as having a very long beard. So wtf is this tiny beard shit?
Also he just looks too good for a dwarf imo, not at all how I imagined him and how he is described..
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Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
December 23 2011 22:30 GMT
#371
On December 23 2011 21:22 Thorakh wrote:
Where did you get this information? I already thought they would be doing stuff like that since the Hobbit is pretty short to fit into two movies, but I haven't seen any official information on that.


Peter Jackson said Dol Guldur and the White Council will feature heavily in the movies, and said he's using stuff from the appendices to flesh out the story. To be honest dont know how much is being used from Silmarilion or Unfinished Tales, but Radagast the Brown is listed amongst the cast so they must be using some influence from those.


On December 24 2011 05:31 Tialuram wrote:
The dwarfs look.. odd. Gimli looked much better. And if that scene between Gandalf and Galadriel turns out to be some weird romance scene I might have to punch Peter Jackson in the face
!


Doubt it, pretty sure its just Galadriel being all motherly and sympathetic to how much Gandalf works his ass off to save Middle Earth while the other wizards do feck all.
Maginor
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 23:10:18
December 23 2011 23:08 GMT
#372
On December 24 2011 07:30 Spitfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 21:22 Thorakh wrote:
Where did you get this information? I already thought they would be doing stuff like that since the Hobbit is pretty short to fit into two movies, but I haven't seen any official information on that.


Peter Jackson said Dol Guldur and the White Council will feature heavily in the movies, and said he's using stuff from the appendices to flesh out the story. To be honest dont know how much is being used from Silmarilion or Unfinished Tales, but Radagast the Brown is listed amongst the cast so they must be using some influence from those.


Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 05:31 Tialuram wrote:
The dwarfs look.. odd. Gimli looked much better. And if that scene between Gandalf and Galadriel turns out to be some weird romance scene I might have to punch Peter Jackson in the face
!


Doubt it, pretty sure its just Galadriel being all motherly and sympathetic to how much Gandalf works his ass off to save Middle Earth while the other wizards do feck all.


They don't have the filming rights to Silmarillion or unfinished tales, so they can't use anything from that unless it is also mentioned in the Hobbit or Lotr+appendix. Most of the important events and characters are in that appendix, though, including Radagast.
hai2u
Profile Joined September 2011
688 Posts
December 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#373
yeah pretty disappointed in Thorin's look, looks more like a human than a dwarf to me.
Kaien
Profile Joined August 2011
Belgium178 Posts
December 23 2011 23:27 GMT
#374
There is nothing wrong with thorins look. Yes, Peter Jackson chanced some things for the better,
but in my eyes peter jackson films > tolkiens books

(and yes i have read all the books: lotr, the hobbit, sillmarillion, children of Húrin and the unfinished tales)
Zenislev
Profile Joined January 2009
United States280 Posts
December 23 2011 23:36 GMT
#375
On December 24 2011 05:31 Tialuram wrote:
The dwarfs look.. odd. Gimli looked much better. And if that scene between Gandalf and Galadriel turns out to be some weird romance scene I might have to punch Peter Jackson in the face

Other then that hearing the soundtrack and seeing some of the scenes got me pretty excited for this film!


I have to agree, only like 3 or 4 of them look good to me, a few of them don't even look like dwarves and the rest look like cartoon characters or something.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10343 Posts
December 24 2011 00:32 GMT
#376
On December 23 2011 23:45 Shai wrote:
prequel - a film or book about an earlier stage of a story or a character's life, released because the later part of it has already been successful.

Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition
2009 © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins

"[The Hobbit] was published on 21 September 1937"
-Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"[Lord of the Rings was released] over the course of a year from the 21st of July 1954 to October 1955"
-Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Hobbit as a work is not a prequel. Perhaps one could call this movie a prequel, but The Hobbit itself is not a prequel. Please stop making that mistake, it drives me absolutely bonkers.


Ah, interesting note.


Also guys sorry I meant to say it would be cool to see a younger version of Gandalf, not older. And I thought he was a human wizard o.o I guess not.

Also I did read the Hobbit, I know the trailer wanted to appeal to LotR fans but I honestly felt like the hobbit was just a shortened alternate version of the other three books. There's a ring and a hobbit goes on a journey and comes back alive and changed. I know that's pretty vague but like Shai noted the hobbit was written before so it's as if the author was like, hm, i have a lot more ideas, let's re-write the story and split it into 3 books with a lot more depth.


Also about the book being split into 2 prequels. Ok that does make a little more sense then. The book is only 300 pages apparently but I did forget about all the other material the author wrote about in other works/books they could use. That would be interesting, hopefully. But I still think it's milking xD
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MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
December 24 2011 00:39 GMT
#377
Is the story of this movie from a book or they came up with own stuff?
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
December 24 2011 00:53 GMT
#378
On December 24 2011 09:39 MooLen wrote:
Is the story of this movie from a book or they came up with own stuff?

It's from a book, The Hobbit. Prequel to LOTR, it was written for a younger audience.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 01:00:08
December 24 2011 00:59 GMT
#379
Curiously, if prequel = book that was written afterwards about events that happened before the first book, what do you call a book that was written first about the events that happened before the second book?

edit: oh nvm I guess you would call it the first book.

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MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
December 24 2011 01:35 GMT
#380
On December 24 2011 09:53 neobowman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 09:39 MooLen wrote:
Is the story of this movie from a book or they came up with own stuff?

It's from a book, The Hobbit. Prequel to LOTR, it was written for a younger audience.


On December 24 2011 09:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
Curiously, if prequel = book that was written afterwards about events that happened before the first book, what do you call a book that was written first about the events that happened before the second book?

edit: oh nvm I guess you would call it the first book.

:<


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