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On July 27 2011 01:03 Heavenly wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 22:44 Deadlyfish wrote:On July 26 2011 22:36 Ryder. wrote:On July 26 2011 12:58 MethodSC wrote:On July 26 2011 12:56 ziggurat wrote:
Why would anyone be upset by this? It's obviously just joking around. How many people would see it as joking if a bunch of men were sitting around a table and joking about a man that had cut off his wife's boobs and clit because she wanted a divorce? Doubles standards exist in this world, because we let them. Pointing out hypocrisy is a must. This this this this this Couldn't stand those women, just reeked of feminism and arrogance. This isn't something to laugh about, and if it had of been a woman in that situation I could tell that these women would be the ones rioting in the streets if somebody tried to make fun of it. I can see why some people would find it funny that someones penis got cut off, even though i dont and even though it's very distasteful. However, if it had been a woman in this situation i agree that it would be a lot worse to talk about and makes jokes of. Because this actually does happen to women a lot. This was just some freak who did this, it pretty much never happens, which is why it's acceptable to joke about it. Joking about the same regarding women is way worse in my opinion. I dont see why that is so weird. Men and women shouldn't be treated 100% equally. After all, there is a difference. And in this case i dont see why men feel the need to complain. There is a difference between what you can and cant joke about, and while this is on the edge for sure, it would be worse if you joked about the same happening to a woman. I dont see why anyone even cares about this except maybe the guy who it happened to. It was a joke, stop being pussies about it  Wtf, were you raised by a single mom or something that instilled some weird notion that women are defenseless creatures that should be pampered? I don't understand how any guy could say this. This is a case of a 50 year old man being drugged, tied up, and his dick cut off by his wife. Joking about that isn't "better" than joking about it happening to a woman just because women might get raped more than guys. What happened to that man is the equivalent of any female being mutilated and is even far worse than rape. This guy is not just a "male", he's an individual person who underwent physical and psychological torture at the hands of his insane spouse. I'm sure he wasn't considering gender roles when he watched his dick being cut off. This thread was made because how extremely tasteless these women were on their little feminist talkshow, the same way this thread would have been made if it was a female's situation being mocked by men on CBS. But people like you will come and make light of the situation. Some guys actually care about shit like this because it IS extremely retarded to do this on national television. We are tired of America's media obviously becoming more and more feminist, from all the retarded family shows about the bumbling husband and witty, beautiful wife, all the cute little insurance commercials about the husband picking his nose while his wife negotiates smartly, etc. Women having been the "lesser gender" in the past is no excuse whatsoever for treating men the same way. There probably won't even be a repercussion to what they did but if you say "nappyheaded" about some girls your career is over.
I was not offended by this. I dont care if you cant make this joke about women but you can make it about men.
Lots of comedians have said FAR worse things, and there is nothing wrong with that. Because it's a JOKE. It's like basic humor 101. If you get offended by a joke then ignore it, dont whine about it! What i said is that i think the joke would be far more offensive had it been a women who had got her genitalia cut off. I think most people would agree to that. Even though it's not "rational" or whatever.
However, i dont mind either joke. I dont care if someone makes a joke when this happens to a woman. It'd be far more offensive, but it's still just a joke.
Who gives a shit about equality for stuff that doesnt affect anyone at all? It's just words. Equality is about jobs, rights etc. Not about whether i can make a sandwich or a he-doesnt-have-a-penis joke.
I dont get how guys can be this sensitive...
On July 27 2011 00:56 MiraMax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 22:59 Deadlyfish wrote:On July 26 2011 22:50 MiraMax wrote:On July 26 2011 22:44 Deadlyfish wrote:On July 26 2011 22:36 Ryder. wrote:On July 26 2011 12:58 MethodSC wrote:On July 26 2011 12:56 ziggurat wrote:
Why would anyone be upset by this? It's obviously just joking around. How many people would see it as joking if a bunch of men were sitting around a table and joking about a man that had cut off his wife's boobs and clit because she wanted a divorce? Doubles standards exist in this world, because we let them. Pointing out hypocrisy is a must. This this this this this Couldn't stand those women, just reeked of feminism and arrogance. This isn't something to laugh about, and if it had of been a woman in that situation I could tell that these women would be the ones rioting in the streets if somebody tried to make fun of it. I can see why some people would find it funny that someones penis got cut off, even though i dont and even though it's very distasteful. However, if it had been a woman in this situation i agree that it would be a lot worse to talk about and makes jokes of. Because this actually does happen to women a lot. This was just some freak who did this, it pretty much never happens, which is why it's acceptable to joke about it. Joking about the same regarding women is way worse in my opinion. I dont see why that is so weird. Men and women shouldn't be treated 100% equally. After all, there is a difference. And in this case i dont see why men feel the need to complain. There is a difference between what you can and cant joke about, and while this is on the edge for sure, it would be worse if you joked about the same happening to a woman. I dont see why anyone even cares about this except maybe the guy who it happened to. It was a joke, stop being pussies about it Can you explain the rationale behind why it would be worse to joke about it, if the same happened to a woman? I mean if a husband cut off the clitoris of his wife for filing a divorce and then a bunch of guys would joke about it on tv, having one saying "I don't know the actual circumstance, but I think it's fabulous." I mean I get what would be wrong about it, but it escapes me why the same doesn't apply here? Uh, no? Because it isnt rational. We're talking about feelings and jokes, not about a math problem. Women are weaker than men, and they're usually the ones victims to these sort of crimes, along with rape and so on. And i feel that it would be way worse to joke about that. Women and men dont need to have the exact same norms and standards. I'm not offended by this, but i could see why some women would be if they were talking about a woman. It's all about not offending people, and it has nothing to do with what is rational and what isnt. By your standards somebody could just "feel offended" by anything and all over a sudden this would be a problem. Rationality is the only way we can actually decide whether something is acceptable to joke about publicly or not. How could it be otherwise? I bet had the same woman amputated an arm of the guy, nobody would find an "at least he can still become a one-armed bandit"-joke fit for television. I don't see why this assessment should change in case of the penis. Do you?
I think any joke is fine. There is no problem. All i said was that i could see how a woman would be more offended had it been a joke about a women, and i too would agree that it would be more offensive.
But being offensive is what the joke's all about. And i feel kinda embarassed that us guys cant even handle a simple joke. I thought it was only feminists who got upset about irrelevant stuff, but apparently guys do too.
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apparently guys are sensitive when it comes to cutting your penis off...
the center of all that is manly about a man. some of us might as well suicide if this happened.
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On July 27 2011 01:08 SetStndbySmn wrote:
- The crime itself disgusts me, and I couldn't possibly find it funny in any way. The following thought has little to do with the actual crime, as opposed to the levity in which it was approached and my reaction to it.
- I'm not offended by what these women said.
+The worst offender was Sharon Osbourne. How do you not expect this from her?
+Leah Remini implied it would only be understandable to even think about it as vengeance for rape.
+Another cast member pointed out how sexist they were being.
+It's something I would expect these kinds of women to do on a talk show. I don't have the capacity to be upset over actions I consider them predisposed to do.
+It isn't the same thing as assaulting or mutilating a woman in my eyes. Men and women are different. Maybe it's some misplaced sense of chivalry, but I can't lie and say that an assault on a woman doesn't disturb me more on an instinctual level, even if in a perfectly politically correct world they should be considered one in the same. I got over the whole equal rights vs. special treatment thing when I grew up; a woman hitting a man doesn't bother me, but a man hitting a woman does; magnify the grotesqueness of the situation, and both disturb me, but there is still a small discrepancy between the two cases.
Men and women are physically, and physiologically different yet continually push for "equal treatment." Sure, men rape more women than women rape men, more men beat women than women beat men, but who's to say that were the tables turned, they'd still be the same frail, "we want equal rights" activist that they are? Doubtful.
What gets me is It's when they drop the walls and really put their personalities and moralities on display. These women are in a "position of power", their power is having a sway on the millions of spineless individuals who watch this show and gavel at every word. So, when they act as distasteful as they did, there should be repercussions, no matter the circumstances of their distastefulness. Many, many times on TV casters and reporters have been punished and chastised for their conduct and words towards a group or individual, these women should be treated no differently.
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On July 27 2011 01:32 thedirtyleg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 01:11 Blasterion wrote:On July 27 2011 01:09 TheDougler wrote:
Yeah guys, I agree.
That's fucked.
"I don't know WHY he filed for divorce"
WELL MAYBE BECAUSE SHE'S A CRAZY PSYCHO BITCH!?
Jesus that poor guy... I wonder with modern surgery and medicine if it is possible to restore it.... According to the news story in the OP, they already tried and failed... I'm not a physician, but I think at this point he's looking at 1. just surviving and 2. deciding between a prosthesis and a sex change. Horrible, horrible situation.
I think it's better to just live with it with a prosthesis
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Lots of comedians have said FAR worse things, and there is nothing wrong with that. Because it's a JOKE. It's like basic humor 101. If you get offended by a joke then ignore it, dont whine about it! What i said is that i think the joke would be far more offensive had it been a women who had got her genitalia cut off. I think most people would agree to that. Even though it's not "rational" or whatever.
I think any joke is fine. There is no problem. All i said was that i could see how a woman would be more offended had it been a joke about a women, and i too would agree that it would be more offensive.
But being offensive is what the joke's all about. And i feel kinda embarassed that us guys cant even handle a simple joke. I thought it was only feminists who got upset about irrelevant stuff, but apparently guys do too.
Thing is, this wasn't meant to be a joke. They bring the news and discuss the news, they don't bring the news and make jokes about it. The show puts women in a medial position, letting women run the show. If they can't control themselves long enough to not make a joke, then it's sad. Men don't make jokes about women being raped or mutilated by a man, it's DISTASTEFUL. It has nothing to do with getting offended over a joke. They ALL displayed a lack of moral standards..this man has been scared for life by a psychotic bitch, you shouldn't laugh at his demise...or anyone's demise at that.
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On July 27 2011 01:34 Deadlyfish wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 01:03 Heavenly wrote:On July 26 2011 22:44 Deadlyfish wrote:On July 26 2011 22:36 Ryder. wrote:On July 26 2011 12:58 MethodSC wrote:On July 26 2011 12:56 ziggurat wrote:
Why would anyone be upset by this? It's obviously just joking around. How many people would see it as joking if a bunch of men were sitting around a table and joking about a man that had cut off his wife's boobs and clit because she wanted a divorce? Doubles standards exist in this world, because we let them. Pointing out hypocrisy is a must. This this this this this Couldn't stand those women, just reeked of feminism and arrogance. This isn't something to laugh about, and if it had of been a woman in that situation I could tell that these women would be the ones rioting in the streets if somebody tried to make fun of it. I can see why some people would find it funny that someones penis got cut off, even though i dont and even though it's very distasteful. However, if it had been a woman in this situation i agree that it would be a lot worse to talk about and makes jokes of. Because this actually does happen to women a lot. This was just some freak who did this, it pretty much never happens, which is why it's acceptable to joke about it. Joking about the same regarding women is way worse in my opinion. I dont see why that is so weird. Men and women shouldn't be treated 100% equally. After all, there is a difference. And in this case i dont see why men feel the need to complain. There is a difference between what you can and cant joke about, and while this is on the edge for sure, it would be worse if you joked about the same happening to a woman. I dont see why anyone even cares about this except maybe the guy who it happened to. It was a joke, stop being pussies about it Wtf, were you raised by a single mom or something that instilled some weird notion that women are defenseless creatures that should be pampered? I don't understand how any guy could say this. This is a case of a 50 year old man being drugged, tied up, and his dick cut off by his wife. Joking about that isn't "better" than joking about it happening to a woman just because women might get raped more than guys. What happened to that man is the equivalent of any female being mutilated and is even far worse than rape. This guy is not just a "male", he's an individual person who underwent physical and psychological torture at the hands of his insane spouse. I'm sure he wasn't considering gender roles when he watched his dick being cut off. This thread was made because how extremely tasteless these women were on their little feminist talkshow, the same way this thread would have been made if it was a female's situation being mocked by men on CBS. But people like you will come and make light of the situation. Some guys actually care about shit like this because it IS extremely retarded to do this on national television. We are tired of America's media obviously becoming more and more feminist, from all the retarded family shows about the bumbling husband and witty, beautiful wife, all the cute little insurance commercials about the husband picking his nose while his wife negotiates smartly, etc. Women having been the "lesser gender" in the past is no excuse whatsoever for treating men the same way. There probably won't even be a repercussion to what they did but if you say "nappyheaded" about some girls your career is over. I was not offended by this. I dont care if you cant make this joke about women but you can make it about men. Lots of comedians have said FAR worse things, and there is nothing wrong with that. Because it's a JOKE. It's like basic humor 101. If you get offended by a joke then ignore it, dont whine about it! What i said is that i think the joke would be far more offensive had it been a women who had got her genitalia cut off. I think most people would agree to that. Even though it's not "rational" or whatever. However, i dont mind either joke. I dont care if someone makes a joke when this happens to a woman. It'd be far more offensive, but it's still just a joke. Who gives a shit about equality for stuff that doesnt affect anyone at all? It's just words. Equality is about jobs, rights etc. Not about whether i can make a sandwich or a he-doesnt-have-a-penis joke. I dont get how guys can be this sensitive...
You haven't really made an argument, you've just restated what you stated earlier and then said, "You're sensitive". It doesn't matter if he's offended by this joke, the issue that's relevant is feeling it would be offensive if it were about a women, but is not so because it's a male.
You're basically perpetuating a double standard without even attempting to rationalize it, just saying it's how you feel. There's no argument to be made here, it's just sexism and the perpetuation of a double standard.
This community is quick to find issues about discrimination against men, and tends to be almost obnoxiously vocal about it, but on the other end are imbecilic posts that are basically pure sexism without the realization of what they're perpetuating.
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On July 26 2011 12:56 ziggurat wrote:
Why would anyone be upset by this? It's obviously just joking around.
Try to joke around about men doing a similar thing to women and let's see if people still laugh.
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I feel so bad for him. Imagine if it was the other way around.
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Equivalent would be cracking jokes about a man stabbing a woman vaginally with a knife, after tying her down and drugging her - all because she wanted to divorce him. How would that story have been portrayed by these hosts? I suspect strongly that they wouldn't even identify the exact means that the evil man assaulted the woman in question.
If you can't see how twisted that is, there's no helping you. I have no doubt that there will be a group of people for which this is true.
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Watching that video made me die a little bit inside ;__;
Good for that one lady who tried to point out the double standard there...
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On July 27 2011 01:45 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 01:34 Deadlyfish wrote:On July 27 2011 01:03 Heavenly wrote:On July 26 2011 22:44 Deadlyfish wrote:On July 26 2011 22:36 Ryder. wrote:On July 26 2011 12:58 MethodSC wrote:On July 26 2011 12:56 ziggurat wrote:
Why would anyone be upset by this? It's obviously just joking around. How many people would see it as joking if a bunch of men were sitting around a table and joking about a man that had cut off his wife's boobs and clit because she wanted a divorce? Doubles standards exist in this world, because we let them. Pointing out hypocrisy is a must. This this this this this Couldn't stand those women, just reeked of feminism and arrogance. This isn't something to laugh about, and if it had of been a woman in that situation I could tell that these women would be the ones rioting in the streets if somebody tried to make fun of it. I can see why some people would find it funny that someones penis got cut off, even though i dont and even though it's very distasteful. However, if it had been a woman in this situation i agree that it would be a lot worse to talk about and makes jokes of. Because this actually does happen to women a lot. This was just some freak who did this, it pretty much never happens, which is why it's acceptable to joke about it. Joking about the same regarding women is way worse in my opinion. I dont see why that is so weird. Men and women shouldn't be treated 100% equally. After all, there is a difference. And in this case i dont see why men feel the need to complain. There is a difference between what you can and cant joke about, and while this is on the edge for sure, it would be worse if you joked about the same happening to a woman. I dont see why anyone even cares about this except maybe the guy who it happened to. It was a joke, stop being pussies about it Wtf, were you raised by a single mom or something that instilled some weird notion that women are defenseless creatures that should be pampered? I don't understand how any guy could say this. This is a case of a 50 year old man being drugged, tied up, and his dick cut off by his wife. Joking about that isn't "better" than joking about it happening to a woman just because women might get raped more than guys. What happened to that man is the equivalent of any female being mutilated and is even far worse than rape. This guy is not just a "male", he's an individual person who underwent physical and psychological torture at the hands of his insane spouse. I'm sure he wasn't considering gender roles when he watched his dick being cut off. This thread was made because how extremely tasteless these women were on their little feminist talkshow, the same way this thread would have been made if it was a female's situation being mocked by men on CBS. But people like you will come and make light of the situation. Some guys actually care about shit like this because it IS extremely retarded to do this on national television. We are tired of America's media obviously becoming more and more feminist, from all the retarded family shows about the bumbling husband and witty, beautiful wife, all the cute little insurance commercials about the husband picking his nose while his wife negotiates smartly, etc. Women having been the "lesser gender" in the past is no excuse whatsoever for treating men the same way. There probably won't even be a repercussion to what they did but if you say "nappyheaded" about some girls your career is over. I was not offended by this. I dont care if you cant make this joke about women but you can make it about men. Lots of comedians have said FAR worse things, and there is nothing wrong with that. Because it's a JOKE. It's like basic humor 101. If you get offended by a joke then ignore it, dont whine about it! What i said is that i think the joke would be far more offensive had it been a women who had got her genitalia cut off. I think most people would agree to that. Even though it's not "rational" or whatever. However, i dont mind either joke. I dont care if someone makes a joke when this happens to a woman. It'd be far more offensive, but it's still just a joke. Who gives a shit about equality for stuff that doesnt affect anyone at all? It's just words. Equality is about jobs, rights etc. Not about whether i can make a sandwich or a he-doesnt-have-a-penis joke. I dont get how guys can be this sensitive... You haven't really made an argument, you've just restated what you stated earlier and then said, "You're sensitive". It doesn't matter if he's offended by this joke, the issue that's relevant is feeling it would be offensive if it were about a women, but is not so because it's a male. You're basically perpetuating a double standard without even attempting to rationalize it, just saying it's how you feel. There's no argument to be made here, it's just sexism and the perpetuation of a double standard. This community is quick to find issues about discrimination against men, and tends to be almost obnoxiously vocal about it, but on the other end are imbecilic posts that are basically pure sexism without the realization of what they're perpetuating.
I'm not rationalizing it because it's not rational.
I dont see an issue with the double standard for men and women. It's not sexist just because men and women arent equal in every right.
Basically my whole argument is that it's not problem that joking about women is viewed as being more offensive. And i also agree that it is indeed more offensive. Why is it more offensive? Because i feel that way, and most people do i believe.
If more people feel offended then it's more offensive. End of story. And more people feel offended by a joke about a woman. It's not rational, but people shouldnt even be offended in the first place.
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Totally disgusting. The double standards on that show are appauling too, at least one of them had the decency to point out how bad it was. Talk about equal rights for women... I think it's gone way beyond "equal rights" in some areas. I also hope the dude gets some sort of replacement as long as it's not something silly like in Space Truckers.
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and this is why i will always refer to women as bitches. The ozbourne woman really was the true crazy one though in that group and instigated a lot of the joking. What do you expect from her lot. Props to the one bitch who stood up for the bros.
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Leno can make cruel jokes about it and nobody bats an eye but sharon osbourne jokes about it and everyone is up in arms?
we've socially accepted male genital mutilation as comedic in nature as evidenced by the million+ view youtube clips of people being hit in the nuts. i'll believe otherwise if someone can find a million view clip of a woman being hit in the genitals and the rest of the comments going LOLOLOL.
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On July 27 2011 01:34 Deadlyfish wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 00:56 MiraMax wrote:On July 26 2011 22:59 Deadlyfish wrote:On July 26 2011 22:50 MiraMax wrote:On July 26 2011 22:44 Deadlyfish wrote:On July 26 2011 22:36 Ryder. wrote:On July 26 2011 12:58 MethodSC wrote:On July 26 2011 12:56 ziggurat wrote:
Why would anyone be upset by this? It's obviously just joking around. How many people would see it as joking if a bunch of men were sitting around a table and joking about a man that had cut off his wife's boobs and clit because she wanted a divorce? Doubles standards exist in this world, because we let them. Pointing out hypocrisy is a must. This this this this this Couldn't stand those women, just reeked of feminism and arrogance. This isn't something to laugh about, and if it had of been a woman in that situation I could tell that these women would be the ones rioting in the streets if somebody tried to make fun of it. I can see why some people would find it funny that someones penis got cut off, even though i dont and even though it's very distasteful. However, if it had been a woman in this situation i agree that it would be a lot worse to talk about and makes jokes of. Because this actually does happen to women a lot. This was just some freak who did this, it pretty much never happens, which is why it's acceptable to joke about it. Joking about the same regarding women is way worse in my opinion. I dont see why that is so weird. Men and women shouldn't be treated 100% equally. After all, there is a difference. And in this case i dont see why men feel the need to complain. There is a difference between what you can and cant joke about, and while this is on the edge for sure, it would be worse if you joked about the same happening to a woman. I dont see why anyone even cares about this except maybe the guy who it happened to. It was a joke, stop being pussies about it Can you explain the rationale behind why it would be worse to joke about it, if the same happened to a woman? I mean if a husband cut off the clitoris of his wife for filing a divorce and then a bunch of guys would joke about it on tv, having one saying "I don't know the actual circumstance, but I think it's fabulous." I mean I get what would be wrong about it, but it escapes me why the same doesn't apply here? Uh, no? Because it isnt rational. We're talking about feelings and jokes, not about a math problem. Women are weaker than men, and they're usually the ones victims to these sort of crimes, along with rape and so on. And i feel that it would be way worse to joke about that. Women and men dont need to have the exact same norms and standards. I'm not offended by this, but i could see why some women would be if they were talking about a woman. It's all about not offending people, and it has nothing to do with what is rational and what isnt. By your standards somebody could just "feel offended" by anything and all over a sudden this would be a problem. Rationality is the only way we can actually decide whether something is acceptable to joke about publicly or not. How could it be otherwise? I bet had the same woman amputated an arm of the guy, nobody would find an "at least he can still become a one-armed bandit"-joke fit for television. I don't see why this assessment should change in case of the penis. Do you? I think any joke is fine. There is no problem. All i said was that i could see how a woman would be more offended had it been a joke about a women, and i too would agree that it would be more offensive. But being offensive is what the joke's all about. And i feel kinda embarassed that us guys cant even handle a simple joke. I thought it was only feminists who got upset about irrelevant stuff, but apparently guys do too.
Well, it certainly seems that "guys" can suck at consistency at times. I don't feel offended at all by the jokes. Why would I? Nonetheless I can use my mental capacity to see that it is inappropriate. No more, no less. And I can see that there is something wrong with somebody who thinks that the fact that it was a man being mutilated makes the joke better (or less bad, or whatever). Be that person a guy or a gal. I also think it's strange that you can feel embarassed about what other "guys" do or don't do, just because you happen to be a guy as well, but then again at least this part seems to fits with your other views...
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The woman who did the dick-cutting is a psycho. She mutilated her husband, and should absolutely be punished. This *particular* woman is a crazy bitch, well worth your scathing remarks. What she did is horrible.
The women who make light of it on a trashy daytime television show aimed at uneducated housewives are doing everyone a disservice. But really, Sharon Osborne? Who cares what that spoiled media darling thinks? But no, they should not be joking so much about the very cruel mutilation of another human being.
But some of the comments in this thread, "this is why all women should be called bitches," or, "woe is the plight of men in this country!", are ridiculous.
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Rather sick news. The women should be sent to an insane asylum. As for The Talk joking about it, they do have some right to joke about it as they are comedians (whether you think they are funny or not). They are still pushing it tho.
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On July 27 2011 02:03 Terranist wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Leno can make cruel jokes about it and nobody bats an eye but sharon osbourne jokes about it and everyone is up in arms? we've socially accepted male genital mutilation as comedic in nature as evidenced by the million+ view youtube clips of people being hit in the nuts. i'll believe otherwise if someone can find a million view clip of a woman being hit in the genitals and the rest of the comments going LOLOLOL.
Being hit in the nuts is completely different to having them cut off, that's like saying laughing at someone being shot in the head is ok because people get hit over the head in silly youtube videos all the time.
Also if Leno made cruel jokes about it then he's as bad as Sharon.
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On July 27 2011 01:40 zachMEISTER wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 01:08 SetStndbySmn wrote:
- The crime itself disgusts me, and I couldn't possibly find it funny in any way. The following thought has little to do with the actual crime, as opposed to the levity in which it was approached and my reaction to it.
- I'm not offended by what these women said.
+The worst offender was Sharon Osbourne. How do you not expect this from her?
+Leah Remini implied it would only be understandable to even think about it as vengeance for rape.
+Another cast member pointed out how sexist they were being.
+It's something I would expect these kinds of women to do on a talk show. I don't have the capacity to be upset over actions I consider them predisposed to do.
+It isn't the same thing as assaulting or mutilating a woman in my eyes. Men and women are different. Maybe it's some misplaced sense of chivalry, but I can't lie and say that an assault on a woman doesn't disturb me more on an instinctual level, even if in a perfectly politically correct world they should be considered one in the same. I got over the whole equal rights vs. special treatment thing when I grew up; a woman hitting a man doesn't bother me, but a man hitting a woman does; magnify the grotesqueness of the situation, and both disturb me, but there is still a small discrepancy between the two cases. Men and women are physically, and physiologically different yet continually push for "equal treatment." Sure, men rape more women than women rape men, more men beat women than women beat men, but who's to say that were the tables turned, they'd still be the same frail, "we want equal rights" activist that they are? Doubtful. What gets me is It's when they drop the walls and really put their personalities and moralities on display. These women are in a "position of power", their power is having a sway on the millions of spineless individuals who watch this show and gavel at every word. So, when they act as distasteful as they did, there should be repercussions, no matter the circumstances of their distastefulness. Many, many times on TV casters and reporters have been punished and chastised for their conduct and words towards a group or individual, these women should be treated no differently.
Oh I fully agree. My post is simply my own personal level of offense, in which I purposefully avoided being overly logical over something that is inescapably laced by illogical sentiments (gender comparison). There should be repercussions, and an apology.
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