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cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
October 14 2011 00:47 GMT
#141
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2011/10/herman-cain-9-9-9-plan-the-return-of-trickle-down-economics.html

Pretty much debunks his "999" bullshit.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
October 14 2011 01:55 GMT
#142
On October 14 2011 09:33 scaban84 wrote:
Ron Paul is the strongest candidate, but I would vote for Cain. Refreshing that someone with an Economics and Business background becomes a viable candidate.

I don't think his "controversial remarks" are of any significance, he just stated the obvious about the Muslim religion.


What's so obvious about Islam? Please enlighten me.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 14 2011 02:02 GMT
#143
On October 14 2011 10:55 TOloseGT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 09:33 scaban84 wrote:
Ron Paul is the strongest candidate, but I would vote for Cain. Refreshing that someone with an Economics and Business background becomes a viable candidate.

I don't think his "controversial remarks" are of any significance, he just stated the obvious about the Muslim religion.


What's so obvious about Islam? Please enlighten me.


Seconding this. If I'm not mistaken, Cain's remarks were ill-informed and could very well be regarded as offensive.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
PeT[uK]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States412 Posts
October 14 2011 02:08 GMT
#144
On October 02 2011 06:45 Letho wrote:
So, I thought that I would make a thread discussing the next President of the United States.

For anyone who is not yet convinced that he will get the Conservative nomination:

Point 1 - http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46473 <--- the poll referenced here was done BEFORE Cain's victory in Florida.

Point 2 - http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx <--- Herman Cain is the only candidate who has consistently held a high Positive Intensity score; in fact I don't think that anyone has beaten him yet since he announced. Also, he is still under 50% recognition and is already within 5 points of beating Obama; by far the only candidate with such an amazing ratio.

Point 3 - the other candidates are weak. Romney will never be president as he is too close to Bush; you can bet that the liberals are getting the astroturf ready to destroy him if he gets the nomination. Perry has some of the same problems; he could probably win, but people don't love him like they do Herman Cain. Paul is unelectable and not a conservative. Bachmann, well we already know. Huntsman, same as Paul, Santorum same as Bachmann, Gingrich is awesome but has too much history. Anyway, you get the picture; would love to hear what you guys think as well.

Bottom line, the man is incredibly intelligent, and has successfully turned around two major corporations. Best of all, at least for me, is that he has never been a politician. I know that this is a detractor to some people, and would love to address your specific concerns. The bottom line is that we already have too many politicians, and not enough people who can actually make hard decisions without worrying about reelection and stepping on the wrong toes.

Also, he is black. The only way that Obama can possibly win in 2012 (short of a miraculous economic recovery, which he seems to be doing everything to prevent, lol) is if he can capture the minority vote again. A Cain / Rubio ticket would absolutely blow this out of the water.

I have been following Herman for years and have been an avid listener of his radio program. If anyone has any questions about his positions, I should be able to answer them. If you want to debate liberal / conservative ideology, then I may or may not respond to you.

I will ask that you do not make dumb posts like "Cain sux b/c he duzznt sepport teh abortionz our teh homoshecks." You are right, and we like it that way. Actually, for these social issues, Cain defers to the States, and would never pass any Federal regulation that would interfere with this tenet of the Constitution.

Also, http://www.facebook.com/groups/52944254947/ - here is a Facebook group dedicated to breaking news and discussions. We try to keep it clear of irrelevant stuff and garden-variety anti-Obama jokes, hate and the like, so that people have more room to talk; please feel free to join in.

lol you think that just because he is black means he is going to get the minority vote? He is constantly putting black people down saying we are "brainwashed" by the democratic agenda. He says that if you are not rich and if you dont have a job then its your own fault.... -_- he is an uncle tom who says what republicans want to hear. Minorities hate him.
How Happy Are the Blameless Vestals Lot.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
October 14 2011 02:12 GMT
#145
On October 14 2011 09:35 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 09:11 sunprince wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:05 turdburgler wrote:
you think the economy is more important than human rights?


You do need an economy to pay for things like protecting human rights.

While in general, human rights > economy, there's a minimum threshold for both.



if you value you the human rights, no one needs protecting


Not everybody gives two shits about human rights. We don't live in a Utopia.
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 14 2011 02:13 GMT
#146
Lulz. The 9-9-9 build will never work and doesn't even pass the revenue-neutral test despite Cain's claims.
Turn off the radio
mud123
Profile Joined October 2010
27 Posts
October 14 2011 02:13 GMT
#147
Ron Paul will take the nomination. Cain is a moron. His fiscal policies are utter rubbish. The only reason Cain is doing well in the polls is because the media is ignoring Ron Paul who is consistently winning straw polls. IS Ron Paul a republican.. maybe not.. Ron Paul is a Libertarian. Is Ron Paul a conservative? YES! More so than any other republican candidate.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 02:16:08
October 14 2011 02:15 GMT
#148
On October 14 2011 09:47 cyberspace wrote:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2011/10/herman-cain-9-9-9-plan-the-return-of-trickle-down-economics.html

Pretty much debunks his "999" bullshit.


I'm no expert in economics but the new yorkers argument seems valid. I'd love to see Cain engage in an intellectual debate on the facts but we know that will never, ever happen.

I'd like to see if any more conservative economists actually support this plan. I doubt many will put their reputations on the line for something so shady.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
October 14 2011 02:19 GMT
#149
I know there are a large number of independants registering as republicans just to vote for Ron Paul so this Cain guy doesn't get in, because he is ri-gosh-darn-diculous.
briskisbestest
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2 Posts
October 14 2011 02:24 GMT
#150
On October 14 2011 10:55 TOloseGT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 09:33 scaban84 wrote:
Ron Paul is the strongest candidate, but I would vote for Cain. Refreshing that someone with an Economics and Business background becomes a viable candidate.

I don't think his "controversial remarks" are of any significance, he just stated the obvious about the Muslim religion.


What's so obvious about Islam? Please enlighten me.


It's the most immature religion? They probably commit more murders than the rest of the other religions combined, seeing how every other religion has matured.

Islam = immature.



User was warned for this post
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 14 2011 02:26 GMT
#151
I'm not a Cain fan, but I really think the criticism of his 9-9-9 plan is unfair. I mean, you really need to contrast these kind of proposals with what we have currently.

If any candidate were to stand up and say

"My tax plan is to have a system of tax code that is tens of thousands of pages long and is so complicated that thousands of people will have to devote their entire education and career to studying it and figuring out how to work it. There will be countless provisions made for individual companies to create exceptions and special privileges, endless loopholes that can be exploited, and hundreds of measures designed to benefit certain groups at the expense of others, based upon the fiat of politicians,"

would hopefully be laughed out of the entire political arena, or perhaps committed to a mental institution. The plans people advocate to reform the system are never going to be perfect, but in comparison to the nonsensical system we have now would almost always represent a move in the right direction.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 14 2011 02:37 GMT
#152
Art Laffer on the 9-9-9 plan.

Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 14 2011 02:39 GMT
#153
9-9-9 was the best publicity stunt they could have pulled.

each time one of the other candidates criticizes it, Herman Cain quietly thanks them for drawing more national air time on him.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
October 14 2011 02:44 GMT
#154
9-9-9 is a great plan.

It allows me to identify those who are unable to do any sort of basic math.
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
October 14 2011 02:45 GMT
#155
Looks like he got the idea from sim city.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/13/herman-cain-999-sim-city_n_1008952.html
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
October 14 2011 02:47 GMT
#156
On October 14 2011 11:26 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I'm not a Cain fan, but I really think the criticism of his 9-9-9 plan is unfair. I mean, you really need to contrast these kind of proposals with what we have currently.

If any candidate were to stand up and say

"My tax plan is to have a system of tax code that is tens of thousands of pages long and is so complicated that thousands of people will have to devote their entire education and career to studying it and figuring out how to work it. There will be countless provisions made for individual companies to create exceptions and special privileges, endless loopholes that can be exploited, and hundreds of measures designed to benefit certain groups at the expense of others, based upon the fiat of politicians,"

would hopefully be laughed out of the entire political arena, or perhaps committed to a mental institution. The plans people advocate to reform the system are never going to be perfect, but in comparison to the nonsensical system we have now would almost always represent a move in the right direction.


http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2011/10/herman-cain-9-9-9-plan-the-return-of-trickle-down-economics.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-9-9-9-plan-for-an-average-household-and-for-a-wealthy-one/2011/08/25/gIQAGKYzhL_blog.html

Economists have and the majority think it's a horrible plan. Cain's economy adviser doesn't even have a degree in economics. His plan benefits the rich and puts a burden on the middle class, and still doesn't manage to create the revenue we need. Not to mention his plan is oddly similar to sim city.
Josealtron
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States219 Posts
October 14 2011 02:49 GMT
#157
On October 14 2011 11:24 briskisbestest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 10:55 TOloseGT wrote:
On October 14 2011 09:33 scaban84 wrote:
Ron Paul is the strongest candidate, but I would vote for Cain. Refreshing that someone with an Economics and Business background becomes a viable candidate.

I don't think his "controversial remarks" are of any significance, he just stated the obvious about the Muslim religion.


What's so obvious about Islam? Please enlighten me.


It's the most immature religion? They probably commit more murders than the rest of the other religions combined, seeing how every other religion has matured.

Islam = immature.



I'm seriously hoping this is sarcasm or a troll or something
"If you give up on yourself, you give up on the world."
braheem
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada81 Posts
October 14 2011 02:52 GMT
#158
On October 14 2011 11:24 briskisbestest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 10:55 TOloseGT wrote:
On October 14 2011 09:33 scaban84 wrote:
Ron Paul is the strongest candidate, but I would vote for Cain. Refreshing that someone with an Economics and Business background becomes a viable candidate.

I don't think his "controversial remarks" are of any significance, he just stated the obvious about the Muslim religion.


What's so obvious about Islam? Please enlighten me.


It's the most immature religion? They probably commit more murders than the rest of the other religions combined, seeing how every other religion has matured.

Islam = immature.



how ironic..
I hate posses.
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 02:57:29
October 14 2011 02:54 GMT
#159
On October 14 2011 11:24 briskisbestest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 10:55 TOloseGT wrote:
On October 14 2011 09:33 scaban84 wrote:
Ron Paul is the strongest candidate, but I would vote for Cain. Refreshing that someone with an Economics and Business background becomes a viable candidate.

I don't think his "controversial remarks" are of any significance, he just stated the obvious about the Muslim religion.


What's so obvious about Islam? Please enlighten me.


It's the most immature religion? They probably commit more murders than the rest of the other religions combined, seeing how every other religion has matured.

Islam = immature.


crusades?eta? FARC? George bush and co?


George Bush even claimed God told him to attack Iraq.......wonder how that turned out.
methematics
Profile Joined August 2010
United States392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 03:02:37
October 14 2011 03:02 GMT
#160
On October 14 2011 11:37 xDaunt wrote:
Art Laffer on the 9-9-9 plan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNl1H0NCrNQ


Holy shit man, Art Laffer is a big deal. I wasnt expecting an endorsement that positive from him.
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