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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
September 14 2011 18:48 GMT
#321
Maybe I'm missing something/overlooking the obvious, but this guy should not be jailed.

Mocking someone is now a jailable offense? Not sure when that started...
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 14 2011 18:51 GMT
#322
On September 15 2011 03:48 lizzard_warish wrote:
I know freedom of speech isnt a popular idea anymore, what with the horrors of peoples hurt feelings and all [ people can become sad if you are a meanie!!! </3 ] but this is ridiculous and Britain should be ashamed. What he did was wrong, but it should not be against the law in any civilized country.


Since when should harassment not be against the law in any civilized country?
Campfire
Profile Joined September 2011
United States48 Posts
September 14 2011 18:51 GMT
#323
The whole thing comes down to who puts up a facebook for someone who commited suicide. In the social world today if you put up a social page about someone who commited suicide your going to get trolled by someone regardless.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 14 2011 18:53 GMT
#324
On September 15 2011 03:48 Cloud9157 wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something/overlooking the obvious, but this guy should not be jailed.

Mocking someone is now a jailable offense? Not sure when that started...


Read a few pages back, it was just talked about.
Seriously.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 18:54:15
September 14 2011 18:53 GMT
#325
Jail is too much imo.
This guy seriously needs help if he is like that, jail won't dont much good.
Ryka
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom254 Posts
September 14 2011 18:54 GMT
#326
On September 15 2011 03:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 03:06 Ryka wrote:
On September 15 2011 00:54 Holgerius wrote:
On September 15 2011 00:44 Asday wrote:
What law did he break?

He was persecuted under the Malicious Communications Act.


I'm English and I've never heard of this. If I call you some nasty words on facebook could I be potentially sent to prison? I don't get it, where's the line and what does the law actually say?


If you cause distress or anxiety with those words.
Just because you dumb down a law to something simple doesn't mean its silly or dumb.

Inform yourself.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/27/section/1

There are implications to what your words do and it all depends on the effect or intent to cause with them.


It is silly and it is dumb, there is absolutely no way on god's green earth you should be sent to jail for this. How does it help to spend huge amounts of my tax money locking people like this up instead of simply fining them and cutting off their internet/mobile phone access?

Sure there should be some punishment for extreme harassment (not sure this is extreme as I don't know how persistent he was) but no way a jail sentence.
UndercoverNerd
Profile Joined May 2011
88 Posts
September 14 2011 18:56 GMT
#327
Oh my god, I read the whole OP and all I was thinking about was "Man, you gotta add 'haters gonna hate' to the pic". This just blew my mind. Punishment is needed, but jail? Its a twisted case imo...
hurr gurr.
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 18:57:15
September 14 2011 18:56 GMT
#328
Nanny state for the win...not

Sadly enough, you get jailed for trolling a dead girl on facebook but not for committing actual crimes against humanity. The justice system is beyond fucked.
If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
September 14 2011 18:57 GMT
#329
While he absolutely deserved what he got, how can someone be arrested on charges of malicious communication? Like, don't get me wrong, I think what he did is disgusting and he deserves every bit of it, but I'm just worried about this setting a precedent for violation of...freedom of speech. And I'm not defending him at all, I really don't mean to.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
September 14 2011 19:00 GMT
#330
On September 15 2011 03:43 Voltaire wrote:
I'm glad I don't live in Britain. I can't believe being sentenced to jail over speech still happens in the 21st century western world.

It happens in Europe all the time.

The USA is the only country that truly has freedom of speech, everyone else pretends to, while the rest of the world doesn't even make any pretense.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 14 2011 19:00 GMT
#331
On September 15 2011 03:54 Ryka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 03:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 15 2011 03:06 Ryka wrote:
On September 15 2011 00:54 Holgerius wrote:
On September 15 2011 00:44 Asday wrote:
What law did he break?

He was persecuted under the Malicious Communications Act.


I'm English and I've never heard of this. If I call you some nasty words on facebook could I be potentially sent to prison? I don't get it, where's the line and what does the law actually say?


If you cause distress or anxiety with those words.
Just because you dumb down a law to something simple doesn't mean its silly or dumb.

Inform yourself.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/27/section/1

There are implications to what your words do and it all depends on the effect or intent to cause with them.


It is silly and it is dumb, there is absolutely no way on god's green earth you should be sent to jail for this. How does it help to spend huge amounts of my tax money locking people like this up instead of simply fining them and cutting off their internet/mobile phone access?

Sure there should be some punishment for extreme harassment (not sure this is extreme as I don't know how persistent he was) but no way a jail sentence.


For me, this law should be a case by case scenario.. It depends on the situation and how much distress or anxiety your words, actions or message caused to the person.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
September 14 2011 19:03 GMT
#332
Jail for this? Really? Maybe a fine but jail is too extreme lol.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
September 14 2011 19:06 GMT
#333
On September 15 2011 04:00 MozzarellaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 03:43 Voltaire wrote:
I'm glad I don't live in Britain. I can't believe being sentenced to jail over speech still happens in the 21st century western world.

It happens in Europe all the time.

The USA is the only country that truly has freedom of speech, everyone else pretends to, while the rest of the world doesn't even make any pretense.


Bullshit.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Ryka
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom254 Posts
September 14 2011 19:06 GMT
#334
On September 15 2011 04:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 03:54 Ryka wrote:
On September 15 2011 03:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 15 2011 03:06 Ryka wrote:
On September 15 2011 00:54 Holgerius wrote:
On September 15 2011 00:44 Asday wrote:
What law did he break?

He was persecuted under the Malicious Communications Act.


I'm English and I've never heard of this. If I call you some nasty words on facebook could I be potentially sent to prison? I don't get it, where's the line and what does the law actually say?


If you cause distress or anxiety with those words.
Just because you dumb down a law to something simple doesn't mean its silly or dumb.

Inform yourself.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/27/section/1

There are implications to what your words do and it all depends on the effect or intent to cause with them.


It is silly and it is dumb, there is absolutely no way on god's green earth you should be sent to jail for this. How does it help to spend huge amounts of my tax money locking people like this up instead of simply fining them and cutting off their internet/mobile phone access?

Sure there should be some punishment for extreme harassment (not sure this is extreme as I don't know how persistent he was) but no way a jail sentence.


For me, this law should be a case by case scenario.. It depends on the situation and how much distress or anxiety your words, actions or message caused to the person.


Nobody would argue that I'm sure. But is jail a fair/reasonable punishment considering the cost to the tax payer and the benefit gained?

Definitely for violent crimes jail is the best option, get them out of society asap, but for (albeit severe) internet trolling?
Shrubbles
Profile Joined September 2011
Brazil29 Posts
September 14 2011 19:11 GMT
#335
This is one of the most fucked up minds to ever walk on earth period.
DBOWNIZZ
Profile Joined April 2011
United States66 Posts
September 14 2011 19:14 GMT
#336
On September 15 2011 03:48 Cloud9157 wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something/overlooking the obvious, but this guy should not be jailed.

Mocking someone is now a jailable offense? Not sure when that started...

Um no, if you read through the whole article, you would have read that he was doing much more then "mocking" this mother from a recently deceased daughter. He was harassing more then one person, and it wasn't like your everyday trolls he was going to a whole other level. BTW hardly ever do you see people going and trolling people who just committed suicide so we can throw that out the window right now.

HE DESERVED EVERY BIT OF THE JAIL TIME.
" Aaaannnd see you next time"
MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 19:15:53
September 14 2011 19:15 GMT
#337
On September 15 2011 04:06 Voltaire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 04:00 MozzarellaL wrote:
On September 15 2011 03:43 Voltaire wrote:
I'm glad I don't live in Britain. I can't believe being sentenced to jail over speech still happens in the 21st century western world.

It happens in Europe all the time.

The USA is the only country that truly has freedom of speech, everyone else pretends to, while the rest of the world doesn't even make any pretense.


Bullshit.

Go look up the defamation laws of European countries. Jail time for any offenders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

While most civilized groups are in consensus that a person should never be jailed on account of his mere speech, the following European countries currently jail people for making defamatory statements:

Albania
Austria
Belgium
Croatia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Finland
Germany
Greece
Italy
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland

You call that freedom of speech? No country which sends people to jail on account of what they said can ever be considered to protect speech.
BadgerBadger8264
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 19:17:48
September 14 2011 19:15 GMT
#338
Wow, a kid with a SOCIAL HANDICAP is mean to someone on the internet (no, this is not harrassment, he posted a couple of posts on a public facebook page and made a video of a train), and somehow people find it acceptable to send him to jail for 6 months? Are people really THAT petty and vindicative? "Justice" no matter the cost, right? We should probably just execute anyone for small scale robbery, right?

No, this is going to make society better, you're right, take anyone that is mean on the internet or with social handicaps and lock them up for 6 months along with rapists and murderers. This is clearly a logical answer to the problem and will prevent any future problems with this person. Sure. Straight thinking there buddy. So clever.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 19:18:53
September 14 2011 19:18 GMT
#339
On September 15 2011 04:00 MozzarellaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 03:43 Voltaire wrote:
I'm glad I don't live in Britain. I can't believe being sentenced to jail over speech still happens in the 21st century western world.

It happens in Europe all the time.

The USA is the only country that truly has freedom of speech, everyone else pretends to, while the rest of the world doesn't even make any pretense.


You have no clue. A lot of countries have laws protecting speech in a similar fashion. It's usually not seen as some holy law as some Americans would make you believe.
DBOWNIZZ
Profile Joined April 2011
United States66 Posts
September 14 2011 19:18 GMT
#340
On September 15 2011 04:06 Ryka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 04:00 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 15 2011 03:54 Ryka wrote:
On September 15 2011 03:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 15 2011 03:06 Ryka wrote:
On September 15 2011 00:54 Holgerius wrote:
On September 15 2011 00:44 Asday wrote:
What law did he break?

He was persecuted under the Malicious Communications Act.


I'm English and I've never heard of this. If I call you some nasty words on facebook could I be potentially sent to prison? I don't get it, where's the line and what does the law actually say?


If you cause distress or anxiety with those words.
Just because you dumb down a law to something simple doesn't mean its silly or dumb.

Inform yourself.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/27/section/1

There are implications to what your words do and it all depends on the effect or intent to cause with them.


It is silly and it is dumb, there is absolutely no way on god's green earth you should be sent to jail for this. How does it help to spend huge amounts of my tax money locking people like this up instead of simply fining them and cutting off their internet/mobile phone access?

Sure there should be some punishment for extreme harassment (not sure this is extreme as I don't know how persistent he was) but no way a jail sentence.


For me, this law should be a case by case scenario.. It depends on the situation and how much distress or anxiety your words, actions or message caused to the person.


Nobody would argue that I'm sure. But is jail a fair/reasonable punishment considering the cost to the tax payer and the benefit gained?

Definitely for violent crimes jail is the best option, get them out of society asap, but for (albeit severe) internet trolling?

I do agree with you how much of our Tax money is going to that but since he went to jail its not that significant BUT if he would of went to prison then I think there would be way to much tax payers money going to waste.
Plus he was not in there for that long so I mean, not that big of a deal. Prolly learned his lesson
" Aaaannnd see you next time"
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