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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
Isn't the whole idea of that metal style to offend every person on the planet as much as possible? From the OP it sounds like Blizzard cut the video properly, so from their part i don't see any fault. If you want to get angry at Blizzard for things they did not show... well, you might as well sue the developers of "The Sims" for having sex in the game that they don't show... (The Poor Kids!) Maybe it's because i'm not gay, but i'd say just ignore it and move on... | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2011 Posts
As for where the line of offensive goes, no comment. From a Finnish cultural viewpoint such things usually don't seem awfully big of a deal, but it has often seemed that the US situation is quite different in many ways. | ||
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legendre20
United States316 Posts
Also, I watched that video, and I know this is a bit off topic from the purpose of the thread but.. Jesus that music is terrible.. how does anyone even listen to that.. | ||
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TheBomb
237 Posts
Yeah the whole world is anti-gay because we don't arrest him because he possibly has few anti-gay lines in a video on the internet. I mean this should be closed, this topic is silly. Its like saying I hate woman if I have an argument with my GF and I insult her and because I work in company X, then company X is anti woman. I mean come on people wake up and stop with this crazy witch hunt. I mean for frak sake I've sometimes insulted gays, but then I've actually insulted my friends, I've insulted family, etc... But because lets consider gays a special precious group lets all talk how I insulted gays once. I say to your friends don't go fishing in a well, its an old saying and it applies really well here! | ||
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oBlade
United States5823 Posts
On October 28 2011 16:01 Liph wrote: You really are pretty stupid. Try to think outside your own ethnicity and use some common sense. That's nonsense. Firstly, you can discriminate against more than someone's ethnicity (sex, orientation, hair length, religion). Secondly, nobody is immune, not even whites. It's condescending to suggest that someone who is white never grew a thick enough skin to suck up insults that are just words. There are two methods involved in liberation here. One is that you should just not take offense. Being offended is self-inflicted condition. Anyone being offended is an insult to the free exchange of ideas. There's also usually some special pleading involved (i.e. a black individual claiming "you can't even mention any word starting with "nig" without my being offended, now go away so my friends and I can say it to each other anyway). The second is that probably the vehicle for realizing why words aren't offensive is this: the fact that we have a word for something doesn't imply the fact of its existence. In this way we can debunk P.C., stop being scared of language, and gain even more solidarity. However, not everything you said was wrong: common sense is obviously a great practical aid to know when using words people might object to could put your body in unnecessary danger. But this doesn't say anything about the truth of the matter at hand. That is, my exercising the greater part of valor around someone who would knife me if he felt his ethnicity offended doesn't carry any ethical weight about whether it's okay to use some word. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
Smokers are suicidal, fat people are stupid, gays are ... gay? Stereotypes exists, no reason to get offended about everyone who is being a moron about it. Just ignore them, they are ignorant. Now, gays not being able to get married, adopt children, etc - that is something that it's fair and right to get upset about - in my opinion. Or just getting killed in certain african countries ... Because that's discrimination. But someone just using foul language and being an idiot ... I don't see it as much to get upset about. | ||
ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On October 28 2011 16:45 ZodaSoda wrote: I feel for the woman who got assaulted. you cant say Blizzards stirring up the Horde players hate of Alliance doesn't insight volatile behavior, and fact is a gathering of Fans for their games shouldn't feel one sided, be it, Horde vs Alliance or Starcraft vs Warcraft, also a video containing such a level of stupidity should not have been shown at an event of that nature at all, even in fun, the contents do not deserve a stage. So its a bad business move to use a well known musician who is a big fan of your game to perform on stage for an event celebrating the game? The remarks of the video were indeed edited, its his personality. When that video was originally linked it was just comical that such a hardcore guy was so hooked on WoW. | ||
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JediGamer
United States656 Posts
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
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ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
On October 28 2011 16:51 Irave wrote: So its a bad business move to use a well known musician who is a big fan of your game to perform on stage for an event celebrating the game? The remarks of the video were indeed edited, its his personality. When that video was originally linked it was just comical that such a hardcore guy was so hooked on WoW. Its in very bad taste to alienate 50% of one of your games subscribers just to be like, hey look, a celebrity in a band of some kind you "might" know, plays horde and is a total douche about it! I'd have hated to see Browder get up on stage and introduce a video of a celebrity Starcraft 2 player who went on to say all Terran and Protoss players can suck his dick and die in a fire. And i have to agree with what I've read, if i was a big WoW player who loved Alliance wearing a shirt to show my love and i was in a dark room full of thousands of people screaming how much Alliance suck due to being stirred up by what was on stage, i'd have felt a little unnerved myself. Besides all that the contents of the video where just stupid and can offend some people, be them Gay, Straight, Alliance or Horde, There's a reason that video hasn't been Seen on TV and is Flagged as Inappropriate on YouTube. It should not have been given equal attention as a WoW expansion announcement or GSL Finals, which it was, given that it was played on stage in front of thousands of eyes, during the Closing Ceremony. | ||
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tYsZ
Hungary7 Posts
On October 28 2011 17:00 Nizaris wrote: Starting to hate gays, they whine even more then feminists. totally agree User was warned for this post | ||
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JediGamer
United States656 Posts
On October 28 2011 17:02 ZodaSoda wrote: Its in very bad taste to alienate 50% of one of your games subscribers just to be like, hey look, a celebrity in a band of some kind you "might" know, plays horde and is a total douche about it! I'd have hated to see Browder get up on stage and introduce a video of a celebrity Starcraft 2 player who went on to say all Terran and Protoss players can suck his dick and die in a fire. And i have to agree with what I've read, if i was a big WoW player who loved Alliance wearing a shirt to show my love and i was in a dark room full of thousands of people screaming how much Alliance suck due to being stirred up by what was on stage, i'd have felt a little unnerved myself. Besides all that the contents of the video where just stupid and can offend some people, be them Gay, Straight, Alliance or Horde, There's a reason that video hasn't been Seen on TV and is Flagged as Inappropriate on YouTube. It should not have been given equal attention as a WoW expansion announcement or GSL Finals, which it was, given that it was played on stage in front of thousands of eyes, during the Closing Ceremony. On a similar note all that Gordon Hayward stuff with IPL was pretty annoying. We get it, your an athlete. But then they go and push that because hes an athlete hes better than gamers lol. | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On October 28 2011 17:02 ZodaSoda wrote: I'd have hated to see Browder get up on stage and introduce a video of a celebrity Starcraft 2 player who went on to say all Terran and Protoss players can suck his dick and die in a fire. Meanwhile, I wouldn't give a fuck if that happened. Good for him. Why should I care if he doesn't like Protoss? Hell, I've had a high school dropout (who's rather unsociable and cowardly and likes being a dick to people he feels intimidated by) tell me Protoss is for sissies and mentally retarded people along with a tirade of insults against myself because I play Protoss. I asked him a few times if he was serious and he said he was being dead serious, no joking at all, and I could tell by his tone he was serious. Hearty laughs were had for me. As for him, he didn't look happy I'll say that. | ||
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ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
On October 28 2011 17:05 JediGamer wrote: On a similar note all that Gordon Hayward stuff with IPL was pretty annoying. We get it, your an athlete. But then they go and push that because hes an athlete hes better than gamers lol. Exactly, they did the same thing, you know whats up, we should be friends!~ We shouldn't be friends, sorry >.> | ||
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Critter
United States196 Posts
On October 28 2011 16:45 ZodaSoda wrote: I feel for the woman who got assaulted. you cant say Blizzards stirring up the Horde players hate of Alliance doesn't insight volatile behavior, and fact is a gathering of Fans for their games shouldn't feel one sided, be it, Horde vs Alliance or Starcraft vs Warcraft, also a video containing such a level of stupidity should not have been shown at an event of that nature at all, even in fun, the contents do not deserve a stage. I can, have, and will say again that those videos didn't stir up any hate. The game is based on a war between the two factions............ a war..... between the two factions. There's competition there, built into the game, between the two factions. Both sides were shouting for their side/against the other side during the opening damn ceremonies. All the act did was stir up the passion for competition and excitement for our factions in the crowd, which personally was awesome to be a part of. Blaming the alleged assault on that video/concert is as dumb as blaming suicides on Marilyn Manson. If a video/concert is going to push you over the edge into doing something stupid then you were only clinging to that edge by a fingernail. People yelled for the Horde, so other people yelled louder for the Alliance and so on. Same thing happened at the RTS stage. "We have any Zerg players out here tonight?" *Cheers* "How about any Protoss players rooting for ____" *attempting louder cheers* It didn't like it divided the crowd, it united us in our passion for the game. Again, this is all coming from an (ex)WoW player who was on the Alliance. The one sided act got my blood pumping more, got me cheering louder for the Alliance (and for the game and Blizzard for creating such a passionate fanbase). If you didn't like the video... ok, that's your opinion. I thought the over the top nature of it was in itself funny. This hardcore, metal dude getting so amped up over a video game was awesome. He called me a cocksucker and said I should die, oh noes! Zero fucks given, I've shouted the same stuff at sporting events, had it shouted at me, and at the end of the game I've shaken hands with people who like a different team. It's part of the intensity of live events. In my experience very, very few people actually dislike others just because they have a different sporting affiliation, play a different race, are on the other faction, etc. There's competition there but after the game is over you're just two people who love the sport/game/etc. EDIT: On October 28 2011 16:45 ZodaSoda wrote: I'd have hated to see Browder get up on stage and introduce a video of a celebrity Starcraft 2 player who went on to say all Terran and Protoss players can suck his dick and die in a fire. Would you? I'd love it! BAM, instant rivalry. Now I have someone to boo, now there's some passion in that players games as I want the Protoss he's playing to win. Do I hate him? Nope. Does he hate me? Nope. What he's done is create interest in his matches (much like Idra....?) and become someone the crowd loves to root against. Don't see how this is a bad thing... I mean, do you actually believe that he wants you to personally suck his dick and then die in a fire? If so then maybe competition isn't for you... | ||
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ZodaSoda
Australia1191 Posts
On October 28 2011 17:10 Critter wrote: I can, have, and will say again that those videos didn't stir up any hate. The game is based on a war between the two factions............ a war..... between the two factions. There's competition there, built into the game, between the two factions. Both sides were shouting for their side/against the other side during the opening damn ceremonies. All the act did was stir up the passion for competition and excitement for our factions in the crowd, which personally was awesome to be a part of. Blaming the alleged assault on that video/concert is as dumb as blaming suicides on Marilyn Manson. If a video/concert is going to push you over the edge into doing something stupid then you were only clinging to that edge by a fingernail. People yelled for the Horde, so other people yelled louder for the Alliance and so on. Same thing happened at the RTS stage. "We have any Zerg players out here tonight?" *Cheers* "How about any Protoss players rooting for ____" *attempting louder cheers* It didn't like it divided the crowd, it united us in our passion for the game. Again, this is all coming from an (ex)WoW player who was on the Alliance. The one sided act got my blood pumping more, got me cheering louder for the Alliance (and for the game and Blizzard for creating such a passionate fanbase). If you didn't like the video... ok, that's your opinion. I thought the over the top nature of it was in itself funny. This hardcore, metal dude getting so amped up over a video game was awesome. He called me a cocksucker and said I should die, oh noes! Zero fucks given, I've shouted the same stuff at sporting events, had it shouted at me, and at the end of the game I've shaken hands with people who like a different team. It's part of the intensity of live events. In my experience very, very few people actually dislike others just because they have a different sporting affiliation, play a different race, are on the other faction, etc. There's competition there but after the game is over you're just two people who love the sport/game/etc. Oh don't worry, I agree with you for the most part, but saying Blizzards actions has "NO" effect, is just bullshit, we all know how easily people can get riled up. | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
On October 28 2011 17:09 ZodaSoda wrote: Exactly, they did the same thing, you know whats up, we should be friends!~ We shouldn't be friends, sorry >.> Well, 1) I wasn't planning on being friends lol, and 2) I apologize that I wouldn't get my feelings hurt because someone said bad things about a faction I prefer in a strategy game :S. | ||
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BigLighthouse
United Kingdom424 Posts
In fact even if they didnt, it would be dumb too. It's just petty people missing the entire point so they can feel offended and special | ||
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