On May 13 2013 16:13 aNGryaRchon wrote:
im ab out to date a really hot chick, any tips guys?
im ab out to date a really hot chick, any tips guys?
Edit:
Nvm I'm drunk don't want ban, just um... be yourself or something.
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
May 13 2013 07:19 GMT
#3181
On May 13 2013 16:13 aNGryaRchon wrote: im ab out to date a really hot chick, any tips guys? Edit: Nvm I'm drunk don't want ban, just um... be yourself or something. | ||
quetzy
Croatia15 Posts
May 13 2013 07:45 GMT
#3182
On May 12 2013 11:38 13JackaL wrote: so theres this girl ive been crushing on for about a while now, an old friend from school. Eventually, I worked up the confidence to just send her a message, so we have a nice long conversation. We decide that we would most certainly catch up one of these days, though we don't really specify anything else. So a couple days later I throw her a message that I would take her out sometime after I get paid if she'd like of course. To that, I meet total silence, as if my existence just fades away. She doesn't end up responding until a couple days later, which of course has me wondering, "How badly did I mess up?" and if so, "What the fuck?" All she says in her response is "LOL no its fine i have my own money." So I really want to meet her at some point but her sudden lack of interest disturbs me. It doesn't even need to be a "date" or anything like that, I just don't understand what's going through this girl's head. Any advice TL? :D You seriously worded it like that?! *sigh* Girls communicate on more than just the top "information sharing" level. I'm not trying to make you overthink everything ten times before saying it, but things you say do have implications, and a bit of forethought wouldn't hurt. In the case of that bolded statement, you basically (rather obviously) implied that 'taking her out' is a costly thing (why?), and that you think of her as someone who expects you to pay for the date (which, even if it's a nice gesture that you probably will do, should not be expected by default in today's world). In her head, you possibly implied the assumption that she's a sponsor-girl, which is never nice to hear (at least to any normal person). You're lucky that, judging by her - perfectly normal - reaction ("LOL no its fine i have my own money."), she seems to be a rather down-to-earth normal person and just found your money-worry amusing (she probably now understands just how worked over this whole thing you actually are). The only possible problem is it took her three days to reply, which might mean you did shock her a bit at first with such an assumption - but the fact she replied and did so in a joking tone means she went over it and is giving you a chance. So stop over-analysing and just go somewhere with her. And for god's sake, ignore the movies, you don't have to take her to a fancy restaurant (in fact, doing so would probably just end up being awkward, and you'll worry more about money than her), just go somewhere enjoyable where you feel at home. Show her a place you like, do an activity together (heck, even just a hike), anything... if she's interested (and normal), she won't care where you two go, as long as she gets to talk to you and learn more about you. About the second part of the bolded statement ("if she'd like of course"), just skip saying those things. If you're asking someone out, it's implied that they will accept 'if they like', and decline 'if they don't like'. Stating it like this just makes it look like you're insecure about if she would accept at all, which means you feel that she's 'better than you'. She doesn't know you, but she assumes you know yourself, and if she gets a feeling that you don't value yourself much, then why would she? (confidence is a tricky thing... I'm not saying be cocky, but you sure as hell shouldn't put yourself down, or lift her up in the sky either... you're just two persons checking out if you like to share each other's company, enjoy it ![]() Also, were those two messages you mentioned the last messages you exchanged? What was your response to her last message? Because I don't understand where in this is *her* lack of interest. Can you clarify a bit please? | ||
Metalreflux
United States165 Posts
May 13 2013 07:46 GMT
#3183
On May 13 2013 16:19 EngrishTeacher wrote: Show nested quote + On May 13 2013 16:13 aNGryaRchon wrote: im ab out to date a really hot chick, any tips guys? Edit: Nvm I'm drunk don't want ban, just um... be yourself or something. Or acknowledge that she is more then a hotchick but rather a person. Don't tell her she's beautiful but rather find things to compliment about her that YOU actually find interesting. Things that aren't physical. Ask questions that allow her to show off how smart she is. Women are more then just skin, there is a brain in there. | ||
B.I.G.
3251 Posts
May 13 2013 08:04 GMT
#3184
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Kaze Eventz
Singapore16 Posts
May 13 2013 09:15 GMT
#3185
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onewaystyx
Switzerland46 Posts
May 13 2013 10:18 GMT
#3186
On May 13 2013 05:16 rezoacken wrote: Show nested quote + On May 13 2013 01:48 onewaystyx wrote: Haha i just got a girlfriend for the first time. Since my mother didnt let me play sc2 i thought id be a bit social and interract with some people. I remembered this girl that plays volleyball in the same team as me so during a train ride (im male mind you, at that time both teams male as well as female, where going to the same place to a tournament) i decided to talk to her a little. In doing so i learned that her friend beside her is her bff. I got the number of her friend and also became her friend myself so that everywhere that my newly found crush would go i could as well. After taking many ladies nights upon me i finally had a moment alone with my crush and i asked her out to dinner. She said yes. The next morning her friend starts texting me how much she really likes me and so on so from that point on it was basically easy since i knew she liked me. 4 days after asking her out shes all over me at my house. I guess that if you like a girl first become friends with her best friend. A good friend of mine told me this and it obviously worked ![]() That reminds me of something I read once. To fall for somebody people get attracted by some traits. Of course, which traits, depends on the person but that's not what I'm going to discuss. For each trait you possess, each will be attractive at different levels depending on how someone finds out about them. From best to worst: 1. She discovers one of your quality by herself (best) 2. One of her friend tells her. 3. One of your friend tells her. 4. You tell her yourself. (worst) (Of course this also work for defaults) So when you befriend her friends, they will at least not block you and at best even sell you and displaying qualities that way is imo one of the best ways. That's also why trying to convince someone you have qualities is just the worst thing ever. You have to display them, not brag about it. luckily it was the first case. Dunno why but she found me really funny amusing, good looking and all that jazz. Guess i got pretty lucky ![]() | ||
aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
May 13 2013 10:27 GMT
#3187
On May 13 2013 16:46 Metalreflux wrote: Show nested quote + On May 13 2013 16:19 EngrishTeacher wrote: On May 13 2013 16:13 aNGryaRchon wrote: im ab out to date a really hot chick, any tips guys? Edit: Nvm I'm drunk don't want ban, just um... be yourself or something. Women are more then just skin, there is a brain in there. I personally find that the better looking they are the stupider they become. It might be cultural here but I always had to lower the level of the discussion and the language to speak with a really hot girl. | ||
gedatsu
1286 Posts
May 13 2013 10:38 GMT
#3188
On May 12 2013 13:10 kaykaykay wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2013 03:52 gedatsu wrote: On May 11 2013 01:25 kaykaykay wrote: On May 10 2013 22:00 marvellosity wrote: On May 10 2013 21:19 kaykaykay wrote: What do you do when you're with a handful of girls who are all interested in you? Make an excuse to get out of the way and later find some alone time with all of them? Invite them all for a massive orgy with you as the star attraction. Well, I would love an appropriate response because I wish I was just bragging. No, I genuinely need help. The camp is coming up soon and I hate to be caught in the middle. + Show Spoiler + If it helps, I'm single and I would date any of those girls. But when you have to mingle with a couple of them at one go, I feel flustered because I can't give a single girl my undivided attention. And also partly because I worry about the inclinations they may have when they see me responding flirtatiously to another member of the opposite sex. I think that if they really are as interested in you as you describe, seeing that they have competition will probably make it so they'll be the ones trying to get some alone time with you. Women are suckers for guys that other women fancy (and there is a perfectly good biological reason). So feel free to flirt back, even in group settings. So it's okay if the ladies see me flirting with others? If I understand your situation correctly, yes. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland23792 Posts
May 13 2013 12:05 GMT
#3189
On May 13 2013 19:27 aTnClouD wrote: Show nested quote + On May 13 2013 16:46 Metalreflux wrote: On May 13 2013 16:19 EngrishTeacher wrote: On May 13 2013 16:13 aNGryaRchon wrote: im ab out to date a really hot chick, any tips guys? Edit: Nvm I'm drunk don't want ban, just um... be yourself or something. Women are more then just skin, there is a brain in there. I personally find that the better looking they are the stupider they become. It might be cultural here but I always had to lower the level of the discussion and the language to speak with a really hot girl. I don't think they are stupider as such, but through their lives are generally under less obligation to show their intelligence, wit or what have you than their less attractive peers. I'd imagine it's why the whole 'negging' thing works better on hot chicks, they appreciate the ballsiness a bit more because it's less commonly directed at them. | ||
aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
May 13 2013 12:57 GMT
#3190
On May 13 2013 21:05 Wombat_NI wrote: Show nested quote + On May 13 2013 19:27 aTnClouD wrote: On May 13 2013 16:46 Metalreflux wrote: On May 13 2013 16:19 EngrishTeacher wrote: On May 13 2013 16:13 aNGryaRchon wrote: im ab out to date a really hot chick, any tips guys? Edit: Nvm I'm drunk don't want ban, just um... be yourself or something. Women are more then just skin, there is a brain in there. I personally find that the better looking they are the stupider they become. It might be cultural here but I always had to lower the level of the discussion and the language to speak with a really hot girl. I don't think they are stupider as such, but through their lives are generally under less obligation to show their intelligence, wit or what have you than their less attractive peers. I'd imagine it's why the whole 'negging' thing works better on hot chicks, they appreciate the ballsiness a bit more because it's less commonly directed at them. It's obvious it's that way, but it's very zone specific. There's tons of super hot eastern european girls with a perfectly working brain, while in western europe it's almost impossible to find one that hasn't a big ego and nothing else to offer. I don't know in US tbh, to me it seemed something inbetween. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland23792 Posts
May 13 2013 14:54 GMT
#3191
I find foreign girls tend to be 'smarter' or at least more comfortable in emphasising that aspect of themselves, when in other countries at least. That may be explicable by the average immigrant coming over here being more intelligent anyway (especially certain groups who only migrate for education reasons), or perhaps culturally it's more valued to be outspoken and interesting elsewhere in the world. I actually do a lot better with foreign girls for whatever reason. I've found introducing myself is a lot less of a hassle as there's some kind of inbuilt point of reference (namely them being foreign), but equally that's not enough to sustain conversation beyond that. I find it close to impossible to just go up to somebody and say hello without such a reference point (being a smoker helps in some respects there. Foreigners also tend to appreciate you actually knowing a bit about their homelands too, and I'm the kind of guy who has a very shallow, but extremely broad knowledge set so that helps too. I managed to have a rare casual encounter with a visiting Finn after discussing the Winter War with Russia and the famous sniper Simo Häyhä among other things. A pair of Latvians were enamoured with me and my friend because I guessed they were from Riga, a city I really only know because of the exploits of Skonto Riga and Maris Verpakovskis [sic]. | ||
Executor1
1353 Posts
May 13 2013 16:34 GMT
#3192
On May 13 2013 16:45 quetzy wrote: Show nested quote + On May 12 2013 11:38 13JackaL wrote: so theres this girl ive been crushing on for about a while now, an old friend from school. Eventually, I worked up the confidence to just send her a message, so we have a nice long conversation. We decide that we would most certainly catch up one of these days, though we don't really specify anything else. So a couple days later I throw her a message that I would take her out sometime after I get paid if she'd like of course. To that, I meet total silence, as if my existence just fades away. She doesn't end up responding until a couple days later, which of course has me wondering, "How badly did I mess up?" and if so, "What the fuck?" All she says in her response is "LOL no its fine i have my own money." So I really want to meet her at some point but her sudden lack of interest disturbs me. It doesn't even need to be a "date" or anything like that, I just don't understand what's going through this girl's head. Any advice TL? :D You seriously worded it like that?! *sigh* Girls communicate on more than just the top "information sharing" level. I'm not trying to make you overthink everything ten times before saying it, but things you say do have implications, and a bit of forethought wouldn't hurt. In the case of that bolded statement, you basically (rather obviously) implied that 'taking her out' is a costly thing (why?), and that you think of her as someone who expects you to pay for the date (which, even if it's a nice gesture that you probably will do, should not be expected by default in today's world). In her head, you possibly implied the assumption that she's a sponsor-girl, which is never nice to hear (at least to any normal person). You're lucky that, judging by her - perfectly normal - reaction ("LOL no its fine i have my own money."), she seems to be a rather down-to-earth normal person and just found your money-worry amusing (she probably now understands just how worked over this whole thing you actually are). The only possible problem is it took her three days to reply, which might mean you did shock her a bit at first with such an assumption - but the fact she replied and did so in a joking tone means she went over it and is giving you a chance. So stop over-analysing and just go somewhere with her. And for god's sake, ignore the movies, you don't have to take her to a fancy restaurant (in fact, doing so would probably just end up being awkward, and you'll worry more about money than her), just go somewhere enjoyable where you feel at home. Show her a place you like, do an activity together (heck, even just a hike), anything... if she's interested (and normal), she won't care where you two go, as long as she gets to talk to you and learn more about you. About the second part of the bolded statement ("if she'd like of course"), just skip saying those things. If you're asking someone out, it's implied that they will accept 'if they like', and decline 'if they don't like'. Stating it like this just makes it look like you're insecure about if she would accept at all, which means you feel that she's 'better than you'. She doesn't know you, but she assumes you know yourself, and if she gets a feeling that you don't value yourself much, then why would she? (confidence is a tricky thing... I'm not saying be cocky, but you sure as hell shouldn't put yourself down, or lift her up in the sky either... you're just two persons checking out if you like to share each other's company, enjoy it ![]() Also, were those two messages you mentioned the last messages you exchanged? What was your response to her last message? Because I don't understand where in this is *her* lack of interest. Can you clarify a bit please? Listen to this guy he knows what hes talking about. I mean most of this stuff is just common sense. If you come off like a bumbling and insecure but nice guy, i don't know what type of girl (if any) would give you the time of day. Honestly its alot better to come off uncaring and too sure of yourself (almost to the point of being cocky). If you just tip toe around a girl and put her on a pedestal it will literally get you know where. A lot of guys don't understand that girls aren't just looking for someone to treat them nicely, if they are good looking every guy will do that so it doesn't make you stand out in the slightest by just treating them nicely. Its better to treat them as an equal, call them out on their shit like you would a friend etc. It may even sound counter intuitive but throwing in a few backhanded compliments doesn't hurt either (nice eyelashes, are they fake? etc.) if that isn't you no worries but if stuff like that does come to your head and your holding back because your just trying to be too nice or worried about hurting their feelings, don't. | ||
Executor1
1353 Posts
May 13 2013 16:37 GMT
#3193
On May 13 2013 23:54 Wombat_NI wrote: Depends where you go Cloud, agreed on the Eastern-European girls but that may be my irrational love of the Slavic ladies talking. I find foreign girls tend to be 'smarter' or at least more comfortable in emphasising that aspect of themselves, when in other countries at least. That may be explicable by the average immigrant coming over here being more intelligent anyway (especially certain groups who only migrate for education reasons), or perhaps culturally it's more valued to be outspoken and interesting elsewhere in the world. I actually do a lot better with foreign girls for whatever reason. I've found introducing myself is a lot less of a hassle as there's some kind of inbuilt point of reference (namely them being foreign), but equally that's not enough to sustain conversation beyond that. I find it close to impossible to just go up to somebody and say hello without such a reference point (being a smoker helps in some respects there. Foreigners also tend to appreciate you actually knowing a bit about their homelands too, and I'm the kind of guy who has a very shallow, but extremely broad knowledge set so that helps too. I managed to have a rare casual encounter with a visiting Finn after discussing the Winter War with Russia and the famous sniper Simo Häyhä among other things. A pair of Latvians were enamoured with me and my friend because I guessed they were from Riga, a city I really only know because of the exploits of Skonto Riga and Maris Verpakovskis [sic]. Not that I suggest anyone start smoking, but i meet a lot of girls just because of the fact that i smoke. Even if you dont smoke you could always carry around an interesting lighter just in case a girl is in need of a light. | ||
sambo400
United States378 Posts
May 13 2013 17:03 GMT
#3194
On May 14 2013 01:37 Executor1 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 13 2013 23:54 Wombat_NI wrote: Depends where you go Cloud, agreed on the Eastern-European girls but that may be my irrational love of the Slavic ladies talking. I find foreign girls tend to be 'smarter' or at least more comfortable in emphasising that aspect of themselves, when in other countries at least. That may be explicable by the average immigrant coming over here being more intelligent anyway (especially certain groups who only migrate for education reasons), or perhaps culturally it's more valued to be outspoken and interesting elsewhere in the world. I actually do a lot better with foreign girls for whatever reason. I've found introducing myself is a lot less of a hassle as there's some kind of inbuilt point of reference (namely them being foreign), but equally that's not enough to sustain conversation beyond that. I find it close to impossible to just go up to somebody and say hello without such a reference point (being a smoker helps in some respects there. Foreigners also tend to appreciate you actually knowing a bit about their homelands too, and I'm the kind of guy who has a very shallow, but extremely broad knowledge set so that helps too. I managed to have a rare casual encounter with a visiting Finn after discussing the Winter War with Russia and the famous sniper Simo Häyhä among other things. A pair of Latvians were enamoured with me and my friend because I guessed they were from Riga, a city I really only know because of the exploits of Skonto Riga and Maris Verpakovskis [sic]. Not that I suggest anyone start smoking, but i meet a lot of girls just because of the fact that i smoke. Even if you dont smoke you could always carry around an interesting lighter just in case a girl is in need of a light. Unless its to hit on her non-smoker friend, she can get a light from someone who doesn't love their nose or health. | ||
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dravernor
Netherlands6175 Posts
May 13 2013 17:09 GMT
#3195
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23792 Posts
May 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#3196
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
May 13 2013 22:14 GMT
#3197
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
May 14 2013 02:34 GMT
#3198
On May 13 2013 16:19 DragonLord wrote: Show nested quote + On May 13 2013 05:16 rezoacken wrote: On May 13 2013 01:48 onewaystyx wrote: Haha i just got a girlfriend for the first time. Since my mother didnt let me play sc2 i thought id be a bit social and interract with some people. I remembered this girl that plays volleyball in the same team as me so during a train ride (im male mind you, at that time both teams male as well as female, where going to the same place to a tournament) i decided to talk to her a little. In doing so i learned that her friend beside her is her bff. I got the number of her friend and also became her friend myself so that everywhere that my newly found crush would go i could as well. After taking many ladies nights upon me i finally had a moment alone with my crush and i asked her out to dinner. She said yes. The next morning her friend starts texting me how much she really likes me and so on so from that point on it was basically easy since i knew she liked me. 4 days after asking her out shes all over me at my house. I guess that if you like a girl first become friends with her best friend. A good friend of mine told me this and it obviously worked ![]() That reminds me of something I read once. To fall for somebody people get attracted by some traits. Of course, which traits, depends on the person but that's not what I'm going to discuss. For each trait you possess, each will be attractive at different levels depending on how someone finds out about them. From best to worst: 1. She discovers one of your quality by herself (best) 2. One of her friend tells her. 3. One of your friend tells her. 4. You tell her yourself. (worst) (Of course this also work for defaults) So when you befriend her friends, they will at least not block you and at best even sell you and displaying qualities that way is imo one of the best ways. That's also why trying to convince someone you have qualities is just the worst thing ever. You have to display them, not brag about it. Sorry rez, I couldn't help notice your signature, I just wanted to let you know it is Khal Drogo ![]() ![]() Yeah I know ![]() | ||
B.I.G.
3251 Posts
May 14 2013 05:13 GMT
#3199
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MysteryMeat1
United States3291 Posts
May 14 2013 05:19 GMT
#3200
On May 14 2013 07:14 Shady Sands wrote: So just in case anybody from this thread missed my blog, my luck in dating has been amazing over the past two weeks. you have to at least give an update shady. Otherwise ur just doing a drive-by-brag | ||
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