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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 06 2011 19:27 GMT
#141
Yeah seems like people are trying really hard to get points, but they probably didn't learn anything lol.
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ElvisWayCool
Profile Joined March 2010
United States437 Posts
November 06 2011 19:35 GMT
#142
Very nice! I want to start learning Spanish next year and now I can get a head start thank you!
GTo7_Panda
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany68 Posts
November 06 2011 19:37 GMT
#143
I also brute-force the voabularies, but after the 2nd or 3rd repetition they are in my mind:D For the hard ones I need to make memes though. I also stop if I notice that my percentage of correct words is too low^^
I noticed that the things in my garden are really in my longterm brain, while the 60% of the things in the greenhouse need ~2 repetition before i can remember them correctly. Don´t know if this if optimal, but I learn a lot of words really solid

Also very important: The more a word is connected to other known words or things in your head, the easier it is to recall it later. Sometimes it´s better to think about a word than to rush
Nevermind86
Profile Joined August 2009
Somalia429 Posts
November 06 2011 21:27 GMT
#144
Wow dude thanks a lot for this webpage because I'm studying french but getting a list of verbs and repeat them in my head is so boring that is slowing me down but this type of memory exercise is very very good.

I recommend www.livemocha.com too, but the excercises there are pretty boring, it helps though.
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NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
November 06 2011 21:35 GMT
#145
All we all just high-fiving each other since we're on the top 100 now or something? I have like 5 e-mails from this. XD
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Regus
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden4 Posts
November 06 2011 21:36 GMT
#146
This site is great, will spend so much time on it. However it would be great if there was a way to practice pinyin to english and the other way around. I would also want to choose which words to plant as new seeds.
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 22:05:34
November 06 2011 22:01 GMT
#147
There needs to be an option for ignoring or removing specific words whose translations are incomplete or just plain wrong from your list. There's a pretty big difference between "ball" and "measuring tape" and "orange" isn't necessarily the same as "orange colored". There are also some words that are correct but have a specific situation to be used on, so added context to the translation is necessary.
Tiax;mous
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
669 Posts
November 06 2011 22:15 GMT
#148
Wow this is brilliant, thanks sooo much for posting this man! I'm REALLY loving it
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 06 2011 22:26 GMT
#149
hehe this is awesome, at the moment in sweden, so im doing the swedish lessons

Quite usefull!!
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esre
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland109 Posts
November 06 2011 22:46 GMT
#150
Great site , thanks for the link !
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 23:16:58
November 06 2011 23:11 GMT
#151
On November 07 2011 04:27 Megaliskuu wrote:
Yeah seems like people are trying really hard to get points, but they probably didn't learn anything lol.


Not necessarily. I cracked the top 100 and most of my points come from trying to score 100% on my 28 word Korean seeds. One mistake meant that I would finish the set and try again. The writing part is what made it hard. Try not messing up one character, whether by accident or failure to remember.
It's been 7 or so hours since that session and I can guarantee you I remember at least 20 of those words with correct spelling.
But anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. Can't speak for everyone .
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doovchan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada111 Posts
November 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#152
So I've been trying to do this a lot over the pass two days. Strictly for learning and not for points. I've found some personal problems with it though.
The first problem I have which it isn't a big deal. I do understand that it's still pretty early in development but I still think I should mention that it's glitchy. Once in a while it will just say that I was correct when I leave the written questions blank (might be compatibility issue with Opera though).
I've started and deleted about 6 of the korean word databases. It seems that none of the words have any mems yet(again, I understand its still super early) and it's making it hard for me to follow (compared to the mem'd words).
It might be my technique but I just can't see myself getting into a routine with this. I want to stay with the same group of 15 words instead of being bombarded with more everytime I click the harvest/planting/watering/grow button (or what ever its called). I could just be in the wrong state of mind but I'll never get the written questions right because of the amount of words being added every time.
If I'm doing this wrong, please let me know because I 1. Want to be able to use this and 2. Will edit this post for others who may be in the same situation as me. For the time being, I'm trying really hard to get into this because I love the idea of simple in browser practice but.... I simply can't.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
November 06 2011 23:46 GMT
#153
this looks pretty interesting. I only did 1 round of planting seeds but this is definitely going to help my reading at the very least. I will play around with it more later. TL-KazeHydra.
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Hargol
Profile Joined April 2011
United States52 Posts
November 06 2011 23:49 GMT
#154
This is amazing! Thank you! This will really help me with my Hebrew class at seminary.
Dr. Von Derful
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States363 Posts
November 06 2011 23:54 GMT
#155
I'm going to keep using this, regardless of my criticism; however, it's a shame that the word rotation seems quite poor. I've decided to take only a few new words today and go over the words I did yesterday, but I tend to get the same cluster of words and I tend to get the same word(s) multiple times in the same test. It's convenient this program works the way it does as I prefer this greatly to notecards / writing out lists, but I suppose I will have to supplement with them until the kinks in the program are worked out.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
November 07 2011 00:21 GMT
#156
TL-qrs has been busting the french mnemonics.. We seem to have completely taken over the place.

Absolutely loving this so far. A few glitches like babyfactory has been saying, but I like the way you can load different 'packages' depending on your level.

It really does feel like once I get words into my garden, they're solidified in my mind.
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
November 07 2011 00:26 GMT
#157
On November 07 2011 08:54 Babyfactory wrote:
I'm going to keep using this, regardless of my criticism; however, it's a shame that the word rotation seems quite poor. I've decided to take only a few new words today and go over the words I did yesterday, but I tend to get the same cluster of words and I tend to get the same word(s) multiple times in the same test. It's convenient this program works the way it does as I prefer this greatly to notecards / writing out lists, but I suppose I will have to supplement with them until the kinks in the program are worked out.


There's a "More learning options" button on the wordlist screen (the screen where you can change between seeds, greenhouse and garden). You can change to new words only. Ideally I'd like to have a slider where I can set the exact ratio of new and old words but it's better than nothing.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think in "garden" mode the algorithm tends to focus on words it's less confident you know.
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Dr. Von Derful
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States363 Posts
November 07 2011 00:52 GMT
#158
On November 07 2011 09:26 hypercube wrote:
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On November 07 2011 08:54 Babyfactory wrote:
I'm going to keep using this, regardless of my criticism; however, it's a shame that the word rotation seems quite poor. I've decided to take only a few new words today and go over the words I did yesterday, but I tend to get the same cluster of words and I tend to get the same word(s) multiple times in the same test. It's convenient this program works the way it does as I prefer this greatly to notecards / writing out lists, but I suppose I will have to supplement with them until the kinks in the program are worked out.


There's a "More learning options" button on the wordlist screen (the screen where you can change between seeds, greenhouse and garden). You can change to new words only. Ideally I'd like to have a slider where I can set the exact ratio of new and old words but it's better than nothing.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think in "garden" mode the algorithm tends to focus on words it's less confident you know.


Yeah, I've been toying with it and I still run in to the same problem. I expected the "garden" mode to focus on words I'm getting wrong / taking more time with, but that isn't the case for me. It's not a huge complaint but I'd prefer less of a randomized approach as it seems that I'm getting bad word selections as a result. I think it's best when it simply quizzes you on everything you've done, but it seems to have a cap of 99 words at a time.

I've also noticed that if you type faster then the program can load the audio clip of the previous word the counter at the bottom stops and you are no longer being timed. If this happens either pause and unpause or continue entering answers normally as it eventually starts counting down again.
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
November 07 2011 01:02 GMT
#159
This is very neat. I think it does have some potential. However, personally I find Facebook integration to be annoying. I wish that there could be an iphone app or android app that I could play with this on.
Dr. Von Derful
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States363 Posts
November 07 2011 02:04 GMT
#160
Just an extra tidbit of information since this thread seems to be inclusive of all language learning programs / methods:

For those learning Spanish: http://www.studyspanish.com has been a useful tool for me and I would greatly recommend looking in to acquiring Spanish with Michel Thomas.

I've found that for Romance and West Germanic languages that Rosetta Stone goes at an agonizingly slow pace and feels quite tedious. If you're considering Rosetta Stone for Spanish, French, German, or Italian (just the more popular choices), I'd highly recommend looking at Michel Thomas as it is cheaper and focuses on the meat of the language and supplement with foreign films with English subtitles.
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