On October 14 2011 09:33 scaban84 wrote: Ron Paul is the strongest candidate, but I would vote for Cain. Refreshing that someone with an Economics and Business background becomes a viable candidate.
I don't think his "controversial remarks" are of any significance, he just stated the obvious about the Muslim religion.
What's so obvious about Islam? Please enlighten me.
It's the most immature religion? They probably commit more murders than the rest of the other religions combined, seeing how every other religion has matured.
Islam = immature.
A strict interpretation of the Islamic holy book would lead one to conclude that it is indeed a very violent religion. But, it's not really fair unless you take a look at other religions, too. So unless Cain wants to be inconsistent he's going to have to turn down all mainstream religions, not just Muslims.
Do Muslim's commit terrorist crimes because their religion tells them to? Absolutely. And not just crazy Muslim's. Many of those big bad terrorists who flew planes into buildings had college degrees. Do Christian's also commit acts of violence because their religion tells them to? Yep. Visited any abortion clinics lately? Seen any gay teens committing suicide because of harassment?
Point I'm making here is that Cain isn't being fair at all. And your point that other religions have matured is false. The books that they are based on haven't changed at all. Current cultural values have just influenced people to take certain aspects of the books less seriously. Muslim's raised in American society are going to have different cultural values from those in the middle east.
"Don't blame Wall Street. Don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It's not a person's fault because they succeeded. It is a person's fault if they failed. And so this is why I don't understand these demonstrations and what is it that they're looking for."
On October 14 2011 12:09 Telcontar wrote: "Don't blame Wall Street. Don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It's not a person's fault because they succeeded. It is a person's fault if they failed. And so this is why I don't understand these demonstrations and what is it that they're looking for."
lol. For some reason, I don't think this guy will make a good president.
Cain just needed to add two more sentences to make this correct: It is not a bank's fault if they failed. It is not Wall Street's fault if they failed.
On October 14 2011 09:33 scaban84 wrote: Ron Paul is the strongest candidate, but I would vote for Cain. Refreshing that someone with an Economics and Business background becomes a viable candidate.
I don't think his "controversial remarks" are of any significance, he just stated the obvious about the Muslim religion.
What's so obvious about Islam? Please enlighten me.
It's the most immature religion? They probably commit more murders than the rest of the other religions combined, seeing how every other religion has matured.
Islam = immature.
Thank you, so much, for existing.
Hey guys, using the logic from the Occupy Wall Street thread, this guy is proof that all Herman Cain supporters are insanely ignorant, right?
...okay okay, of course that isn't true. I still think he might be a troll, and if he is, well done :D
ron paul should be the nominee. he has consistently said end or at least audit the unaccountable (they don't answer to anyone, but control our monetary situation.) federal reserve.
"American businessman, syndicated columnist, and radio host from Georgia. He is the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza and a former Chairman (Omaha Branch board 1989-91), deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.[2] Before his business career he worked as a mathematician in ballistics as a civilian employee of the United States Navy.[3][4] He lives in the Atlanta suburbs, where he also serves as an associate minister at Antioch Baptist Church North."
Cain's 999 plan manages to be the second dumbest economic policy of any candidate, republican or democrat, which is quite a feat. His arbitrary, regressive taxrates that will actually increase income tax for the middle-class are both sub-par and against what most of the republican base wants; the other candidates are obviously choosing to avoid demolishing it until it's propping up his entire campaign. Of course, he's incredible at beating the phrase into the ground to the point where the base might just ignore the actual effects of his plan in favor of buying empty rhetoric anyway - it certainly is the standard procedure for nominees anyway (for all the problems with Obama's time in the oval office, he has lowered taxes and done absolutely nothing about gun rights, but the candidates attack him for 'raising taxes' and 'wanting to take away your guns' anyway). But I doubt it, this is THE one issue he's harping on and the one where he has an advantage in, if the other candidates manage to even somewhat turn the base off his plan he will lose on other topics where his inexperience in politics hurt him.
Still 90%+ chance of Romney getting the republican nomination I'd say, who knows what might happen though.
It's the most immature religion? They probably commit more murders than the rest of the other religions combined, seeing how every other religion has matured.
Islam = immature.
i don't think you can top christianity, pal (no offense, christians)... more specifically, the roman catholic empire, which is still racking up kills. know your history. religion = immature.
I can't stand Cain, his policies or his attitude. If Cain wins the nomination Obama wins in 2012, simple as. Romney needs to be nominated if you republicans want to beat Obama
On October 14 2011 13:00 Insurrectionist wrote: Cain's 999 plan manages to be the second dumbest economic policy of any candidate, republican or democrat, which is quite a feat. His arbitrary, regressive taxrates that will actually increase income tax for the middle-class are both sub-par and against what most of the republican base wants; the other candidates are obviously choosing to avoid demolishing it until it's propping up his entire campaign. Of course, he's incredible at beating the phrase into the ground to the point where the base might just ignore the actual effects of his plan in favor of buying empty rhetoric anyway - it certainly is the standard procedure for nominees anyway (for all the problems with Obama's time in the oval office, he has lowered taxes and done absolutely nothing about gun rights, but the candidates attack him for 'raising taxes' and 'wanting to take away your guns' anyway). But I doubt it, this is THE one issue he's harping on and the one where he has an advantage in, if the other candidates manage to even somewhat turn the base off his plan he will lose on other topics where his inexperience in politics hurt him.
Still 90%+ chance of Romney getting the republican nomination I'd say, who knows what might happen though.
I don't disagree with you. I do ponder if Cain, is trying to deflect by making the Islam comment.
The plan has few outright supporters so far, and I have not seen the dynamic independent study Cain said was done. Still hasn't released it.
On October 14 2011 11:13 Zealotdriver wrote: Lulz. The 9-9-9 build will never work and doesn't even pass the revenue-neutral test despite Cain's claims.
Makes sense that the pizza candidate would be the one to think of a build even cheesier than 1-1-1.
On October 14 2011 12:09 Telcontar wrote: "Don't blame Wall Street. Don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself. It's not a person's fault because they succeeded. It is a person's fault if they failed. And so this is why I don't understand these demonstrations and what is it that they're looking for."
lol. For some reason, I don't think this guy will make a good president.
Pretty much
He lost when he backed Alan Greenspan. I can't believe he said that he was a great fed chairman. The guy who basically oversaw the economy crash is a good guy in cain's book. I think his poll numbers are going to drop faster than ole Ricky. Then it will be back to the biggest liar in the race as the front runner Mitt (please don't call me John Kerry) Romney.
Once again the vote for president will be a complete sham. I voted for Obama to end the wars and change and all I got was 3 more wars and inflation. Everyday Obama makes George W look like a good president. American politics are beyond corrupt.
Cain, just like the rest of them, is just a clueless actor. He has no in-depth knowledge of anything, no set of moral principles and understands no values. He will say whatever he thinks will bring him more power. His job is to project charisma and parrot empty lines some marketing team feeds him.
as some comment on youtube puts it:
"It's Real Simple, I got other people doing my Shit, Because I don't know WTF this all Means. I did not know back then, and I Don't know Now. Heck my Advisors Don't know so It will be more of the Same..."
He's getting a lot of wind in his sails because conservatives are kinda stuck with him at this point. Romney prattles on defending Romneycare and you better believe it that not just a handful of conservatives think he isn't gonna be aggressive rolling back Obamacare, if elected. Perry's got his own issues with illegal alien funding, which I could let go by, if he would just articulate himself well in debates. So the supposed frontrunners are too wishy washy for conservatives, and everybody keeps saying that Romney is doomed to get it.
I would vote tomorrow's blueberry bagel in an ballot against Obama. If I'm stuck with Romney, I'm voting for Romney. But God ... please no. I'd take Cain over him.
On October 14 2011 15:07 Danglars wrote: He's getting a lot of wind in his sails because conservatives are kinda stuck with him at this point. Romney prattles on defending Romneycare and you better believe it that not just a handful of conservatives think he isn't gonna be aggressive rolling back Obamacare, if elected. Perry's got his own issues with illegal alien funding, which I could let go by, if he would just articulate himself well in debates. So the supposed frontrunners are too wishy washy for conservatives, and everybody keeps saying that Romney is doomed to get it.
I would vote tomorrow's blueberry bagel in an ballot against Obama. If I'm stuck with Romney, I'm voting for Romney. But God ... please no. I'd take Cain over him.
You'd trade a liar for a liar? I'll take the blueberry bagel.
On October 14 2011 15:07 Danglars wrote: He's getting a lot of wind in his sails because conservatives are kinda stuck with him at this point. Romney prattles on defending Romneycare and you better believe it that not just a handful of conservatives think he isn't gonna be aggressive rolling back Obamacare, if elected. Perry's got his own issues with illegal alien funding, which I could let go by, if he would just articulate himself well in debates. So the supposed frontrunners are too wishy washy for conservatives, and everybody keeps saying that Romney is doomed to get it.
I would vote tomorrow's blueberry bagel in an ballot against Obama. If I'm stuck with Romney, I'm voting for Romney. But God ... please no. I'd take Cain over him.
You'd trade a liar for a liar? I'll take the blueberry bagel.
at least with a blueberry bagel, you know what you are getting.
On October 14 2011 15:07 Danglars wrote: He's getting a lot of wind in his sails because conservatives are kinda stuck with him at this point. Romney prattles on defending Romneycare and you better believe it that not just a handful of conservatives think he isn't gonna be aggressive rolling back Obamacare, if elected. Perry's got his own issues with illegal alien funding, which I could let go by, if he would just articulate himself well in debates. So the supposed frontrunners are too wishy washy for conservatives, and everybody keeps saying that Romney is doomed to get it.
I would vote tomorrow's blueberry bagel in an ballot against Obama. If I'm stuck with Romney, I'm voting for Romney. But God ... please no. I'd take Cain over him.
You'd trade a liar for a liar? I'll take the blueberry bagel.
at least with a blueberry bagel, you know what you are getting.
Everybody knows that Blueberry Bagel is in the pocket of the Bakers' Unions. Without them he would be nothing -_-
On October 14 2011 14:52 Nausea wrote: I have a hard time seeing the republicans electing a black man. (not intended to offend any republican with a brain)
I'm not as cynical as you, but I think even the openly bigoted Republicans would have an easier time with a black Christian than a white Mormon. The fact that both are front runners right now is pretty cool. The Mormon thing came up a lot in 2008, but not much at all so far this time around. <2
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