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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 13 2016 02:59 GMT
#17401
So I had this girl cancel on me twice now. She seems really into me when we text, but every time we arrange to meet up, something comes up. The excuses can be legit, but I dunno if I should continue to spend time even trying at this rate. What do you guys think?
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
August 13 2016 03:08 GMT
#17402
tell her that she can pick the next date
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 03:10:16
August 13 2016 03:09 GMT
#17403
Maybe she's flaky, nervous, worried, self-conscious or scared.

I would just call her on it and tell her there's really no need to be nervous (or ask her, "you're not cancelling because you're nervous, right? If you have a big fat pimple I really don't care". Then if she showed up with a pimple, tell her you lied. You do care and that the date was a mistake. Seems like a pretty simple solution.

In all seriousness though if she cancelled twice, it's up to you whether to give her one more chance. And if she breaks that chance, from then on she must do all the lifting to get the next date because you've lost enough interest and are skeptical of whether she's worth your time.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 13 2016 03:15 GMT
#17404
On August 13 2016 12:09 SK.Testie wrote:
Maybe she's flaky, nervous, worried, self-conscious or scared.

I would just call her on it and tell her there's really no need to be nervous (or ask her, "you're not cancelling because you're nervous, right? If you have a big fat pimple I really don't care". Then if she showed up with a pimple, tell her you lied. You do care and that the date was a mistake. Seems like a pretty simple solution.

In all seriousness though if she cancelled twice, it's up to you whether to give her one more chance. And if she breaks that chance, from then on she must do all the lifting to get the next date because you've lost enough interest and are skeptical of whether she's worth your time.


I guess I'll give her a few days, see if she talks to me and go from there. If she doesn't reach out to me....then back to my seemingly fruitless search for love.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 05:07:07
August 13 2016 05:06 GMT
#17405
On August 13 2016 11:16 Zooper31 wrote:
Haven't posted in this thread in like 2yrs.

Non-existent atm. I just live my life and if someone comes along worth spending time with then I can dig it, content with how things are though as well. Though what prompted me to post here is a random Tinder interaction.

We matched, and then chatted for a bit last night. We both laughed, shared some mutual interests, had a real conversation about the Olympics and how we both seemed to be each others type. I ask a random question today after my shift at work about how she said she was a Batman nerd (I'm a huge Batman nerd myself, wanted to gauge her interest and see if she was a faker or not lol). I then randomly get deleted... I mean fuck me right? Okay... I guess I didn't ask her if she was dtf fast enough or what idk lmao.

Anyway moving on! Not too bothered by it, just seemed kinda weird...


Did you do one of those things where guys assume girls fake their interest in a niche subject to be cool? My neighbour was telling me about a time a guy told her to name 10 Drake songs because she said she likes Drake, then got mad at her when she couldn't do it offhand. If you do that, it's douchey. If you didn't do that, I don't know.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 05:14:58
August 13 2016 05:14 GMT
#17406
On August 13 2016 14:06 WarSame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 11:16 Zooper31 wrote:
Haven't posted in this thread in like 2yrs.

Non-existent atm. I just live my life and if someone comes along worth spending time with then I can dig it, content with how things are though as well. Though what prompted me to post here is a random Tinder interaction.

We matched, and then chatted for a bit last night. We both laughed, shared some mutual interests, had a real conversation about the Olympics and how we both seemed to be each others type. I ask a random question today after my shift at work about how she said she was a Batman nerd (I'm a huge Batman nerd myself, wanted to gauge her interest and see if she was a faker or not lol). I then randomly get deleted... I mean fuck me right? Okay... I guess I didn't ask her if she was dtf fast enough or what idk lmao.

Anyway moving on! Not too bothered by it, just seemed kinda weird...


Did you do one of those things where guys assume girls fake their interest in a niche subject to be cool? My neighbour was telling me about a time a guy told her to name 10 Drake songs because she said she likes Drake, then got mad at her when she couldn't do it offhand. If you do that, it's douchey. If you didn't do that, I don't know.


I told a funny story and she seemed genuinely happy and said that "omg get out that's fking hilarious, I would've died"

I mean I just asked, "so tinder apparently says the only thing we have in common is Batman haha" Literally deleted me like 4hours later randomly. We talked for idk like an hour last night before trailing off when I went to sleep. I wouldn't quiz her on Batman lmao, I'm definitely not that guy. Was just trying to make some small talk.

Anyway, apparently Tinder bugged out? She randomly responded to me and popped back up in my list with no profile picture. We've been talking again for awhile (She has Batman tat's, think I found my girl).

tldr: Tinder app bugged out and made me think this girl was a dick. All's good in dah hood.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
August 13 2016 05:33 GMT
#17407
why would you want batman on your body forever
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-13 05:47:18
August 13 2016 05:45 GMT
#17408
On August 13 2016 00:31 levelping wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2016 20:39 LemOn wrote:
On August 12 2016 08:58 levelping wrote:
Lemon I know you're coming with good intentions, but really don't strawman what I'm saying.

First, our ages was just one of the reasons I thought we should try dating. Obviously it's the only, or even the main reason. Second, I never said I'm not able to meet people. Just that it gets more difficult as you grow older and most people are attached already.

I fully understand the need to stay positive and self motivated in these things, but some realism is healthy too. I acknowledge the practical difficulties that come with having more time commitments, and figure out how to work around that.

I'm trying to prove a point here

You have shown no reasons to be with her whatsoever, a person you want to be in a relationship with should knock your socks off in the first phases, you should both be putting in loads of effort and loving it. It doesn't get any easier really afterwards, starting in mediocrity seems almost crazy to me, and is why there's so many divorces with people that were incompatible in the first place.

When you're unsure about her even before you start dating AND she not only doesn't put in active effort towards a romantic relation but flat out rejects you it's way better to be okay with staying alone and focus on yourself and being awesome. And keep her as a friend, which should have way more value to you.

Or if it really bothers you and you really do feel the strong need for quality relationships then be realistic, allocate resources to finding someone you really really want and who wants you back - meeting a suitable long term partner that'll influence you in a big way for literally decades can easily be a time commitment priority, around which you try to work around (or drop) the other stuff


I think if you had the chance to read my preceeding posts, you'd have seen that I am going to regard her as a friend, and if she wants to rekindle anything down the road that's for her prerogative (and which I have no control over anyway). I've also mentioned that I set aside time to meet people. Again, I would appreciate that you don't assume that it's at the bottom of my priority list.

So you do not really need to prove points which are in my own posts. These are truisms that are inherently applicable, and I'd have thought there is not very much value in mentioning things which are so trite. Giving you the benefit of the doubt though, perhaps you were too busy to read everything, I appreciate the effort.



hi levelping, just wanted to offer some perspective from a fellow Singaporean.(for how much its worth)
From reading your posts and putting myself in your shoes, remember that it could have been much worst.
She could have totally ignored you. She could already be seeing someone.
Or if you're that much of a stoic sage, even you could have never met her and this wanting for her not existed.
My point, be appreciative of your former experiences with her even if it doesn't amount to anything in the future. You will also find that you derive more delight from your interactions with her as a result.

You're right when you say that whether or not she ever wants something more is something that's you have no control over. We should therefore not concern ourselves with these things. However you can also see it as something which we have some but not complete control over.

With respects to these things, we should internalize the goals we form with them.
i.e. in your case, internalizing it could mean trying to date her and showing her why you're the man for her to the best of your ability. (This is something internal over which you've complete control)

As compared to an external goal would be whether she becomes your girlfriend or not.

Since the goal was not simply whether or not she becomes your girlfriend or not, even if in the future she says no, you will not have failed to attain your goal, as long as you've tried your best. Your tranquility will thus not be disrupted.
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-14 00:51:50
August 13 2016 13:32 GMT
#17409
On August 13 2016 14:45 kaykaykay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 00:31 levelping wrote:
On August 12 2016 20:39 LemOn wrote:
On August 12 2016 08:58 levelping wrote:
Lemon I know you're coming with good intentions, but really don't strawman what I'm saying.

First, our ages was just one of the reasons I thought we should try dating. Obviously it's the only, or even the main reason. Second, I never said I'm not able to meet people. Just that it gets more difficult as you grow older and most people are attached already.

I fully understand the need to stay positive and self motivated in these things, but some realism is healthy too. I acknowledge the practical difficulties that come with having more time commitments, and figure out how to work around that.

I'm trying to prove a point here

You have shown no reasons to be with her whatsoever, a person you want to be in a relationship with should knock your socks off in the first phases, you should both be putting in loads of effort and loving it. It doesn't get any easier really afterwards, starting in mediocrity seems almost crazy to me, and is why there's so many divorces with people that were incompatible in the first place.

When you're unsure about her even before you start dating AND she not only doesn't put in active effort towards a romantic relation but flat out rejects you it's way better to be okay with staying alone and focus on yourself and being awesome. And keep her as a friend, which should have way more value to you.

Or if it really bothers you and you really do feel the strong need for quality relationships then be realistic, allocate resources to finding someone you really really want and who wants you back - meeting a suitable long term partner that'll influence you in a big way for literally decades can easily be a time commitment priority, around which you try to work around (or drop) the other stuff


I think if you had the chance to read my preceeding posts, you'd have seen that I am going to regard her as a friend, and if she wants to rekindle anything down the road that's for her prerogative (and which I have no control over anyway). I've also mentioned that I set aside time to meet people. Again, I would appreciate that you don't assume that it's at the bottom of my priority list.

So you do not really need to prove points which are in my own posts. These are truisms that are inherently applicable, and I'd have thought there is not very much value in mentioning things which are so trite. Giving you the benefit of the doubt though, perhaps you were too busy to read everything, I appreciate the effort.



hi levelping, just wanted to offer some perspective from a fellow Singaporean.(for how much its worth)
From reading your posts and putting myself in your shoes, remember that it could have been much worst.
She could have totally ignored you. She could already be seeing someone.
Or if you're that much of a stoic sage, even you could have never met her and this wanting for her not existed.
My point, be appreciative of your former experiences with her even if it doesn't amount to anything in the future. You will also find that you derive more delight from your interactions with her as a result.

You're right when you say that whether or not she ever wants something more is something that's you have no control over. We should therefore not concern ourselves with these things. However you can also see it as something which we have some but not complete control over.

With respects to these things, we should internalize the goals we form with them.
i.e. in your case, internalizing it could mean trying to date her and showing her why you're the man for her to the best of your ability. (This is something internal over which you've complete control)

As compared to an external goal would be whether she becomes your girlfriend or not.

Since the goal was not simply whether or not she becomes your girlfriend or not, even if in the future she says no, you will not have failed to attain your goal, as long as you've tried your best. Your tranquility will thus not be disrupted.


Hi K(3),

Actually it's great to hear from another Singaporean. But first here's an obligatory Joseph Schooling shout out - today's a great day to be +65.

I actually mirror your thoughts quite a bit. When I write here (especially in this thread) I know that there is quite a bit of culture clash, and so I generally leave out Singaporean nuances that might seem weird to people.

So as one Singaporean to another, I think that yes, it is a lot more common and socially acceptable in Singapore for relationships to straddle a grey zone between friends and romantic partners. Many of my friends who are now married met and dated that way. So I generally do not find advice like "cut her out of your life, your deserve better!" very useful. Anyway, Singapore is so small that it's impossible to cut anyone out.

What I am doing now is to just improve myself, and "upgrade" a bit. Spend yesterday thinking of things I could improve in my life, and I've got some mid-year resolutions to see to now. Maybe she'll reconsider (I feel like this happens a lot more in Singapore), or maybe down the road I might feel like there's enough romance between us to ask again. Though really all that is in the future. In the meanwhile, I'm focusing on improvement, and enjoying spending time with her now and then as a friend.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
August 15 2016 05:48 GMT
#17410
Officially Single
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8865 Posts
August 15 2016 06:21 GMT
#17411
yeah my latest relationship has pretty much broken down also.
she was an acquaintance for ~1.5years before we started hanging out much more often starting maybe 2 months ago. i asked her out pretty much right away and we gave it a shot despite our schedules being totally shit and having to hide the fact that were dating for various reasons.
anyways now im like 1 and a half months in and im realising that my feelings for her just arent that strong. she was great as a friend and shes still very fun to hang out with and talk, but whatever romantic feelings i had for her at the start have pretty much disappeared and i want to stop here before anything gets too serious and i dont wanna just keep her around for the sake of it either.
the only problem is she is far more invested into this relationship than i am (its pretty obvious), and in korean culture 'casual' dating is pretty frowned upon. i think if this was a white girl and i broke it off now the whole debacle would be pretty smooth and wed maybe even stay friends, but with this girl i think shes going to take it a lot harder and probably think of me as a massive dickhead for not even lasting a couple of months with her.
what sucks is its not even that i dont like her. theres nothing about her that was really a nono for me and just turned me off completely, its just that to me she feels more like a platonic friend than a girlfriend. this is a pretty shitty way to justify breaking up with someone after i made the first move to ask her out less than 2 months ago, especially since shes committed to the relationship.
gg no re
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45937 Posts
August 15 2016 06:33 GMT
#17412
On August 15 2016 14:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Officially Single


I'm sorry to hear that/ Congratulations!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 15 2016 07:39 GMT
#17413
YAY! We have two more people who will regurarly post dating stories for our amusement!
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 07:46:35
August 15 2016 07:44 GMT
#17414
Well, had the first "date" in probably 6 years yesterday evening, though I'm not sure whether it classifies as a real date.

Matched with her on tinder at 5pm, 3 messages later I asked whether she wanted to continue the chat over a coffee, because I don't like the whole messaging thing, she said she doesn't like it either and asked when I have time. I responded with a few options which included yesterday and she went for yesterday 8pm, so my lazy Sunday in front of the PC binge watching John Oliver ended with me going out and having a chat with a nice woman. Since it wasn't really planned and was only an hour long since we both had to work the next day it doesn't really count as a date for me, but it's probably still the closest thing I've been to in the last 6 years. I even took the time to iron my favorite shirt. Essentially, the "date" was just a short coffee and then a walk along her favorite streets, so nothing too fancy, but at least I managed to keep the conversation active.

Not that happy that she's even two years older than me, but then again as a mid thirty such minor age differences become less important. At least she earns her own money and doesn't have children, which is a major plus. I also like that I feel big next to her even as a small (1.75m, 5ft 9in) guy. I don't know whether it's perception or evolution, but women all seem to be much taller than me these days, which isn't that great for the old self confidence, especially when they then also say they are looking for large men.

Have to see how it develops from here. I suggested we meet on Tuesday since the weather is supposed to finally be sunny again then, but since there is a crunchtime at her work at the moment she might not have the time. It's also hard to tell how interested she really was since she was very tired, so maybe nothing will come out of it.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 09:09:24
August 15 2016 09:07 GMT
#17415
I don't know whether it's perception or evolution, but women all seem to be much taller than me these days, which isn't that great for the old self confidence, especially when they then also say they are looking for large men.

Have you seen the US olympic gymnastics team? She's 145 cm (4 " 8). I was watching with my father and we were mesmerized and amazed by their skills, but then he stood up and exclaimed: "she's a dwarf!" (not politically correct, I know), -- as if that was sufficient explanation.

By the way, I'm taller than virtually everyone I know (should have gotten into basketball >.< ), so that now the occasional very tall person frightens me, they look like giants to me even if they are only slightly taller. It's especially bad if they're female.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
August 15 2016 10:50 GMT
#17416
I once dated a 6'3 Asian-American girl for a few weeks. Given that I'm 6'2, we were almost always the tallest couple in the room. That was fun
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
August 15 2016 10:58 GMT
#17417
On August 15 2016 16:44 Morfildur wrote:
Well, had the first "date" in probably 6 years yesterday evening, though I'm not sure whether it classifies as a real date.

Matched with her on tinder at 5pm, 3 messages later I asked whether she wanted to continue the chat over a coffee, because I don't like the whole messaging thing, she said she doesn't like it either and asked when I have time. I responded with a few options which included yesterday and she went for yesterday 8pm, so my lazy Sunday in front of the PC binge watching John Oliver ended with me going out and having a chat with a nice woman. Since it wasn't really planned and was only an hour long since we both had to work the next day it doesn't really count as a date for me, but it's probably still the closest thing I've been to in the last 6 years. I even took the time to iron my favorite shirt. Essentially, the "date" was just a short coffee and then a walk along her favorite streets, so nothing too fancy, but at least I managed to keep the conversation active.

Not that happy that she's even two years older than me, but then again as a mid thirty such minor age differences become less important. At least she earns her own money and doesn't have children, which is a major plus. I also like that I feel big next to her even as a small (1.75m, 5ft 9in) guy. I don't know whether it's perception or evolution, but women all seem to be much taller than me these days, which isn't that great for the old self confidence, especially when they then also say they are looking for large men.

Have to see how it develops from here. I suggested we meet on Tuesday since the weather is supposed to finally be sunny again then, but since there is a crunchtime at her work at the moment she might not have the time. It's also hard to tell how interested she really was since she was very tired, so maybe nothing will come out of it.


Look at it as a working adult. If someone takes time out of the usual work schedule to see you, she's probably interested at some level. If she shows up on Tuesday despite crunch, she's clearly making an effort for you.

Btw make your favourite shirt a wrinkle free one!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-15 12:03:28
August 15 2016 12:00 GMT
#17418
On August 15 2016 16:44 Morfildur wrote:
Well, had the first "date" in probably 6 years yesterday evening, though I'm not sure whether it classifies as a real date.

Matched with her on tinder at 5pm, 3 messages later I asked whether she wanted to continue the chat over a coffee, because I don't like the whole messaging thing, she said she doesn't like it either and asked when I have time. I responded with a few options which included yesterday and she went for yesterday 8pm, so my lazy Sunday in front of the PC binge watching John Oliver ended with me going out and having a chat with a nice woman. Since it wasn't really planned and was only an hour long since we both had to work the next day it doesn't really count as a date for me, but it's probably still the closest thing I've been to in the last 6 years. I even took the time to iron my favorite shirt. Essentially, the "date" was just a short coffee and then a walk along her favorite streets, so nothing too fancy, but at least I managed to keep the conversation active.

Not that happy that she's even two years older than me, but then again as a mid thirty such minor age differences become less important. At least she earns her own money and doesn't have children, which is a major plus. I also like that I feel big next to her even as a small (1.75m, 5ft 9in) guy. I don't know whether it's perception or evolution, but women all seem to be much taller than me these days, which isn't that great for the old self confidence, especially when they then also say they are looking for large men.

Have to see how it develops from here. I suggested we meet on Tuesday since the weather is supposed to finally be sunny again then, but since there is a crunchtime at her work at the moment she might not have the time. It's also hard to tell how interested she really was since she was very tired, so maybe nothing will come out of it.

I'd take Tuesday off the table and put in on her to tell you when she's free personally
That way you respect your own time and show it, won't force her to meet you when she's stressed/tired with work, and find out if she really sees you positively which is a big thing to have as if she does, she'll make the time and give you a firm date.

And yeah, nice work by the way - a date like this is a very good approach off of online dating, that's what us kids do these days - a safe no strings attached short meeting with easy exit to see if you click and show chemistry/signs of interest. So was a few messages and suggesting a meetup.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 15 2016 13:11 GMT
#17419
On August 15 2016 19:50 farvacola wrote:
I once dated a 6'3 Asian-American girl for a few weeks. Given that I'm 6'2, we were almost always the tallest couple in the room. That was fun

They should not be allowed to have such shitty music. And fuck, she is a fucking monster, as in beefcake. She is HUUUGE.
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Last Edited: 2016-08-15 13:43:37
August 15 2016 13:42 GMT
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I missed a wing man yesterday :/.

I'm on holiday at Malta and was out clubbing yesterday. This girl starts talking with me (doesn't happen often when a girl takes the initiative). She's pretty small but her body was perfect with full boobs and ass. A solid 8/10 for me. Pretty loud in there so we go outside to talk. I grab her hand and tale her out. While talkibg I put my hand on her back and afterwards on her ass. She obviously likes it. Was planning on taking her to the beach. This girl basically got dropped in my lap on a silver platter.
Suddenly her friend comes in and cock blocks hard :/. All I could do was bring her to the bus and give a little kiss on her mouth. Luckily I got hwr number and she is Dutch so I'm sure we'll meet sone time.

Out of frustration I went to a techno club with all the druggies of Malta and danced like a madman.
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