Uh, you're right that we can think for ourselves, and that's exactly what some of us are doing. While there are people who risk their livelihood for a stranger, there are others who weigh the pros and cons. I'd be more inclined to say that the people who rush into everything without a thought are the ones who haven't evolved past primal instinct. The ones calculating the odds are the ones who are actually using their brains.
Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
what are you talking about, in first world countries our priority is to try and fuck the other guy in the ass without having our own ass fucked SEE: middle school, high school, college, career, love life, marriage, retirement, etc.
On October 18 2011 11:20 Sfydjklm wrote: [quote] Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
you'd do this to get a peace of mind for yourself, not for them. That's what families are for, getting together through tough times. Sometimes you gotta be more then yourself. Sometimes you have to put yourself in the shoes of the girl, her family, your family. What would they collectively want? Hell if i went all my life hungry and knew that my father was a hero and saved a life? I'll be damned if it's not worth it.
If I am responsible for getting my family through tough times, I've fucked up majorly. Whether I am a god a devil a business man a murderer or a serial killer, the next generation doesn't need to know that, All they need is to be clothed, fed, sheltered, educated and loved.
So you can be a serial killer and love your family. Cool. You need to seek a shrink.
Uh, you're right that we can think for ourselves, and that's exactly what some of us are doing. While there are people who risk their livelihood for a stranger, there are others who weigh the pros and cons. I'd be more inclined to say that the people who rush into everything without a thought are the ones who haven't evolved past primal instinct. The ones calculating the odds are the ones who are actually using their brains.
Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
Sorry you're wrong. The world hasn't evolved at the same rate, and some places have "devolved". On top of that, the world has also evolved into several different branches of "modernity".
Uh, you're right that we can think for ourselves, and that's exactly what some of us are doing. While there are people who risk their livelihood for a stranger, there are others who weigh the pros and cons. I'd be more inclined to say that the people who rush into everything without a thought are the ones who haven't evolved past primal instinct. The ones calculating the odds are the ones who are actually using their brains.
Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
not to mention that that area of China is far from a 'third world country'
Uh, you're right that we can think for ourselves, and that's exactly what some of us are doing. While there are people who risk their livelihood for a stranger, there are others who weigh the pros and cons. I'd be more inclined to say that the people who rush into everything without a thought are the ones who haven't evolved past primal instinct. The ones calculating the odds are the ones who are actually using their brains.
Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
I'd say its more of the opposite. Why do you think in third world countries people's extended families are, well, so extended. As i said, when youre broke and dont have a future, people is all you have.
On October 18 2011 11:27 T0fuuu wrote: Right. I'll remember how cultured and civilised the Americans are then next time yet another video of US troops executing civilians comes out and then blame it on American culture/Law and capitalism and all that stuff.
Horrifying yeah but get over it. If someone got hit by a truck, their guts open and their legs smashed, mouth gaping like a gold fish as they choke on their own blood, I somehow doubt I would go hero mode and pull them away. People dont like death and blood and will avoid it whenever they can.
Way to generalise absolutely every concept possible that is related to this topic and add a little bit of "US hate" to it as well.
Why characterise an ENTIRE nation of people based on the actions of their military during war time? I am not even American and your post offends me. It is this EXACT attitude that is the problem; human life should be the number 1 priority; full stop.
It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you.
Generalization of the characteristics of a subset of a population to represent the entire population. Typical moron.
Generalization of a single post to represent the entire person. Typical moron indeed, good sir.
All I did was say what he did (generalize), then claim that he's a moron according to my definition of what constitutes a moron.
I made no such generalization that you've claimed I've made, unless you're employing a definition of "generalization" that I've never encountered before. If this is the case, I would like you to present this definition, otherwise I'll discard your criticism.
You generalized his statement as being a generalization. Good sir.
You still haven't provided your definition of what constitutes a generalization. I've ASSERTED that his statement is a generalization. I've also CATEGORIZED his statement into that which can be considered an attempt at generalization.
But I don't understand what it means to "generalize his statement as being a generalization".
let me try this in your local dialect:
G'day mate. He made a statement about foreigners. You generalized that statement as being a normal generalization.
You're still not making any sense, I'm sorry. Since I can't understand your criticism and you insist on repeating the same sentence that I've made clear that I'm not understanding, I'm going to discard your criticism. Thank you.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what this means. No worries mate, just go learn English, I know there's a program that brings English teachers to your country. Look into it.
On October 18 2011 11:20 Sfydjklm wrote: [quote] Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
Sorry you're wrong. The world hasn't evolved at the same rate, and some places have "devolved". On top of that, the world has also evolved into several different branches of "modernity".
But "expecting" that you would help or that someone in general would stop and help is what will hopefully translate into action. The moment we stop "expecting" people to stop and help someone in need is going to be a pretty scary time.
On October 18 2011 11:31 bkrow wrote: [quote] Way to generalise absolutely every concept possible that is related to this topic and add a little bit of "US hate" to it as well.
Why characterise an ENTIRE nation of people based on the actions of their military during war time? I am not even American and your post offends me. It is this EXACT attitude that is the problem; human life should be the number 1 priority; full stop.
It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you.
Generalization of the characteristics of a subset of a population to represent the entire population. Typical moron.
Generalization of a single post to represent the entire person. Typical moron indeed, good sir.
All I did was say what he did (generalize), then claim that he's a moron according to my definition of what constitutes a moron.
I made no such generalization that you've claimed I've made, unless you're employing a definition of "generalization" that I've never encountered before. If this is the case, I would like you to present this definition, otherwise I'll discard your criticism.
You generalized his statement as being a generalization. Good sir.
You still haven't provided your definition of what constitutes a generalization. I've ASSERTED that his statement is a generalization. I've also CATEGORIZED his statement into that which can be considered an attempt at generalization.
But I don't understand what it means to "generalize his statement as being a generalization".
let me try this in your local dialect:
G'day mate. He made a statement about foreigners. You generalized that statement as being a normal generalization.
You're still not making any sense, I'm sorry. Since I can't understand your criticism and you insist on repeating the same sentence that I've made clear that I'm not understanding, I'm going to discard your criticism. Thank you.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what this means. No worries mate, just go learn English, I know there's a program that brings English teachers to your country. Look into it.
Why be an asshole? He's from Australia and therefore doesn't speak English? Or you are somewhat better than him because you are from.. Poland? I mean really - why country bash?
On October 18 2011 11:20 Sfydjklm wrote: [quote] Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
I'd say its more of the opposite. Why do you think in third world countries people's extended families are, well, so extended. As i said, when youre broke and dont have a future, people is all you have.
It's ironic, because in first world countries nobody looks out for you either!
Uh, you're right that we can think for ourselves, and that's exactly what some of us are doing. While there are people who risk their livelihood for a stranger, there are others who weigh the pros and cons. I'd be more inclined to say that the people who rush into everything without a thought are the ones who haven't evolved past primal instinct. The ones calculating the odds are the ones who are actually using their brains.
Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
More like you lucked the fuck out to be born and raised in a country that has evolved. Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to hold the idealistic view you cultivated growing up in relative luxury, where you never actually have to face the harsher realities of life.
On October 18 2011 11:31 bkrow wrote: [quote] Way to generalise absolutely every concept possible that is related to this topic and add a little bit of "US hate" to it as well.
Why characterise an ENTIRE nation of people based on the actions of their military during war time? I am not even American and your post offends me. It is this EXACT attitude that is the problem; human life should be the number 1 priority; full stop.
It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you.
Generalization of the characteristics of a subset of a population to represent the entire population. Typical moron.
Generalization of a single post to represent the entire person. Typical moron indeed, good sir.
All I did was say what he did (generalize), then claim that he's a moron according to my definition of what constitutes a moron.
I made no such generalization that you've claimed I've made, unless you're employing a definition of "generalization" that I've never encountered before. If this is the case, I would like you to present this definition, otherwise I'll discard your criticism.
You generalized his statement as being a generalization. Good sir.
You still haven't provided your definition of what constitutes a generalization. I've ASSERTED that his statement is a generalization. I've also CATEGORIZED his statement into that which can be considered an attempt at generalization.
But I don't understand what it means to "generalize his statement as being a generalization".
let me try this in your local dialect:
G'day mate. He made a statement about foreigners. You generalized that statement as being a normal generalization.
You're still not making any sense, I'm sorry. Since I can't understand your criticism and you insist on repeating the same sentence that I've made clear that I'm not understanding, I'm going to discard your criticism. Thank you.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what this means. No worries mate, just go learn English, I know there's a program that brings English teachers to your country. Look into it.
I understood what you've just said ... but I feel it appropriate that we cease conversation at this post as, on the question of generalizations, I cannot comprehend anything that you say. If you wish to progress on this matter further, you can send me a PM.
On October 18 2011 11:34 Blasterion wrote: [quote] It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you.
Generalization of the characteristics of a subset of a population to represent the entire population. Typical moron.
Generalization of a single post to represent the entire person. Typical moron indeed, good sir.
All I did was say what he did (generalize), then claim that he's a moron according to my definition of what constitutes a moron.
I made no such generalization that you've claimed I've made, unless you're employing a definition of "generalization" that I've never encountered before. If this is the case, I would like you to present this definition, otherwise I'll discard your criticism.
You generalized his statement as being a generalization. Good sir.
You still haven't provided your definition of what constitutes a generalization. I've ASSERTED that his statement is a generalization. I've also CATEGORIZED his statement into that which can be considered an attempt at generalization.
But I don't understand what it means to "generalize his statement as being a generalization".
let me try this in your local dialect:
G'day mate. He made a statement about foreigners. You generalized that statement as being a normal generalization.
You're still not making any sense, I'm sorry. Since I can't understand your criticism and you insist on repeating the same sentence that I've made clear that I'm not understanding, I'm going to discard your criticism. Thank you.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what this means. No worries mate, just go learn English, I know there's a program that brings English teachers to your country. Look into it.
I understood what you've just said ... but I feel it appropriate that we cease conversation at this post as, on the question of generalizations, I cannot comprehend anything that you say. If you wish to progress on this matter further, you can send me a PM.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
Sorry you're wrong. The world hasn't evolved at the same rate, and some places have "devolved". On top of that, the world has also evolved into several different branches of "modernity".
But "expecting" that you would help or that someone in general would stop and help is what will hopefully translate into action. The moment we stop "expecting" people to stop and help someone in need is going to be a pretty scary time.
On October 18 2011 11:34 Blasterion wrote: [quote] It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you.
Generalization of the characteristics of a subset of a population to represent the entire population. Typical moron.
Generalization of a single post to represent the entire person. Typical moron indeed, good sir.
All I did was say what he did (generalize), then claim that he's a moron according to my definition of what constitutes a moron.
I made no such generalization that you've claimed I've made, unless you're employing a definition of "generalization" that I've never encountered before. If this is the case, I would like you to present this definition, otherwise I'll discard your criticism.
You generalized his statement as being a generalization. Good sir.
You still haven't provided your definition of what constitutes a generalization. I've ASSERTED that his statement is a generalization. I've also CATEGORIZED his statement into that which can be considered an attempt at generalization.
But I don't understand what it means to "generalize his statement as being a generalization".
let me try this in your local dialect:
G'day mate. He made a statement about foreigners. You generalized that statement as being a normal generalization.
You're still not making any sense, I'm sorry. Since I can't understand your criticism and you insist on repeating the same sentence that I've made clear that I'm not understanding, I'm going to discard your criticism. Thank you.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what this means. No worries mate, just go learn English, I know there's a program that brings English teachers to your country. Look into it.
Why be an asshole? He's from Australia and therefore doesn't speak English? Or you are somewhat better than him because you are from.. Poland? I mean really - why country bash?
Alot of people in this thread thinks they're better because they're from US/Euro or w/e I don't see anything wrong with Caller's actions since seems to be what is sanctioned as standard, I mean hey When you look at TL Country bashing China comes out on top, ironic people from US and Euro are the first to complain though
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
Sorry you're wrong. The world hasn't evolved at the same rate, and some places have "devolved". On top of that, the world has also evolved into several different branches of "modernity".
But "expecting" that you would help or that someone in general would stop and help is what will hopefully translate into action. The moment we stop "expecting" people to stop and help someone in need is going to be a pretty scary time.
On October 18 2011 11:34 Blasterion wrote: [quote] It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you.
Generalization of the characteristics of a subset of a population to represent the entire population. Typical moron.
Generalization of a single post to represent the entire person. Typical moron indeed, good sir.
All I did was say what he did (generalize), then claim that he's a moron according to my definition of what constitutes a moron.
I made no such generalization that you've claimed I've made, unless you're employing a definition of "generalization" that I've never encountered before. If this is the case, I would like you to present this definition, otherwise I'll discard your criticism.
You generalized his statement as being a generalization. Good sir.
You still haven't provided your definition of what constitutes a generalization. I've ASSERTED that his statement is a generalization. I've also CATEGORIZED his statement into that which can be considered an attempt at generalization.
But I don't understand what it means to "generalize his statement as being a generalization".
let me try this in your local dialect:
G'day mate. He made a statement about foreigners. You generalized that statement as being a normal generalization.
You're still not making any sense, I'm sorry. Since I can't understand your criticism and you insist on repeating the same sentence that I've made clear that I'm not understanding, I'm going to discard your criticism. Thank you.
I'm sorry, I have no idea what this means. No worries mate, just go learn English, I know there's a program that brings English teachers to your country. Look into it.
Why be an asshole? He's from Australia and therefore doesn't speak English? Or you are somewhat better than him because you are from.. Poland? I mean really - why country bash?
The intellectually illegitimate will appeal to many things that seem strange. In this case it is tribalism and implications that I can't speak English.
Uh, you're right that we can think for ourselves, and that's exactly what some of us are doing. While there are people who risk their livelihood for a stranger, there are others who weigh the pros and cons. I'd be more inclined to say that the people who rush into everything without a thought are the ones who haven't evolved past primal instinct. The ones calculating the odds are the ones who are actually using their brains.
Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
Thats the thing, its not that you have nothing, but that you could lose everything, not just for yourself but for your family. I think if noones relying on you to keep them alive and support them, and the only reason you arent helping someone is that you are watching out for your own hide, thats pretty scummy. Still logical, but scummy. But I dont think its scummy to value your families lives above those of strangers. Though you do bring up a good point about helping and just walking away, theres still the risk of getting caught in the process by the authorities, and being framed.
Everything? What was everything? People was everything. You had nothing. People talking about their families and shit. By making it about them you make them murders. Go home tell your wife or your mother you walked away from a dying girl because of her? I dunno about your scumbag families but mine would denounce me for making them part to this atrocity.
Cool your steam man, we obviously have different priorities, you have your duties to to that girl, I have duties to make sure my family has food on the table. Hey honestly if it came down to it, I'd do the shadiest things behind my family's back to make sure they're fed, clothed, and sheltered.
You just don't get it, in first world countries people look out for each other, within reason(people who fuck themselves over by doing stupid things are not my problem), in third world countries or lawless areas such as remote countrysides people only look out for their family. If this was the middle ages I would agree with you, but it isn't, the world evolved, you didn't.
I would be careful about throwing around the term "first world country". That title is generally based around education, literacy, and GDP.
The U.S.'s education system ranks 25th in math, 17th in science, and 14th in reading as of the beginning of this year. Comparatively, Chinese education ranks 1st in all three categories.
According to the IMF, China's GDP is slated to surpass that of the U.S.'s by 2016.
Literacy rates are 96 for China, 99 for U.S.
Deeming China a "3rd world country" isn't really appropriate.
On October 18 2011 12:00 SilverLeagueElite wrote: I remember China having a 1 child per couple law. If a current child dies, would couples be eligible to have another child?
What the fuck? Is that really the way you think about kids?
On October 18 2011 12:12 arbitrageur wrote: The intellectually illegitimate will appeal to many things that seem strange. In this case it is tribalism and implications that I can't speak English.
I know that he's trolling you and that you're probably feeling pretty irate... but do you realize that you're talking about Caller?
On October 18 2011 11:47 FabledIntegral wrote: Well, I've read the few pages and it seems to have gotten to the topic of Chinese being savages, but all I can think about after seeing that is how sad it is for the parents and how awful it is for that little girl... my heart goes out to her.
For those wondering, the most relevant excerpt from the 2006 case in the article above
There was a precedent for this. On Nov 20, 2006, an old woman fell to the ground and broke her leg after jostling at a bus stop in Nanjing, an eastern China city. A young man, Peng Yu, helped her up and escorted her to hospital. Later the woman and her family dragged the man to court, which ruled that the young man should pay 40 percent of the medical costs. The court said the decision was reached by reasoning. The verdict said that "according to common sense", it was highly possible that the defendant had bumped into the old woman, given that he was the first person to get off the bus when the old woman was pushed down in front of the bus door and, "according to what one would normally do in this case", Peng would have left soon after sending the woman to the hospital instead of staying there for the surgical check. "His behavior obviously went against common sense."
This "reasoning" horrified, and angered, the whole nation. From then on, the number of pedestrians helping old people in need has dramatically decreased. Using search engines online, one can get dozens of stories of old people left lying on the ground without any passers-by giving a helping hand. Netizens have even coined a new phrase for it - "sequel of the Peng Yu case".
In the wake of this case old people also learned the way to get help was to shout a disclaimer for the would-be helpers. On Feb 22, 2009, a 75-year-old man fell to the ground when disembarking from a bus, also in Nanjing. Once again, nobody dared to touch him. In desperation, the old man shouted: "It is not anybody's fault. I fell by myself." At the words, everybody nearby came with all kinds of help.
In fact, most people feel compassion for the weak. But the frequent occurrence of extortion and blackmail after a passer-by has offered help has deterred people from acting as a Good Samaritan. Something has to be done to change the situation.
We may learn from the US experience.
In a 2004 traffic crash, a woman pulled a coworker from a car fearing a possible explosion. The injured person later filed a lawsuit against the rescuer, claiming that the improper way she was pulled from the car caused her paralysis. The court ruled in favor of the plaintiff. The ruling got "condemned from coast to coast" for its obvious unfairness. In June 2009, the California legislature passed the Good Samaritan Protection Act, which immunizes Good Samaritans from liability when they assist others at the scene of an emergency. The plaintiff withdrew the suit.
We Chinese also need such a law so that "Good Samaritans should never again have to second-guess the consequences of helping", as said by one California senator after the law was passed.
I don't need to stinking law to tell me or anyone else that helping people is human and natural and that you shouldn't be prosecuted for it.
I mean if there are moron judges out there in the world that rule for the plaintiffs in these cases they need to be out of job.
It is common sense that the person helping the one shouldn't be charged, unless it was very obvious and there were witnesses saying he actually caused the incident in the first place.
On October 18 2011 12:00 SilverLeagueElite wrote: I remember China having a 1 child per couple law. If a current child dies, would couples be eligible to have another child?
What the fuck? Is that really the way you think about kids?
To answer your question: yes it is allowed for couples to be elligible to have another child without paying a "exceed fine"
and the law is changed, You can have more than 1 child, You do have a tax to pay for each addtional child though
Fuck. I just don't understand this. What the fuck is wrong with this world? Greedy, cold, moronic people everywhere. People who just walk by, they are not human. As far as I'm concerned these people are not human beings.
If this is because of some system or laws or whatever it doesn't change anything, it only means that these things have taken away what is human in you - that is atleast my oppinion. I would rather die than being in a situation where i couldn't help some one like that.
On October 18 2011 12:00 SilverLeagueElite wrote: I remember China having a 1 child per couple law. If a current child dies, would couples be eligible to have another child?
What the fuck? Is that really the way you think about kids?
Yes, in China the one child policy does really lead to situations in which these quandaries inconceivable to our customs arise. I believe that couples can file for the right to have another child if their first dies before adulthood.
That said, it isn't as if the government restricts child-bearing beyond one per family. The policy isn't enforced in the rural areas, and generally the only punishment for breaking the one child policy is loss of tax benefits, government promotions, and loss of free education.
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