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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 15 2016 17:57 GMT
#17421
Man Malta is full of fit dutch grills idk why i met two different ones when we were there competing few years back. First one taught me how to say jij bent lekker so i used it the other night.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 15 2016 18:14 GMT
#17422
On August 15 2016 19:50 farvacola wrote:
I once dated a 6'3 Asian-American girl for a few weeks. Given that I'm 6'2, we were almost always the tallest couple in the room. That was fun


Damn, I'm feeling pretty jelly right now.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
August 15 2016 19:05 GMT
#17423
On August 13 2016 12:15 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2016 12:09 SK.Testie wrote:
Maybe she's flaky, nervous, worried, self-conscious or scared.

I would just call her on it and tell her there's really no need to be nervous (or ask her, "you're not cancelling because you're nervous, right? If you have a big fat pimple I really don't care". Then if she showed up with a pimple, tell her you lied. You do care and that the date was a mistake. Seems like a pretty simple solution.

In all seriousness though if she cancelled twice, it's up to you whether to give her one more chance. And if she breaks that chance, from then on she must do all the lifting to get the next date because you've lost enough interest and are skeptical of whether she's worth your time.


I guess I'll give her a few days, see if she talks to me and go from there. If she doesn't reach out to me....then back to my seemingly fruitless search for love.


Take it from me man, its better to not chase now than wind up like me being semi friend/lover to your ex...
People call me Jack, OMASJack
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6303 Posts
August 16 2016 09:36 GMT
#17424
On August 16 2016 02:57 Skynx wrote:
Man Malta is full of fit dutch grills idk why i met two different ones when we were there competing few years back. First one taught me how to say jij bent lekker so i used it the other night.

We have these travel agencies specifically for youngsters who wwnt to go clubbing. A lot of people use these and Malta is getting an increasingly popular destination (with good reason). When we arrived here we were literally with a group of 5 men and 15+ women and they all want to have sex. Pretty crazy.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
August 17 2016 02:47 GMT
#17425
On August 15 2016 22:42 RvB wrote:
I missed a wing man yesterday :/.

I'm on holiday at Malta and was out clubbing yesterday. This girl starts talking with me (doesn't happen often when a girl takes the initiative). She's pretty small but her body was perfect with full boobs and ass. A solid 8/10 for me. Pretty loud in there so we go outside to talk. I grab her hand and tale her out. While talkibg I put my hand on her back and afterwards on her ass. She obviously likes it. Was planning on taking her to the beach. This girl basically got dropped in my lap on a silver platter.
Suddenly her friend comes in and cock blocks hard :/. All I could do was bring her to the bus and give a little kiss on her mouth. Luckily I got hwr number and she is Dutch so I'm sure we'll meet sone time.

Out of frustration I went to a techno club with all the druggies of Malta and danced like a madman.

We need to chill Xp
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
August 18 2016 14:53 GMT
#17426
So I'm getting jaded to the point where I'm wondering if there is something wrong with my brain.

When I was 18 or so I had a relationship with someone that due to whatever cheated on me (as I found out later) like 4 or 5 times. This was followed by a period of 5 years of so where I was dating but always keeping my distance and occasionally being a jerk.

At 25 or 26 I got into what I would call my second serious attempt at a relationship, and it was another trainwreck due to a variety of reasons (not sure if she cheated on me as well but this was turning out to be a rabbit hole that I was not willing to go down in).

After that I actually met 2 really awesome women. One I met when she was still dating a guy I vaguely know and I remember thinking he was one lucky SOB. Such an awesome girl. Like a month or 2 later she randomly invited me for dinner to discuss something related to work (we both work in related industries) so it seemed innocent enough. Still not sure how it happened but we turned out having sex that night and we were seeing each other on and off for several months after that.

The other girl I met on a night out with mutual friends. This girl ticked off so many boxes on the "awesome characteristics" list. Social, smart, well spoken, nerdy interests, and although by no means an alcoholic still someone that stands her own with a bottle. Well me and my dumb drunk ass ended up having sex with her on the first night of meeting her as well (DERP). We hung out the next day and it all was pretty nice. Didn't see her for a long time after that until we ran into each other at another mutual acquaintance's birthday party. Hung out a bit more that night and she ditched me in a bar (as it turns out because she didn't want it to end up like the first night we met). We had one more date after that but although I honestly had a good time I couldn't bring myself to pursue contact after that.

All that was a bit less than a year ago. Dated a dozen of women after that but the real realization came after having a drink today with a girl tonight: I honestly couldn't bring myself to give a fuck anymore. I vaguely feel like I fucked up with the last two girls I described but that's it.

When I was having a drink with a girl recently she mentioned how another guy she had been on a date with whom she really liked got upset and broke of all contact when he found out she went for a drink with another guy. All I could say is that I would expect nothing less and that I honestly couldn't care less.

That's kinda fucked up right?
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 18 2016 19:11 GMT
#17427
On August 18 2016 23:53 B.I.G. wrote:When I was having a drink with a girl recently she mentioned how another guy she had been on a date with whom she really liked got upset and broke of all contact when he found out she went for a drink with another guy. All I could say is that I would expect nothing less and that I honestly couldn't care less.

That's kinda fucked up right?

I don't think that is so fucked up. As long as she wasn't having sex with both of us I wouldn't think it was that bad. Of course I would move on if she talked about the other guy all the time.

"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
August 18 2016 21:45 GMT
#17428
On August 19 2016 04:11 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 23:53 B.I.G. wrote:When I was having a drink with a girl recently she mentioned how another guy she had been on a date with whom she really liked got upset and broke of all contact when he found out she went for a drink with another guy. All I could say is that I would expect nothing less and that I honestly couldn't care less.

That's kinda fucked up right?

I don't think that is so fucked up. As long as she wasn't having sex with both of us I wouldn't think it was that bad. Of course I would move on if she talked about the other guy all the time.


Not the point bro
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-19 00:11:40
August 19 2016 00:10 GMT
#17429
You remind me of many women in their late 20's BIG.
P.S. I prefer to avoid dating women in their late 20's. But I think it's pretty normal for your age.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 19 2016 07:07 GMT
#17430
On August 19 2016 06:45 B.I.G. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2016 04:11 bloodwhore~ wrote:
On August 18 2016 23:53 B.I.G. wrote:When I was having a drink with a girl recently she mentioned how another guy she had been on a date with whom she really liked got upset and broke of all contact when he found out she went for a drink with another guy. All I could say is that I would expect nothing less and that I honestly couldn't care less.

That's kinda fucked up right?

I don't think that is so fucked up. As long as she wasn't having sex with both of us I wouldn't think it was that bad. Of course I would move on if she talked about the other guy all the time.


Not the point bro

Then what was your point? That you didn't give a fuck about the girl you dated? Just seems to me that you were not that interested in her from the start.

Do you think you would have been equally indifferent towards her if she was one of the two amazing women you dated?
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-31 20:40:28
August 19 2016 13:25 GMT
#17431
Been using Tinder for about a year. I probably left-swiped around 500 women, got about 10 matches, actually started talking to about 5 and last week finally had a date with one of them. I thought the date went well but she doesn't write me back anymore. I also talked to women I met at the gym since last year and made some new friends, but that's it.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-19 13:40:56
August 19 2016 13:35 GMT
#17432
My point was that I started to expect nothing less from any woman than to bang as many dudes as she can at the same time. This in combination with the hard time I'm having with feeling any emotional connection with women I've dated as of late got me a bit worried about my state of mind.

I kinda started appreciating the girls I mentioned more and more after everything was said and done.

Hence the question, kinda fucked up right? ;P

@Lemon I am 28 now so I guess that makes sense? Usually date girls that are kinda similar to my age or a bit older.

@Crocolisk Dunee I guess you can motivate yourself with the knowledge that getting a woman is easy but getting one that you want to keep is hard for anyone. In the end its a numbers game so keep trying.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
August 19 2016 13:51 GMT
#17433
On August 19 2016 22:35 B.I.G. wrote:
My point was that I started to expect nothing less from any woman than to bang as many dudes as she can at the same time. This in combination with the hard time I'm having with feeling any emotional connection with women I've dated as of late got me a bit worried about my state of mind.


Are you browsing redpill forums by any chance?
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
August 19 2016 13:59 GMT
#17434
@B.I.G. Getting a woman has never been easy for me. I used to be a shy teenager and still lack self-confidence when it comes to dating. I am not even thinking about long-term relationships. For the last couple of years, I just wanted to get more dating experience.

Thinking of it as a numbers game is a helpful thought. At the same time, I find it difficult to cope with disappointment after disappointment and no success. I have tried for so long.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
August 19 2016 14:01 GMT
#17435
I can honestly say I have never even heard of those forums..
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
August 19 2016 15:24 GMT
#17436
On August 19 2016 22:35 B.I.G. wrote:
My point was that I started to expect nothing less from any woman than to bang as many dudes as she can at the same time. This in combination with the hard time I'm having with feeling any emotional connection with women I've dated as of late got me a bit worried about my state of mind.

I kinda started appreciating the girls I mentioned more and more after everything was said and done.

Hence the question, kinda fucked up right? ;P

@Lemon I am 28 now so I guess that makes sense? Usually date girls that are kinda similar to my age or a bit older.

@Crocolisk Dunee I guess you can motivate yourself with the knowledge that getting a woman is easy but getting one that you want to keep is hard for anyone. In the end its a numbers game so keep trying.


I think it's a deeper problem than just "dating." Once people get out of college and start working, especially in cities, it becomes harder to connect with new people to the same depth that they connected with their friends in college and before. It certainly doesn't come as easily, and for a variety of socially structured reasons it leads to the impression that most new connections are superficial. So it's totally understandable that if you found some women you really connected with that you would regret losing those nodes in your social network. I don't really know what to tell you except to try and increase your throughput while using a more selective filter. If your prospective date doesn't know what the word "anomie" means, for example, you can pretty confidently move on without worrying about a missed opportunity.

Btw, this whole idea of "sleeping with someone on the first date ruins the chances of a relationship" is total bullshit. That's not why it didn't work between you and the amazing girl.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
August 19 2016 21:47 GMT
#17437
About 8 months ago I met this girl at a friends Party, we've never had contact except when we met in groups, since we have the same friends. About three or four weeks ago she started texting me out of nowhere, sent me pics, wanted to chat etc. I thought that this was a clear sign of interest, she offered me to cook at my place which I gladly accepted. That was on tuesday, we had a great evening and our second date was today. She wanted to see suicide squad and have dinner with me, she even cancelled a meeting with one of iur friends to be with me.
We watched the movie, ate sth, had some good laughs... I kissed her and suddenly she told me, that this is not what she wanted, shes not Sure if this is a good idea etc. I told her that Im okay with that, we talked on for 1.5 hours, had a great evening.
i just Got home and already recieved another measage from her....

Not quite sure where this is going...
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 19 2016 22:05 GMT
#17438
On August 19 2016 22:35 B.I.G. wrote:
My point was that I started to expect nothing less from any woman than to bang as many dudes as she can at the same time. This in combination with the hard time I'm having with feeling any emotional connection with women I've dated as of late got me a bit worried about my state of mind.

I kinda started appreciating the girls I mentioned more and more after everything was said and done.

Hence the question, kinda fucked up right? ;P

@Lemon I am 28 now so I guess that makes sense? Usually date girls that are kinda similar to my age or a bit older.

@Crocolisk Dunee I guess you can motivate yourself with the knowledge that getting a woman is easy but getting one that you want to keep is hard for anyone. In the end its a numbers game so keep trying.

I mean I avoid the because at least the attractive successful ones usually had a few failed relationships, lost their illusions and willingness to take risks and plunge into something new yet at the same time haven't figured everything out and aren't at peace with how things are and what they want.

It's a strange period in life. But the after 30 the ones that are single usually start understanding themselves better, and just go realistically directly after what they want.

Maybe you're going through something similar, all I'd say is as long as you're getting new experiences and are aware of what you want it'll eventually sort itself out
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 04:28:12
August 20 2016 04:26 GMT
#17439
Posted couple days ago about girl I was talking to.

Things went well, talks for a few more days. Exchanged numbers, talked more over text. I asked to meet up over some drinks this weekend, a date. She agreed, and we decided on a place we both knew.

Stood up...

I was really excited about this too, first date I've had (or would've had) in years.

Back to not caring about being in a relationship. Single life can get lonely sometimes though.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 20 2016 09:16 GMT
#17440
On August 20 2016 13:26 Zooper31 wrote:
Posted couple days ago about girl I was talking to.

Things went well, talks for a few more days. Exchanged numbers, talked more over text. I asked to meet up over some drinks this weekend, a date. She agreed, and we decided on a place we both knew.

Stood up...

I was really excited about this too, first date I've had (or would've had) in years.

Back to not caring about being in a relationship. Single life can get lonely sometimes though.

Dude, don't take rejection and go full turtle mode. It sucks getting stood up, however not everyone does that, get back on that horse!
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
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