EPTGay student gets beaten up in classroom - Page 11
| Forum Index > General Forum |
|
Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
| ||
|
Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:00 Slaughter wrote: Did you watch the video of the "fight"? I went to a public high school in DETROIT and I never saw something like that, in fact only like 2-4 fights ever happened at my school at every time it was 2 guys going at it not one kid waits for a kid to come in then starts wailing on him for no reason. This wasn't a normal fight in anyway. Well I guess the mean streets of Detroit can't match what I saw in suburban New England.  | ||
|
JujuXG
United States373 Posts
If imagine if that was your kid or you. | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:02 Xiron wrote: I dont even get why suspension is called a penalty. People in my age, 17, are happy if they dont need to go to school. And nobody here would believe that this bully would be missing school right. What I would do is have him stay down a year. He is not with his ' friends ' anymore so that he doesn't feel that obligated to act ' cool and sexy ' in class, since hes already inferior. For real. A 3 day suspension is more of a reward. I know when I got suspended a week for mutual fight, I was happy to have an extra week of spring break. | ||
|
Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:03 JujuXG wrote: I can't believe 21 people voted for no punishment? If imagine if that was your kid or you. Trolls and homophobes, it is really disgusting. | ||
|
zakmaa
Canada525 Posts
| ||
|
Primal666
Slovenia418 Posts
On October 28 2011 08:48 blobrus wrote: People like you are what allows this stuff to continue on, with little punishment and no lessons learned. I guarantee the kid probably doesn't care a single bit about a 3 day suspension, even one week wouldn't bother him. People who commit hate crimes aren't going to learn a permanent lesson from just a suspension. Yes, because that will CLEARLY help, and not acelerate their hate towards them even further, gj. | ||
|
perser84
Germany399 Posts
On October 28 2011 08:48 blobrus wrote: People like you are what allows this stuff to continue on, with little punishment and no lessons learned. I guarantee the kid probably doesn't care a single bit about a 3 day suspension, even one week wouldn't bother him. People who commit hate crimes aren't going to learn a permanent lesson from just a suspension. i agree with you they dont learn but like i said HE IS A MAN AND NOT SOME FRAGILE GIRL a men should always defend himself even if the bully is one head bigger then him but the student that get beaten up is at fault too if he would strike back even if he know he would loose they would never get harrased again a animal that shows his fangs is harder to approach i would not say those things if i would not experienced myself | ||
|
Conquerer67
United States605 Posts
On October 28 2011 08:58 Eyore wrote: 3 days? I got suspended for longer than that for defending myself against someone who attacked me in class. Yeah, my brother had to go to court once because he hit a guy one time in the locker room at school in self-defense. Then again, the school cops are frickin retarded at that school, as in, they pull you over for making a legal turn, but when someone rides down the turn lane all the way to the light and the juts into the straight lane, they don't care. On topic: The kid does deserve to get a juvie sentence if he beat someone up because he's a -insert f word here-. Technically, that's a hate crime, and it's no different than some skinheads getting together and beating up a jew or a black guy. | ||
|
Offhand
United States1869 Posts
| ||
|
blobrus
4297 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:05 Primal666 wrote: Yes, because that will CLEARLY help, and not acelerate their hate towards them even further, gj. Because a 3 day suspension will CLEARLY help, and he will never, ever, ever, think of doing anything like this again, gj. More severe punishment at least gives the possibility of him not doing this again, 3 day suspension is laughable, and probably a fun break from school for him. | ||
|
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:05 perser84 wrote: i agree with you they dont learn but like i said HE IS A MAN AND NOT SOME FRAGILE GIRL a men should always defend himself even if the bully is one head bigger then him but the student that get beaten up is at fault too if he would strike back even if he know he would loose they would never get harrased again a animal that shows his fangs is harder to approach i would not say those things if i would not experienced myself No, one swing would not stop it. It's only if you can actually beat up the bully that he'll consider stopping. A few punches from the victim would only amuse or piss off the bully. | ||
|
how2TL
1197 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:05 perser84 wrote: i agree with you they dont learn but like i said HE IS A MAN AND NOT SOME FRAGILE GIRL a men should always defend himself even if the bully is one head bigger then him but the student that get beaten up is at fault too if he would strike back even if he know he would loose they would never get harrased again a animal that shows his fangs is harder to approach i would not say those things if i would not experienced myself He did fight back. He lost. I otherwise agree with the "fight back" attitude but I'm not sure you've watched the whole video. | ||
|
MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
| ||
|
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:08 MrDudeMan wrote: I think a long suspension, as well as some mandatory therapy would be best for a punishment. A 3 day suspension is kind of a joke, a kid at my school was suspended for 2 weeks for punching through a door. But at the same time, kids do stupid shit all the time, theres no reason to ruin their lives by expelling them/charging them. You charge them as a juvenile and it's expunged from record when they turn 18. | ||
|
semantics
10040 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:04 zakmaa wrote: Violence is violence, because it was over his sexual orientation does make it more disturbing, but it should neither heighten nor lower his punishment. Having said that, I do believe that there should be police involvement and charges laid, however that won't happen unless the kid that was beaten tries to get that to happen. See it's statements like this that make me think TL is filled with 12 year olds Poll: How old are you? 18 to 25 (25) 25 or older (18) 13 to 18 years old (9) 1 - 12 years old (4) 56 total votes Your vote: How old are you? (Vote): 1 - 12 years old Just out of curiosity | ||
|
Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On October 28 2011 08:58 TheSwamp wrote: No one is asking for police to break up every school yard fight. People want the kid to be prosecuted for his actions. They are completely different. They're both kids tho. What the guy did is obviously wrong, but making what is essentially just another school fight into a criminal case goes too far in my opinion. Growing up is being allowed to make mistakes, and while this is a big one, I don't think it deserves a criminal record that has implications for the rest of this guys life. I'd also say that it looks a lot worse then it probably was. In the scheme of things, a chipped tooth and a concussion aren't exactly a disaster. Have the assaulter (or his parents) pay for dental costs, let the school decide wether or not to expel him (probably should) and let that be the end of it. Also, an assault is an assault and a murder is a murder, no matter the reasons behind the actual crime. People should not get punished for their motivation behind a crime, just for the crime itself. It is disrespectful to victims of similar crimes to have the perpetrator be judged differently. On October 28 2011 09:09 Myles wrote: You charge them as a juvenile and it's expunged from record when they turn 18. You try applying to a decent college with this on your high school transcripts. | ||
|
ChiffonAngel
43 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:05 perser84 wrote: i agree with you they dont learn but like i said HE IS A MAN AND NOT SOME FRAGILE GIRL a men should always defend himself even if the bully is one head bigger then him but the student that get beaten up is at fault too if he would strike back even if he know he would loose they would never get harrased again a animal that shows his fangs is harder to approach i would not say those things if i would not experienced myself Victim blaming? Really? | ||
|
dSoda
United States122 Posts
Suspend him/expel him. Parents have the right to press charges. Problem solved. While i think 3 days isn't enough of a suspension, there was no need for an article about it. People get beat up in school all the time for being different. At my school a kid got beat up because he played yugioh at lunch and the bully thought it was weird. The victim being gay should'nt lessen or increase the punishment imo. | ||
|
Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On October 28 2011 09:05 perser84 wrote: i agree with you they dont learn but like i said HE IS A MAN AND NOT SOME FRAGILE GIRL a men should always defend himself even if the bully is one head bigger then him but the student that get beaten up is at fault too if he would strike back even if he know he would loose they would never get harrased again a animal that shows his fangs is harder to approach i would not say those things if i would not experienced myself No you are absolutely wrong, a person shouldn't need to defend themselves. They have the right to live without worrying about being violently assaulted! I can't believe some people have this opinion, you disgust me. | ||
| ||
