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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

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1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
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4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
November 14 2016 15:13 GMT
#17821
its not just about sex. we are good friends. sometimes i'm her backup guy for sex. sometimes for 1 of her big family events when she was not married and wants someone to go with her i'd be her "bf for the event". i'm skilled at helping her exit from mandatory family events ASAP.. like within 3 or 4 hours.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 14 2016 18:13 GMT
#17822
On November 15 2016 00:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its not just about sex. we are good friends. sometimes i'm her backup guy for sex. sometimes for 1 of her big family events when she was not married and wants someone to go with her i'd be her "bf for the event". i'm skilled at helping her exit from mandatory family events ASAP.. like within 3 or 4 hours.

Sounds like a very one sided "relationship"/deal.

Are you persuing something that will last as well?
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
November 15 2016 05:47 GMT
#17823
Oh first time posting but check this thread every now and then. But finally I have a good success story

Anyway last friday I was at a bar and a guy I found really attractive walked it. It was quite late so wasn't very many customers left and the bartender and I had been talking and it was quite obvious I thought the guy walking in was attractive.. Anyway the bartender tried to wingman for me lol, he spoke in Korean but I understood the geist of it so was very nice of him. Unfortunately the guy didn't seem interested so we gave up.

Until I came across the same guy today on a dating app, I asked him it he was at the bar last friday because I was a bit drunk and wasn't 100% sure because people look slightly different in pictures as well. It was him and now he seem interested so we're going on a coffee date woo.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-15 07:47:06
November 15 2016 07:45 GMT
#17824
On November 15 2016 03:13 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2016 00:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
its not just about sex. we are good friends. sometimes i'm her backup guy for sex. sometimes for 1 of her big family events when she was not married and wants someone to go with her i'd be her "bf for the event". i'm skilled at helping her exit from mandatory family events ASAP.. like within 3 or 4 hours.

Sounds like a very one sided "relationship"/deal.

Are you persuing something that will last as well?

Idk, to me it sounds like a very balanced friendship where lines appear to be clear for both parties involved.
From what I've read, it doesn't appear to be a case of being taken advantage of or sth. like that.
On November 15 2016 14:47 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Oh first time posting but check this thread every now and then. But finally I have a good success story

Anyway last friday I was at a bar and a guy I found really attractive walked it. It was quite late so wasn't very many customers left and the bartender and I had been talking and it was quite obvious I thought the guy walking in was attractive.. Anyway the bartender tried to wingman for me lol, he spoke in Korean but I understood the geist of it so was very nice of him. Unfortunately the guy didn't seem interested so we gave up.

Until I came across the same guy today on a dating app, I asked him it he was at the bar last friday because I was a bit drunk and wasn't 100% sure because people look slightly different in pictures as well. It was him and now he seem interested so we're going on a coffee date woo.

There ya go, good luck with that! Props for asking him!
passive quaranstream fan
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8943 Posts
November 16 2016 03:44 GMT
#17825
On November 15 2016 14:47 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Oh first time posting but check this thread every now and then. But finally I have a good success story

Anyway last friday I was at a bar and a guy I found really attractive walked it. It was quite late so wasn't very many customers left and the bartender and I had been talking and it was quite obvious I thought the guy walking in was attractive.. Anyway the bartender tried to wingman for me lol, he spoke in Korean but I understood the geist of it so was very nice of him. Unfortunately the guy didn't seem interested so we gave up.

Until I came across the same guy today on a dating app, I asked him it he was at the bar last friday because I was a bit drunk and wasn't 100% sure because people look slightly different in pictures as well. It was him and now he seem interested so we're going on a coffee date woo.

1. i didnt know you were a girl
2. is this in korea?
3. what dating app pls
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
November 16 2016 04:35 GMT
#17826
1. I'm not
2. Yes
3. Called Hornet, which is a bit more dating oriented than grindr/tinder
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-16 22:46:59
November 16 2016 22:44 GMT
#17827
On November 08 2016 13:50 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 09:19 B.I.G. wrote:
On November 08 2016 04:44 bloodwhore~ wrote:
On November 08 2016 00:16 B.I.G. wrote:
Women find age important because they accredite a certain level of maturity to whatever your age is.

You make it sound like women are the only ones who care how old the person you are dating is.

If you're dating someone and he/she never asks how old you are, that's rather strange to be honest. You will get the question sooner or later.

I got the "I normally date older guys" and "I think you are too young for me" comments so often while most guys I know don't care about age much as long as it is in the reasonable range.

i care
reasonable range for me (+/- 4 years) still puts me in range of girls that have bricks in their heads, so i do care about age somewhat.
ive got a full time job, have a good career path, just bought a house and am actually going somewhere with my life. i dont want to be dating a girl who still has years before they finish their 'party life' and join the real world (not saying the real world is a dull hellhole, but you get my point). i also dont want to be dating a girl whos 4 years older than me but is still living like shes a student either.


where are you going in your life?

also damn dude, that heteronormativity
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 16 2016 22:53 GMT
#17828
This has like really nothing to do with hereronormativity xD
passive quaranstream fan
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 16 2016 22:54 GMT
#17829
read 2-3 posts above yours
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 16 2016 23:03 GMT
#17830
I guess you're refering to thinking he's a she?
Then I'd agree.
passive quaranstream fan
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
November 18 2016 02:30 GMT
#17831
Just came back from one of the best, but also easily the most confusing, date ever. Same girl as a few pages back.

4th date. We went to an arcade/bar thing. We had dinner, drinks, played boardgames and videogames and talked a lot. Banter and conversation was amazing, there was much flirting. When I went in for the kiss I got rejected (wouldn't look me in the eyes, kept her head down). Later, when I told her I was confused she seemed so into me but refused to kiss me, she told me she's "very awkward" with intimacy. She told me that 2 years ago something happened that made it that way, and that "she finds it hard to trust guys enough now". Honestly, she made it sound like she was abused or raped, but didn't want to elaborate.

We continued the date, I rode her home. She invited me in for coffee, we talked for another few hours. I left with a hug.

I'm guessing popular advice will be something along the lines of "too much bagage, plenty of fish in the sea", but I'm really enjoying her company and the banter and conversation is the best I've ever had this early in. She's also really sexy. I want to see where this goes for now.

farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18876 Posts
November 18 2016 02:32 GMT
#17832
Don't let anyone give you that shit, keep at it if you think its worthwhile. You're the one in the best position to make that call.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8943 Posts
November 18 2016 02:46 GMT
#17833
if you enjoy her company why would you throw that away because she wants to take things slow. if shes totally against intimacy thatd be another thing, but to me she just wants to get more comfortable with you first. besides, if you become the knight in shining armour that relieves her of her baggage shit gets hot (from my experience)
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-18 02:56:06
November 18 2016 02:50 GMT
#17834
On November 18 2016 11:30 Mikau wrote:
Just came back from one of the best, but also easily the most confusing, date ever. Same girl as a few pages back.

4th date. We went to an arcade/bar thing. We had dinner, drinks, played boardgames and videogames and talked a lot. Banter and conversation was amazing, there was much flirting. When I went in for the kiss I got rejected (wouldn't look me in the eyes, kept her head down). Later, when I told her I was confused she seemed so into me but refused to kiss me, she told me she's "very awkward" with intimacy. She told me that 2 years ago something happened that made it that way, and that "she finds it hard to trust guys enough now". Honestly, she made it sound like she was abused or raped, but didn't want to elaborate.

We continued the date, I rode her home. She invited me in for coffee, we talked for another few hours. I left with a hug.

I'm guessing popular advice will be something along the lines of "too much bagage, plenty of fish in the sea", but I'm really enjoying her company and the banter and conversation is the best I've ever had this early in. She's also really sexy. I want to see where this goes for now.

What else do you know about her dating history? Has she been with other guys since whatever happened to her?

If something bad happened within the past 3-6 months, that'd be one thing. Two years and still no kiss after four dates? Something's off. More likely than not, she's not that into you. If I were you, I'd make myself a little bit scarcer and date some other people (though you can keep seeing her). She may come around. If not, then I doubt that she would otherwise.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 18 2016 05:04 GMT
#17835
Something is off but I don't agree that she's not into you. People don't invite you in for coffee at the end of the night on the fourth date just to be polite.
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 18 2016 05:22 GMT
#17836
On November 18 2016 14:04 IgnE wrote:
Something is off but I don't agree that she's not into you. People don't invite you in for coffee at the end of the night on the fourth date just to be polite.

Eh, I've basically had that happen to me before. And I was too stupid at the time to really understand what was going on, and I sure as hell wasn't listening to reason from my friends at the time.

Regardless, it's hard to judge in a vacuum without knowing more about the girl and the specific circumstances. I think that the dating history will tell the tale.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 18 2016 06:40 GMT
#17837
On November 18 2016 11:30 Mikau wrote:
Just came back from one of the best, but also easily the most confusing, date ever. Same girl as a few pages back.

4th date. We went to an arcade/bar thing. We had dinner, drinks, played boardgames and videogames and talked a lot. Banter and conversation was amazing, there was much flirting. When I went in for the kiss I got rejected (wouldn't look me in the eyes, kept her head down). Later, when I told her I was confused she seemed so into me but refused to kiss me, she told me she's "very awkward" with intimacy. She told me that 2 years ago something happened that made it that way, and that "she finds it hard to trust guys enough now". Honestly, she made it sound like she was abused or raped, but didn't want to elaborate.

We continued the date, I rode her home. She invited me in for coffee, we talked for another few hours. I left with a hug.

I'm guessing popular advice will be something along the lines of "too much bagage, plenty of fish in the sea", but I'm really enjoying her company and the banter and conversation is the best I've ever had this early in. She's also really sexy. I want to see where this goes for now.


Can't say I've been in this exact situation. However I met a girl at a club before, we made out there etc, she wasn't interested in taking it further there so I asked her on a date instead. I tried to kiss her after the first date, got rejected, however she still wanted to continue seeing me. We went on two more dates and I never really bothered with trying kiss her again assuming she would go for it. After the third date we stopped dating.

However your girl seems to a bit more interested. Anyway, if you are going to continue seeing her, I think it would be unwise to expect her to make the first move.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1970 Posts
November 18 2016 12:18 GMT
#17838
So i am back to being seingle after 9 months of a relationship and i am missing it, but i don't see me getting back anytime soon. I met my last girl on okcupid, but this seems kinda worn out now. The women on the platform are either there since 3 year or have no profile etc. I have payed for 3 months but haven't actually started putting any effort in it and i absolutely don't feel like it. The women in my natural feeding grounds are all in relationships and those feeding grounds are extremely small anyway. I am awkward around people in don't know and so i don't ask women out unless i already know them. So, if my friends, coworkers and sportswomen are all taken or not interested, i am out of options I might learn how to be more open to strangers but that woud mean to first change my life to one where you meet people and i don't want to do both. So i guess i am back to being sad about not having someone and accepting that it won't change. Le sigh.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 18 2016 13:30 GMT
#17839
On November 18 2016 14:04 IgnE wrote:
Something is off but I don't agree that she's not into you. People don't invite you in for coffee at the end of the night on the fourth date just to be polite.

She might like him very much, just not romantically - what's strange with that.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 18 2016 13:34 GMT
#17840
On November 18 2016 21:18 Broetchenholer wrote:
So i am back to being seingle after 9 months of a relationship and i am missing it, but i don't see me getting back anytime soon. I met my last girl on okcupid, but this seems kinda worn out now. The women on the platform are either there since 3 year or have no profile etc. I have payed for 3 months but haven't actually started putting any effort in it and i absolutely don't feel like it. The women in my natural feeding grounds are all in relationships and those feeding grounds are extremely small anyway. I am awkward around people in don't know and so i don't ask women out unless i already know them. So, if my friends, coworkers and sportswomen are all taken or not interested, i am out of options I might learn how to be more open to strangers but that woud mean to first change my life to one where you meet people and i don't want to do both. So i guess i am back to being sad about not having someone and accepting that it won't change. Le sigh.

This does not compute
Either it bothers you and you will do something about it
Or you accept the situation, in which case why would you be sad about something you consciously have chosen?

It's okay to be cool with being alone
As it's okay to to take action if you're not.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
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