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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
June 01 2014 11:26 GMT
#9581
On June 01 2014 20:05 arb wrote:
Ok, so a while back(about a month or so ago) my Asian friend whom i met online and we hung out cuddled/had sex etc etc creeped on my twitter and saw like a comment or two from me being negative about shit we talked about(totally harmless venting and shit) and got real mad and now i think she hates me :<

I was real douchey about the entire thing when she told me to just tell her shit in the future(not really douchey but didnt apologize) then she promptly deletes me from fb and says some mean things.
Recently it has sunk in that i fucked up and really want to make her not mad at me again but i am totally unsure of how to do this.
Whats the best way to suck up and get her to be friends with me again D:.

I have texted her a couple times since but she only responded to like one and said she had a boyfriend(which was totes bullshit) and the other time i cant even remember what i said so that ones up in the air.

how to fix?

There are two possible ways to fix this:
a) Make up for it BIG time.
b) Move on mentally, that means do not try to contact or reach her.

Option a) will work, but has the disadvantage that you've just given away big junks of your manhood.
Option b) may or may not work, but since you've moved on, who cares.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
June 01 2014 11:31 GMT
#9582
Given the overreaction your described, I'd go with urboss' option b). The fact she discovered that by creeping on your twitter doesn't help...
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 01 2014 12:30 GMT
#9583
On June 01 2014 20:26 urboss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 20:05 arb wrote:
Ok, so a while back(about a month or so ago) my Asian friend whom i met online and we hung out cuddled/had sex etc etc creeped on my twitter and saw like a comment or two from me being negative about shit we talked about(totally harmless venting and shit) and got real mad and now i think she hates me :<

I was real douchey about the entire thing when she told me to just tell her shit in the future(not really douchey but didnt apologize) then she promptly deletes me from fb and says some mean things.
Recently it has sunk in that i fucked up and really want to make her not mad at me again but i am totally unsure of how to do this.
Whats the best way to suck up and get her to be friends with me again D:.

I have texted her a couple times since but she only responded to like one and said she had a boyfriend(which was totes bullshit) and the other time i cant even remember what i said so that ones up in the air.

how to fix?

There are two possible ways to fix this:
a) Make up for it BIG time.
b) Move on mentally, that means do not try to contact or reach her.

Option a) will work, but has the disadvantage that you've just given away big junks of your manhood.
Option b) may or may not work, but since you've moved on, who cares.

How would you go about making it up to her though?

On June 01 2014 20:31 Cynry wrote:
Given the overreaction your described, I'd go with urboss' option b). The fact she discovered that by creeping on your twitter doesn't help...


I expressly told her i use my twitter just to rage about shit that pisses me off, so i don't blow a gasket irl or yell at anyone or anything, so i mean like my friend told me when i described the situation "the consequences of creeping is finding out shit you didn't want to find out"
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B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
June 01 2014 13:55 GMT
#9584
She probably isn't mad at you just really turned off/dissapointed/disgusted. You are being two faced which is a very nasty habit. If I was having a good time with a person who turns out to hate the stuff he or she pretended to like I would probably react the same way.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 01 2014 14:05 GMT
#9585
On June 01 2014 22:55 B.I.G. wrote:
She probably isn't mad at you just really turned off/dissapointed/disgusted. You are being two faced which is a very nasty habit. If I was having a good time with a person who turns out to hate the stuff he or she pretended to like I would probably react the same way.

You'd take someone off your facebook?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 15:26:50
June 01 2014 14:37 GMT
#9586
On May 31 2014 02:29 Cynry wrote:
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On May 31 2014 02:11 Xiphos wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:34 Cynry wrote:
On May 31 2014 01:09 Xiphos wrote:
On May 31 2014 00:35 Cynry wrote:
On May 31 2014 00:25 Xiphos wrote:
On May 31 2014 00:21 chadissilent wrote:
On May 30 2014 13:59 Xiphos wrote:
On May 30 2014 12:52 NewSunshine wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:22 chadissilent wrote:
There are different kinds of intelligence. Having a good math grade doesn't make you intelligent, it makes you good at math. Social intelligence/awareness is as important, or even more important, than technical intelligence. People that come across as dumb or aloof may well be totally aware of everything but are filtering out what they deem unimportant. This allows them to be more "in the moment" as a result of their efficient filtering rather than "picking up girls because they're dumb."

Exactly, you can be intelligent as a person, very much so, and one facet of that intelligence can be knowing how to carry yourself in social circumstances, and it can come from experience. Mentally holding back in certain ways, because you're aware that the alternative makes you prone to being awkward or off-putting, can be a skill that serves one quite well.

The cliffnotes of all this crap, I guess, is just be yourself and don't overthink it. Basically what everyone since the beginning of time keeps saying. But for some it takes practice, perhaps even everyone. It also takes perspective.


So if you are currently living in your mother basement, have a beer bully, no job or in the process of educating yourself for a profession and having egregious hygiene; you should just "be yourself"?

You gotta at least make yourself presentable and be able to have enough survival skills to make it your own.

Its a ladder that you need to constantly climb in order to upgrade yourself.

That's not being yourself, that's being a lazy piece of shit. You don't have to pretend to be someone else to get off your ass, go for a run, and take a shower.


Being yourself = stay in the current state.

It should be be the best version of yourself. If you are not confident, don't continue to fail by doing the same thing as before, change it up.

So you gotta always be willing to change yourself for the better. "Be yourself" is kind of like the worst advice you can ever give someone because you are unwilling to truly get to the depth of the person's failure thus end up hurting him in the long run.


That's not how I see the "be yourself" advice. It is not about staying the same, but stopping to pay attention to thoughts like "what will people think of me if I do/say X". It's doing stuff for you, because you want them, and not because you feel obligated to do them for a reason.
Although you are not wrong (improving oneself is something more people should thrive for), you don't give the idea of being yourself enough credit/thinking imo.

Edit : just read some posts above, and I disagree about being different kind of intelligence. Saying that is mixing talent and intelligence, which are different things, although they can express themselves in similar ways at the superficial level.


Say that you want to get X amount of money in order to Y and Z things. You find that you need to do A and/or B and/or C in order to achieve your goal. But however those task requires a lot of effort to pull it off which average human wouldn't do. So in order to get what you want, you have to do things that you don't want to do but you have to do them for long term success.

"Being yourself" only works if you are an already successful, well-made, and charismatic man. Everything requires a premise to set it up. That's like saying "Oh I want to pull off the Bisu build....but I don't want to practice any of that high multitasking 300 APM StarCraft..."

So yeah "being yourself", "works". Only for the few people up there on the top. But for the majority of the people, its a terrible advice.


That's a very different situation from what I was thinking though, maybe I didn't make myself clear.
I guess the misinterpretated part was "doing stuff because you want it, not because you feel obligated to do so".
I wasn't talking about how you achieve your goals (which, by the way, are things you want to achieve, what you are talking about is how people hierarchize their goals, different story), but how you act in your everyday life.

Let's give some exemples.
When one feels the need to seduce woman, is it because he desires it, or because he wants to fit into the HE-MAN heterosexual norm ?
When he is being nice to them, is it because that is how he feels about people in general, or does he feel obligated to treat women as princess ?

Maybe not the best exemples, I tried to stay on topic, but I hope my point is clearer now.

From a more personal perspective, being myself was stoping to act around what I thought people were expecting of me, so this is what I understand when people gives that advice. Now, I realise only giving this advice without explanations doesn't do much good, and in no way it contradicts the fact that I try to get better at being myself everyday (because it is something that I want).


The way I see is that people change.

Your person of yesterday isn't the same person of today and your person of tomorrow is not the same person of today. So this makes "being yourself" very blurry. Are you trying to be yourself of last week? Last year? 2 years ago? Or currently?

We are constantly changing, evolving, and adapting to the surrounding environment. Sometime when you tried to accomplish a certain thing in a certain method but it doesn't work. So you think of another method. This means you are are changing. And if you are currently making mistakes in your current self and then found a solution, you are in fact, stripping away your old self and reinventing yourself.

I hate to see people getting frustrated because of lack of change. I've personally descended into that madness multiple of time and it was absolutely onerous to escape from its grasp, all because I wasn't constantly on my toes to react properly.


I think we're getting somewhere :D

Seems like you think "being yourself" = "match an idea of yourself" be it of last week, last year, or even an idealistic view of what you should be. None of this is what I would mean if I were to give that advice.
Being yourself, to me, is more about expressing your "true nature", not overthinking stuff, just going with the flow, and most importantly, your flow. Which indeed implies changing, adapting etc. It is not matching a fixed idea, it is stopping to even have ideas about yourself and "just live".

Edit : Dude, maybe stop trying so hard to be right by using the basic meaning of words. "Being yourself" is a concept when used that way, not just the combination of be+you. Going your way it wouldn't even be possible not to be yourself, but that is not what we are talking about here.


On May 31 2014 04:04 Xiphos wrote:
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On May 31 2014 03:59 Cynry wrote:
On May 31 2014 03:50 Xiphos wrote:
On May 31 2014 03:02 Cynry wrote:
That's the post I was refering to with my edit.
I understand your point, and it could be expended into valid a one if you were to tell "calling that "being yourself" is a poor choice of words", but from your post it seems to me that you're just being oblivious to the underlying concept refered to when people say "be yourself".

"Being yourself", at least in definition is simply being complacent.


In definition

Now, forget about the words and their definition, and try to think about the concept that people refers to when using these words. The one I and some others described for almost a whole page now.


Semantic is very important.

The entire concept of being yourself is also bad advice because it reeks of selfish reasons.

When a friend of mine does meth or coke, will I tell him "Oh, just be yourself man." Is that really helping him? No I'm going to talk to him for hours and hours to convince him the long term downside of such habits and then even pay for his therapeutic treatment.

So yeah the advice of "being yourself" is too vague in application. In order to give advice to people, you need to separate every case by case into specific instructions.


I've kind of shyed away from this thread for a long time, there's a lot of bullshit in the dating world and after a long time of taking it a bit more "seriously" and doing it more often, I've realised its better to listen to no one, just make your own mistakes, get over them and figure shit out for yourself .

So why the irony here? Well this one caught my attention because its so prevalent and I think I can be of some help because I feel like the confusion is getting worse, not better.

I'm requoting the older post because it has the post history, but going off the whole "be yourself" thing.

Its important to realise that the definition of "be yourself" is completely useless in this context. Because when people (especially girls) say "be yourself" that's not really what they mean. Its not that they are lying, its that they don't have the words to convey what they really mean.

The expression is what is valuable, but not the definition. Yes "being yourself" figuratively is extremely attractive, but not being yourself literally, I will explain...

When successful guys tell you to be yourself, they are saying that because for them, being themselves is already attractive and it works for them. I totally get that, if you are an attractive human being, then all you have to do is remain being that attractive person and you're set, easy right? And I totally get what its like being on the opposite end of the spectrum as well, that "being yourself" makes no fucking sense.

When girls tell guys "just be yourself" they really do mean it. Perception can often play a big factor in how women will respond, they will often make a lot of assumptions, and will often say things that make sense in their head but not in a guys. So often they think that saying "being yourself" is enough, because they don't want to bore the crap out of you explaining something they think you already understand. Quality over quantity right?

So what do these people mean? It actually means lots of things, but mostly it means have high self esteem.

Anyone with high self-esteem will be super attractive, then it doesn't matter what sort of person you are, people can call you a bum, a douchebag, whatever, you will rake in women. And when girls look at you, they may tell you that you are attractive because you are comfortable with just "being yourself".

I can pretty much guarantee that people who are unsuccessful with women have issues revolving around themselves, however most are oblivious to it, and when pointed out, can often result in retaliation. Although you also have to be careful that much of the time when someone is telling you you have a problem, they can also be wrong and fucking you up even more. I am not telling anyone that they need to be fixed, I am simply putting down what I know.

The rest of my post is really long so ill spoiler it.

+ Show Spoiler +

To someone who struggles with dating, it may feel like a game. Only that you can't ever win, only extend the duration of it, and losing can happen in an instant. It is also a 1vX, because the person you are trying to win over has X people also going for her. Liquipedia is actually full of bullshit, and only a fraction of the community actually knows wtf they are doing. The person you are trying to get, throws obstacles at you every step of the way and will eventually not like you. Each loss hurts like hell, has no chance of a rematch for the rest of your life and will just haunt you for months. Not only that, the longer the game goes, the more it hurts when you lose. And you would totally not play it, if it wasn't for the fact that you were born to play and suffer this game and not participating hurts even more.

So how do we know your self-esteem isn't rock solid?

While the following may be completely normal reactions, just note that the average person is also of average attractiveness. I want to add that this is not something that is necessarily a problem, I just may be exposing things about you that you never saw before.


- Your self-worth is evaluated by external factors
-- Material possessions
-- Your relationships, e.g how hot your girlfriend is
-- Your job, hobbies
-- Your level of ability in these activities
-- How people judge all of the above

- You feel bad when you get teased, rejected
- You get annoyed when you are ignored
- You worry about what to say (fear of repercussion)
- You worry if people are talking about you, judging you
- You are not confident in attracting women
- You have trouble talking to strangers
- You often find yourself exaggerating your own abilities

The list could go on so ill stop here


So if this is something you wish to work on then we need to first look at what we are aiming for, what is a person with "high self-esteem".


- Someone who has an unshakable high feeling of self-worth
- Someone who has strong mental fortitude
- Someone who has next to no social anxieties
- Someone who isn't afraid of or affected by rejection
- Someone who is not afraid to be an individual, understands their own key to happiness, and follows their own path
- Someone who can take care of themselves
- Someone who can have everything, but can live comfortably with nothing


If you can dance to yourself in public without caring if people think you're a weirdo, say hi and be accepting to strangers, walk up to a random girl, smile, talk about your passions and confidently express your own opinions, have a great time, get completely cock-teased and then rejected... all without you giving a shit -> Then I will be saying "you are a stud, wtf are you doing reading this post".

Self-exploration is something a lot of people neglect but its absolutely vital. Also note that this is not a quick process at all. It takes a long time.

Self-esteem requires "a self-evaluation process in which individuals compare their description of themselves as they are (Real Self) with their description of themselves as they would like to become (Ideal Self) and as they fear becoming (Dreaded Self)."[27] Self-esteem depends on living up to one's ideals.

Self-evaluation is important because the subject is able to assess what they know, what they do not know and what they would like to know. They begin to recognize their own strengths and weaknesses, and will be able to set goals that they know they can attain with the new knowledge they have about themselves.[28]


First thing to note,

If your self-worth comes from superficial factors, then your self-worth IS superficial.

The only way to have constantly high self esteem is for it to come from within, not from the outside. This is the ONLY way.

When someone makes fun of what you do, you feel bad because it lowers the worth of your hobby, therefore lowering your own worth. This has a compound effect because now you don't feel like being open to people about it for fear of people judging you and then it gets progressively worse. Same goes with looks and everything else. If your self-worth came from within, then this wouldn't affect you at all.

Trust me, you can get a hot random girl attracted to you talking about anything, its how you express yourself, and all the confidence that you are exuding, not the subject matter, that's important. Then again, think about why the hotness is particularly important before you go get blown out hard by a bunch of 10's.

Be careful about looking at yourself and thinking that you are not doing something because you don't enjoy it or how that lofty goal you set but cannot reach is something that is vitally important in your life.

For example, what is the real reason that your ladder rank is important to you? I think for many people, they don't realise that their peers influence their perception of the importance of their rank, and that is not exactly a good thing. How would you feel about your worth if you got demoted a couple of times?

Would you be totally cool with telling your mates that you are now in Bronze league? What about the fact that you are a virgin or never had a girlfriend? If you find situations like this uncomfortable then your self worth is coming from external factors.

For people that have this issue, this problem can be so pervasive that it interferes with everything they do, they surround themselves with peers of similar mindsets and become completely blind to it because they think its normal.

Look at your past, it could be important, try to find them, and resolve them from within. You will often be surprised once you acknowledge certain things, the problems also seem to be much easier to fix and may even disappear.

Parenting style can also play a crucial role in self-esteem development. Students in elementary school who have high self-esteem tend to have parents who are caring, supportive adults who set clear standards for their child and allow them to voice their opinion in decision making.

Childhood experiences that contribute to healthy self-esteem include being listened to, being spoken to respectfully, receiving appropriate attention and affection and having accomplishments recognized and mistakes or failures acknowledged and accepted. Experiences that contribute to low self-esteem include being harshly criticized, being physically, sexually or emotionally abused, being ignored, ridiculed or teased or being expected to be "perfect" all the time.


Anyway don't believe that any external factors have anything to do with your ability to be attractive. If you can't be real with a girl when trying to get her, you will never be attractive. Even if you do get with her, the relationship will fall to pieces shortly after.

Going back to the list, here are some temporary things you can tell yourself to get your mojo back.

- Every time you feel like your confidence is waning, just tell yourself that you are a fucking stud and you know it.
- If someone judges you, fuck em.
- If someone rejects you, you didn't need her/him anyway
- Thoughts are not reality

I myself have made a lot of mistakes, I mean A LOT. I think though that everyone needs to find out how to reach these goals themselves, they need to make the mistakes themselves, and learn to get over it and learn from it.

I think its easier to understand what you are trying to do when you are aiming for concrete goals. So these are some things that I find women respond to the most.

Self-esteem results in
- Confidence and optimism
- Eliminated social anxiety
- Ability to deal with emotional stresses
- Assurance (of self and others)

Some examples

- Fucking smile and be happy dammit, so many people will go up to a girl looking as if they are completely empty inside. Looking hollow is not attractive.

- Be open and passionate about your hobbies, but also learn how to express them in a way that is interesting to the layman.

- Nothing should be a big deal, there's no greater turn off than someone having an anxiety attack over some stupid over-thinking, or causing a big deal over nothing. Manage your expectations. This involves her ignoring you, she is not an extension of you, she has her own life, you should expect less companionship from her than you would from a close friend.

- Be reassuring, women will often be insecure about lots of things, you need to smack these issues out of the ballpark ASAP. Learning how to do this takes time, so don't be worried about falling flat on your face the first few times. I am not talking just about the classic "do you think I'm fat?". Anyway when you can do this well, it is fucking hot to them and they will wanna stick to you like glue.

- Be an Individual. Don't be afraid to be passionate about a hobby that you think she might not like. This is called BEING YOURSELF, and is highly attractive when the girl isn't a close-minded jerk. If she is, she will be just trouble later on anyway. Leave that bitch ASAP.

- Don't be afraid to contradict certain social norms and how you think its bullshit. Harry Potter wasn't afraid to say Voldemort, while everyone else said "he who must not be named". If you are the kind to just obey norms without thinking about it, that literally makes you gayer than Harry Potter. Keep that in mind. If you don't believe me then why do girls like rebels?

- Have rock solid well formed opinions that you can express without getting into an argument. Rather than compensating, learn to agree to disagree but also accept but not tolerate her viewpoint. This doesn't mean debate everything she says, but if she says something that doesn't sit well with you, you should have the confidence to express your opinion with dignity. If she doesn't accept your opinion, immediately walk away.

- She may try to deal with your problems, or even magically come up with some. She is not your mother, yes its good that she is kind and cares about you. If you expect a mothers love from her you will achieve nothing but heartache. Ignore her pleas to "fix" you. I've seen enough to realise that she will reveal her true self once she loses attraction to you. These are your problems, not hers, it is up to you to fix them (that is if you even believe it is a problem). Someone with high self-esteem doesn't need others to fix his own problems.

- Going off the above, if you have a problem that affects the two of you, this is no longer solely your problem. This is something you need to work out and solve together. This can often be unpleasant, so its often best to get it sorted before there's a catastrophe. However at the same time don't feel like your gonna have amazing success rates when you straight up tell her you're a psycho who goes out of control at the drop of a hat, and just expect her to accept it. You'll just have to find the right one then.

Again if you have high self esteem, these issues will solve themselves and everything will fall into place. These examples will address the symptoms, not the underlying cause. The cure is to do something about your self-esteem.

So instead of focusing on random examples that some I told you about, just focus on your self esteem and being yourself.


Hope this was of help. I kind of went on a tangent, but hopefully I explained the whole "being yourself" thing. I am also completely open to any suggestions if you think I am wrong in any areas. Its actually very complex and not simple like they make it out to be .
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
June 01 2014 21:27 GMT
#9587
It's almost midnight. I'm about to grab a Taxi in order to drive to my crush, who I've been into for almost 3 years, in order to confess to her.
My hands are cold and shaking, my heart is racing like crazy, my brain is full of if's and but's and I have not the slightest idea, why I'm even writing this here. Jeez. Just wish me luck, guys.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
June 01 2014 21:31 GMT
#9588
You should probably not do it, but good luck.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
amaDeus
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany205 Posts
June 01 2014 21:37 GMT
#9589
Gl bro, tell us what happened after
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25623 Posts
June 01 2014 21:43 GMT
#9590
Gl man
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 01 2014 21:45 GMT
#9591
That seems very movie-esque lol. gl
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
June 01 2014 22:15 GMT
#9592
Good luck man ! Keep us updated
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 01 2014 22:38 GMT
#9593
May the Broforce be with you bro. Good luck too!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 01 2014 22:40 GMT
#9594
On June 01 2014 22:55 B.I.G. wrote:
She probably isn't mad at you just really turned off/dissapointed/disgusted. You are being two faced which is a very nasty habit. If I was having a good time with a person who turns out to hate the stuff he or she pretended to like I would probably react the same way.

It wasnt anything really bad, not bad enough to warrant a total over reaction.
Nothing she did really pissed me off i mean we liked the same things played LoL together and all that shit so idk.

it was a total un warranted overreaction that i probably did not deserve
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18048 Posts
June 01 2014 22:47 GMT
#9595
On June 02 2014 06:27 Talron wrote:
It's almost midnight. I'm about to grab a Taxi in order to drive to my crush, who I've been into for almost 3 years, in order to confess to her.
My hands are cold and shaking, my heart is racing like crazy, my brain is full of if's and but's and I have not the slightest idea, why I'm even writing this here. Jeez. Just wish me luck, guys.

This sounds like an absolutely terrible plan. But good luck.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 01 2014 23:21 GMT
#9596
wont she just be sleeping or whatever? lol
I come in for the scraps
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
June 02 2014 00:23 GMT
#9597
On June 02 2014 08:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
wont she just be sleeping or whatever? lol

This may or may not be the worst plan ever. I'm down to see the conclusion.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
June 02 2014 01:10 GMT
#9598
On June 02 2014 06:27 Talron wrote:
It's almost midnight. I'm about to grab a Taxi in order to drive to my crush, who I've been into for almost 3 years, in order to confess to her.
My hands are cold and shaking, my heart is racing like crazy, my brain is full of if's and but's and I have not the slightest idea, why I'm even writing this here. Jeez. Just wish me luck, guys.


Wait till day time man.
Push 2 Harder
TwiggyWan
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
France330 Posts
June 02 2014 09:33 GMT
#9599
So? What happened? D:
No bad days
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 09:45:32
June 02 2014 09:42 GMT
#9600
I like how every "dating expert" here thinks that confessing is a bad plan. It's actually the best one in the only case that matters - the case where you are in love with each other.
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