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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

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1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 22:04:34
May 22 2013 22:04 GMT
#3241
On May 23 2013 06:11 fdsdfg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 05:53 Shady Sands wrote:
On May 22 2013 16:33 sunprince wrote:
On May 18 2013 00:59 Shady Sands wrote:
"You should stop drinking so much diet dr pepper, its bad for your sperm quality"

cute or creepy?


Depends on the context.

we've seen each other for less than a month and she's thinking about my sperm quality

oag?


It's nothing to take too seriously. If you commented that a certain medication can cause birth defects, it's not much different.

Fair enough. I generally try to never talk about birth/kids stuff with a girl unless we've been together for awhile, so maybe that's why I thought it was odd
Что?
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 22 2013 22:07 GMT
#3242
On May 23 2013 07:04 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 06:11 fdsdfg wrote:
On May 23 2013 05:53 Shady Sands wrote:
On May 22 2013 16:33 sunprince wrote:
On May 18 2013 00:59 Shady Sands wrote:
"You should stop drinking so much diet dr pepper, its bad for your sperm quality"

cute or creepy?


Depends on the context.

we've seen each other for less than a month and she's thinking about my sperm quality

oag?


It's nothing to take too seriously. If you commented that a certain medication can cause birth defects, it's not much different.

Fair enough. I generally try to never talk about birth/kids stuff with a girl unless we've been together for awhile, so maybe that's why I thought it was odd


Shady is your entire relationship with this girl from the airplane going to be chronicled in different posts in different threads on TL, and joinable together to form a grand tapestry, that you will send your grand kids on in the future to collect?! Perhaps giving them the website name on your death bed lol.
xicoo
Profile Joined June 2009
Portugal55 Posts
May 22 2013 22:13 GMT
#3243
On May 23 2013 06:02 Garfailed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 06:06 Garfailed wrote:
I've only kissed a girl twice, and never had girlfriend.
And next month i turn 19...
Im rather pathetic...


Appareantly, that girl i kissed was setup by my friends...
I feel really terrible now



i had my first girlfriend at 20, i never kissed anyone before her let alone have sex, right after i did it i realized how stupid i was for being ashamed of being a virgin, its just not that big of a deal trust me, society can be a bitch sometimes..
ignorance is bliss!
NoRush20
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada30 Posts
May 22 2013 22:17 GMT
#3244
pretty good i have to say, despite starting rather later in life (19) i spent the earlier years on self improvement and have been reaping the results ever since as i have gotten with (not exclusively in a sexual sense) most of the girls ive pursued... In the last few years Ive dated every girl ive set after without too much effort (for the most part.)
BGH$$$4v4$$$NR20$$$PROZ$$$ONLY!!!
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
May 23 2013 03:27 GMT
#3245
Just wanted to share a tip that seemed to work pretty well

After getting a clear signal that she liked me, I hid a whole bunch of romantic/funny notes across her apartment, and every day I'll let her know where one of the notes is.

Since both of us travel quite a bit, this lets us share some degree of affection aside from the usual skyping/texting
Что?
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
May 23 2013 15:04 GMT
#3246
On May 23 2013 06:02 Garfailed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 06:06 Garfailed wrote:
I've only kissed a girl twice, and never had girlfriend.
And next month i turn 19...
Im rather pathetic...


Appareantly, that girl i kissed was setup by my friends...
I feel really terrible now

I got my first kiss just before turning 20. Shortly later, I met my first girlfriend; she was fucking hot and we stayed together for three years.

So stop worrying.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 15:55:27
May 23 2013 15:54 GMT
#3247
On May 23 2013 06:02 Garfailed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 06:06 Garfailed wrote:
I've only kissed a girl twice, and never had girlfriend.
And next month i turn 19...
Im rather pathetic...


Appareantly, that girl i kissed was setup by my friends...
I feel really terrible now

If this is important to you, you should start worrying and improving yourself to become more attractive to the other sex. And while I believe women, sex and relationships are overrated this can bring a lot of happiness to your life in many other aspects. Don't listen to the people saying it's normal and fine, because the truth is not having had any sort of contact with a girl at 19 is not by any means "normal" or ok.
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heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 16:04:22
May 23 2013 16:04 GMT
#3248
I've been having an upswing lately. After the normal but unsuccessful two dates with that one girl a couple of weeks ago, I have since aquired a fuck buddy, one date scheduled with some girl from online who actually plays videogames (important) and one married woman wants to bang me. I must have been doing something right the past few weeks, although I don't know what cause I haven't changed anything.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
May 23 2013 16:50 GMT
#3249
On May 24 2013 01:04 heishe wrote:
I've been having an upswing lately. After the normal but unsuccessful two dates with that one girl a couple of weeks ago, I have since aquired a fuck buddy, one date scheduled with some girl from online who actually plays videogames (important) and one married woman wants to bang me. I must have been doing something right the past few weeks, although I don't know what cause I haven't changed anything.

Awesome man, you're like a Muslim husband except you can eat pork

j/k
Что?
albis
Profile Joined January 2010
United States652 Posts
May 23 2013 20:23 GMT
#3250
On May 23 2013 06:02 Garfailed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 06:06 Garfailed wrote:
I've only kissed a girl twice, and never had girlfriend.
And next month i turn 19...
Im rather pathetic...


Appareantly, that girl i kissed was setup by my friends...
I feel really terrible now

got my first gf when i was 19. it's not a bad thing. 2nd one at 23.

some people can't live without being in relationships, and are dependent on them. i'm not one of them.
every punch is thrown with bad intentions with the speed of a devil
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 20:32:39
May 23 2013 20:31 GMT
#3251
On May 23 2013 06:02 Garfailed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 06:06 Garfailed wrote:
I've only kissed a girl twice, and never had girlfriend.
And next month i turn 19...
Im rather pathetic...


Appareantly, that girl i kissed was setup by my friends...
I feel really terrible now

if it is any consolation, if you have trouble finding girls who want in your pants, your buddies seem to care an awful lot about the usage of your weiner

On May 23 2013 06:19 Ambre wrote:
Terrible terrible... luck.

Two days ago I ve been on a date with a girl I ve met on the Internet...

The date went fine, we both laughed quite a lot, but she wasn't really my type (physically), and she noticed. Now I think I made her REALLY sad, and I feel terrible. Before that we have been speaking for 2 weeks.

-_-'


unless you were rude or told her outright i dont find you hot you really cant feel bad. youre not going to be attracted to everyone. so long as you are respectful that is all tha matters
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Race is Terran
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States382 Posts
May 23 2013 20:39 GMT
#3252
On May 23 2013 06:02 Garfailed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 06:06 Garfailed wrote:
I've only kissed a girl twice, and never had girlfriend.
And next month i turn 19...
Im rather pathetic...


Appareantly, that girl i kissed was setup by my friends...
I feel really terrible now

heh, well I've never kissed a girl, i had a girlfriend once in high school. She asked ME out but I still somehow convinced myself that I wasn't good enough for her so I broke up with her by the end of the week...

Ive come a lot farther since than and I don't feel bad about being 19 and a virgin, coz when I meet someone I like I won't be afraid to take it to the next level
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
May 23 2013 20:54 GMT
#3253
On April 20 2013 08:34 Grumbels wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I met a girl I liked and that seemed to show some interest in me. We both agreed to sign up for this (recreational sports) activity, but failed to coordinate for she and I picked different time slots. As there are limited chances to sign up I would have to break protocol and defy university policy to make the switch, far from being guaranteed a spot. (and I am scared of bureaucrats) I felt like the flow of our relationship development had been disrupted: it was supposed to be the case that we could share in this activity and become closer to each other, but if I want to see her again I would have to make a direct move in pursuing her even if we were only friends before.

I think I can probably convince the trainer to let me switch time slots, but it will probably also require me to be quite insistent with him (which I don't like) and I don't want to make an enemy of him as I will be working with him closely for several months. I suspect she will be happy for me to make this effort, but I'm still quite worried since I'm not certain about this. There is a lingering suspicion in my mind that no woman can be attracted to me in this way, even despite her actual behavior, and I do lack self confidence. I would like to get through this without any strong emotional discomfort on my side, I really can't stand rejection, so I'll have to try to handle this situation carefully. My hope is that I can simply switch the time slots, have a proper non-committal reason for doing so to allow my actions to remain ambiguous from her point of view and then continue with seeing her weekly while becoming closer to her as I had originally planned.

(sorry if this level of elaboration sounds insane)

Oh, I have an update (to my highly boring romantic adventures).

I had mostly given up on my fancies of romance as, due to a succession of coincidences/school holidays, I ended up not seeing her for about a month, but eventually some more contrivances worked in my favor. We were the only two that showed up for a course, since a dozen people conveniently stayed home, so it's almost like I had a date handed to me. Actually, I went to play tennis with the instructor since I was the only one at first, but she was late and tracked us down and volunteered to play ballgirl, but it was still quite cozy, and we ended up talking a lot the next hour (for the next time slot for the same thing, although people actually showed up this time). And afterwards we walked together for a bit until out of nowhere it started to hail (and I was still wearing sports clothing), so she used her umbrella to protect me while we walked off into the sunset in romantic fashion..shield herself and to leave me to dash for my apartment, but I don't blame her since it was more practical as I was on my bike while she was walking. :p
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Bartuc
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 00:27:16
May 24 2013 00:24 GMT
#3254
On May 23 2013 06:02 Garfailed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 06:06 Garfailed wrote:
I've only kissed a girl twice, and never had girlfriend.
And next month i turn 19...
Im rather pathetic...


Appareantly, that girl i kissed was setup by my friends...
I feel really terrible now


Dont worry, if you dont give a shit about it then girls wont. Do what you like and have fun and focus on developing yourself as a person. The less you care the more you get.
It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 00:39:09
May 24 2013 00:38 GMT
#3255
On May 18 2013 00:59 Shady Sands wrote:
"You should stop drinking so much diet dr pepper, its bad for your sperm quality"

cute or creepy?


I have had that talks, but not exactly because of the fertility. Maybe you should look into it.
Creepy stuff below just so i don't get called out again :d
+ Show Spoiler +
Bad diet and it will taste like shit.
xicoo
Profile Joined June 2009
Portugal55 Posts
May 24 2013 00:58 GMT
#3256
On May 24 2013 00:54 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 06:02 Garfailed wrote:
On May 10 2013 06:06 Garfailed wrote:
I've only kissed a girl twice, and never had girlfriend.
And next month i turn 19...
Im rather pathetic...


Appareantly, that girl i kissed was setup by my friends...
I feel really terrible now

If this is important to you, you should start worrying and improving yourself to become more attractive to the other sex. And while I believe women, sex and relationships are overrated this can bring a lot of happiness to your life in many other aspects. Don't listen to the people saying it's normal and fine, because the truth is not having had any sort of contact with a girl at 19 is not by any means "normal" or ok.


Its not the norm but why is it not "ok"? i mean the only thing i think can be bad is your first relationship you are bound to make many mistakes, the sooner you make them the better! but if you are a guy who goes to the club and picks up a chick for a one night stand at age 16 or w/e and you get laid, does that make you in anyway better then a virgin in a serious relationship? I think not.

The other thing is the stigma society puts on you for being a virgin and you can sometimes feel pressure to get a girl, i felt that and now i know how stupid that was.

I have friends who brag alot of how many chicks they banged and fucked and those who have gfs they all treat them poorly i just can´t see myself treating a womem the way they do, surprinsingly they all have far more experience with girls then me..
ignorance is bliss!
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
May 24 2013 02:02 GMT
#3257
Goddamnit,

The female I have been crushing on at work has told me she is leaving the company and moving to Manhattan (I work in Connecticut) Now the good news is that I live in the Bronx so that is actually closer to me, but the bad news is that I feel like we will probably not talk again after next week if I do not take some drastic action. We only met a few weeks ago so this is pretty shitty timing.

I suppose I have to either get her digits or ask her out before she leaves. I am sure she'd give me her number if I just asked but I am not looking for a friendship I want to be clear I am looking for a date and/or sex. I am afraid asking for her number right before she leaves is going to come across as I either want her as like a business contact or I want to creep on her or some shit. Any ideas? I am despairing over here.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
May 24 2013 03:02 GMT
#3258
On May 24 2013 11:02 TheFish7 wrote:
Goddamnit,

The female I have been crushing on at work has told me she is leaving the company and moving to Manhattan (I work in Connecticut) Now the good news is that I live in the Bronx so that is actually closer to me, but the bad news is that I feel like we will probably not talk again after next week if I do not take some drastic action. We only met a few weeks ago so this is pretty shitty timing.

I suppose I have to either get her digits or ask her out before she leaves. I am sure she'd give me her number if I just asked but I am not looking for a friendship I want to be clear I am looking for a date and/or sex. I am afraid asking for her number right before she leaves is going to come across as I either want her as like a business contact or I want to creep on her or some shit. Any ideas? I am despairing over here.

Well you better start flirting then duh
SimoNostalgia
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States226 Posts
May 24 2013 04:29 GMT
#3259
Met a girl through facebook this week. Going on a date on monday. She seems really cool.
Above the lakes, above the vales, The mountains and the woods, the clouds, the seas, Beyond the sun, beyond the ether, Beyond the confines of the starry spheres, My soul, you move with ease
sunprince
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2258 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 05:01:47
May 24 2013 05:01 GMT
#3260
On May 24 2013 11:02 TheFish7 wrote:
Goddamnit,

The female I have been crushing on at work has told me she is leaving the company and moving to Manhattan (I work in Connecticut) Now the good news is that I live in the Bronx so that is actually closer to me, but the bad news is that I feel like we will probably not talk again after next week if I do not take some drastic action. We only met a few weeks ago so this is pretty shitty timing.

I suppose I have to either get her digits or ask her out before she leaves. I am sure she'd give me her number if I just asked but I am not looking for a friendship I want to be clear I am looking for a date and/or sex. I am afraid asking for her number right before she leaves is going to come across as I either want her as like a business contact or I want to creep on her or some shit. Any ideas? I am despairing over here.


Needs more context for better tailored advice. How has your interaction been so far? Already flirtatious, or what?

You don't really need to be clear about anything. All you're looking to do is hang out with her over drinks, and you can escalate from there. What you don't want to do is essentially tell her while at work that you want to date/hook up.
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