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On December 10 2011 02:46 Blix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 02:35 Tomken wrote:2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet. what is ounces? First time hearing that. fluid ounces... totally confused me at an airport once... then i asked for half a liter, ended up pointing at a cup ;-) a fluid ounce is 28.4ml in the UK and 29.6ml in the US, not to confused with an ounce, which is 28.3gram or the troy ounce which is 31.2g...
dont be silly, no one would ever find this confusing
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On December 09 2011 13:43 Keyboard Warrior wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 13:38 Ryndika wrote:I'm from country that doesn't use standard but when I'm drawing I think about things in feets and inches. I have no idea why, though, heheh. I wonder if in USA where you use standard, you also use metric? No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet. but that's using 3rd dimension also, right? please tell me where i can buy 0.3x0.3x3.6 meter wood
Are you srs or just really dumb?
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On December 09 2011 13:35 Nothingtosay wrote:
Standard because the US is nonsensical and refuses to adapt.
Edit: Also people say half a meter, half a kilometer, etc, all the time.
Do you have any idea how expensive that change would be? Apparently not.
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Metric makes more sense.
I always say "he was x meters away" etc. even though I'm in America. I slap them around once in a while with a superior system of measurement.
Besides, anyone who buys drugs already knows the metric system.
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On December 10 2011 02:46 Blix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 02:35 Tomken wrote:2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet. what is ounces? First time hearing that. fluid ounces... totally confused me at an airport once... then i asked for half a liter, ended up pointing at a cup ;-) a fluid ounce is 28.4ml in the UK and 29.6ml in the US, not to confused with an ounce, which is 28.3gram or the troy ounce which is 31.2g...
the imperial system was standardized throughout the british empire after the US broke off from it, the most obvious differences is in the dry and wet volumes, our pint is also different 16fl oz vs 20 fl oz which although our ounce is larger our gallon is smaller.
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I live in Russia and we only have metric system
it makes more sence tbh
feet, yards, inches seem to be complicating
just cause I have to always convert it
BUUUUUT
I bet if I was living in states and used a Standard system, I'd think that metric is weird and too complicated
so yeah
apples and oranges imo :D
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This is entertaining. OP was obvious trolling, and there are 24 pages of answers.
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On December 10 2011 02:57 futsel wrote:
I live in Russia and we only have metric system
it makes more sence tbh
feet, yards, inches seem to be complicating
just cause I have to always convert it
BUUUUUT
I bet if I was living in states and used a Standard system, I'd think that metric is weird and too complicated
so yeah
apples and oranges imo :D
No you wouldn't I don't think the metric system confuses anyone in the US past like 8th grade. The reason the US doesn't convert has nothing to do with it being confusing, just that it would cost lots of money.
As an engineering student in the US I saw more people struggle with Imperial Units then I ever saw struggle with Metric. Slugs and lbf vs lbm seemed to confuse a lot of people even if they were from the US their entire life. People have no issues with the concept of a Newton though even being from the United States.
If the US was somehow forced to convert everyone would understand the metric system fairly quickly and get used to it.
The thing that took me the longest to not have to convert back to be able to visualize is temperature just because *F was so ingrained and I used *C less often then gram newton or meter.
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On December 09 2011 14:34 Fontong wrote:
The only good thing about imperial, in my opinion, is Fahrenheit. The weather rarely goes above 100, so that's basically a max and you can go off that. Not having freezing at zero is a pain though :/ A good system for casual temperature measurement would have the hottest weather for temperate climes at 100 degrees and freezing at zero. Very easy to tell how the weather is.
What? Maybe where you live. Temperatures vary wildly across the US. Try telling someone from Arizona that it's rarely over 100F and they will laugh in your face.
And we do print volumes and weights (lol mass) on all our consumable stuff, and sometimes we don't even bother with imperial. Does anyone buy 2.11 quarts of soda? No? How about 2 liters? Yeahhhhhh. And 1.5 quarts of ice cream = 1.42 liters. A gallon of milk is 3.78 liters. It's also on our speedometers in our vehicles and our thermometers have a C and F side. My car's clock has a button that lets me switch between Fahrenheit and Celsius.
Liquor and soda are measured in metric, while beer and other liquids (ie milk, water, orange juice, etc) are measured in ounces, with the odd quirk of soda having a 12oz can, 20 oz bottle, then 1, 2, and 3 liter bottles. Liquor of 750mL is a fifth (of a gallon) and 1.5L is a handle because the bottles have handles.
We have metric EVERYWHERE but everyone ignores it.
And while we're talking about bases 8 and 12, I'll say that as a programmer I am perfectly comfortable with bases 2 and 16, and as a result I would quite easily adapt to base 4/8/12/20/etc...
Also, when taking a science course here it's pretty much assumed that everyone knows the metric system. All of my courses used almost exclusively metric and I don't remember a single review on it (during university).
On December 09 2011 17:52 SoylentCreep wrote:
For me Metric is the standard (hope this confuses you guys). Why use a system where 12 inches are 1 foot, 3 feet are 1 yard, 22 yards are 1 chain, 10 chains are 1 furlong, 8 furlongs are 1 mile and 3 miles are 1 league? Thats just backwaterish.How do you do calculations with that kind of system. It just sounds so unnecessarily complicated.
Therefore decimal multiples for the win.Power of Ten, baby.
We ignore chains, furlongs, and leagues and basically just hulksmash our way through the math.
(note to self: page 13)
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I love how your advantages for the "standard system" are just pointing out that you're used to it but are not technical advantage in any way
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Metric because it makes sense.
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We don't ask for a "400ml" drink because we don't have 400ml cans. We don't usually ask for it based on the volume, but on the general size.
We have a standard cans and bottles, where small cans are all 355ml. Small bottles are 590ml, medium bottle is 1 litre and Big bottles are all 2litres.
I don't even know these measurements in fluid ounces, so no it isn't more convenient. Just saying.
I think people overestimate how much it would cost to convert. The entire science community is in metric.
All international companies already have to print in metric when distributing outside the u.s., not a huge stretch to think they could do the same thing for the u.s.
From what I understand through friends and relatives is it is the older generation of Americans that stubbornly hold onto Imperial.
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SI for everything exep screens wich everybody use inches
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lol why is standard called standard? i think the metric system should be referred to as 'standard' since all of us use it in physics, maths etc.
american imperialism ftw! 
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As an Englishman it's almost obligatory that I use the imperial system, particularly when ordering drinks.
Normally I don't use either form of measurement, preferring to say "a glass of" etc. but I like using imperial over metric.
Metric's just so boring!
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I study physics so everything is metric in that, but being in the U.S., I of course still talk in everyday conversations about distances as miles and people's heights as feet, etc.
I find the systems pretty irrelevant. I don't see anything more useful or insightful about referring to 1,000 meters as 1 kilometer. Or like 10^-9 meters as 1 nanometer. Exactly what does that offer? What makes "nanometer" so much easier to remember and comprehend than "10^-9 meters"? The only thing I can think of is that it is slightly quicker to say out loud.
Purely using power notation seems like it'd be much cleaner, faster, easier to remember, and easier to understand. And at the point you're only using power notation, the measurement system you use is pretty irrelevant. Whether everything is 10^X feet, or 10^X meters is just arbitrary.
It'd probably be a good thing to get everyone in the world on the same page, though. But old habits die hard.
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Metric, because that's what we use where I live, and I never saw a reason to learn Imperial measurements.
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I use standard, which is metric.
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I've always thought that metric system is standard .... ^_^
when I was in USA I was familiar with most used units, but some, I'd never heard about before, really got me confused (ounce, oz... )
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Basically USA had the chance to convert to metric like all other english speaking countries did throughout the 60's and 70's of the conversion of changing everything which australia did, canada and england (excepy mph and miles) but USA is simply very resistant to change so they avoided it + the size of the country makes the cost billions upon billions now. Howeever in tthe long run it might be worth the billions, who knows?
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