EPT[Old] The massacre in Norway - Page 2
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:17 TerlocSG wrote: maximum sentence for murder is 21 years? does it multiply in norway like it does in the US? like if he killed 80 people does he get 21 x 80 years? seems like 21 years isnt enough time to make up for what he did No but: The maximum jail time for murder is 21 years. However, you can be put into what we call "Forvaring". Forvaring is basically the same as prison, but instead of being there as your punishment, you are deemed to dangerous to be put back into society. This sentence can be up to 21 years. When the sentence is almost up, the persons behavior and current situation will be reaccessed, and if he is deemed fit to go back to society, he will be let into society. If he is deemed unfit, he can be put into another 5 years of Forvaring. This process repeats until the person is either let back into society, or he dies. Chances are he'll be continually be deemed a danger to society and never let out. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
The motive for the attack has never been known. It is such a terrible waste of lives for something like this to occur. | ||
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Kamuy
United States212 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:17 TerlocSG wrote: maximum sentence for murder is 21 years? does it multiply in norway like it does in the US? like if he killed 80 people does he get 21 x 80 years? seems like 21 years isnt enough time to make up for what he did Read past the first line please... I HIGHLY doubt norway would allow only 21 years for this. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:20 XenOmega wrote: I am of those that believe we should never make exceptions... If we truly believe in the ideals of our society, one madman, no matter his crimes, should not move us away from our own ideals. If we do, then the killer not only destroyed lives, he also destroyed our way of life. This is perhaps one of the better posts I have read here on TL. Thank you. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
does it multiply in norway like it does in the US? like if he killed 80 people does he get 21 x 80 years? seems like 21 years isnt enough time to make up for what he did 80 murders usually just gets life sentence multiple times without parole im guessing | ||
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Laevateinn
Norway115 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:17 TerlocSG wrote: maximum sentence for murder is 21 years? does it multiply in norway like it does in the US? like if he killed 80 people does he get 21 x 80 years? seems like 21 years isnt enough time to make up for what he did No, it does not add up. Maximum prison sentence at all is 21 years. Forvaring on the other hand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway Also; read all of the OP. | ||
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JethroTV
United States206 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Something about the level of personal interaction that had to exist for a brief moment between the gunman and every person he executed. The amount of cold-heartedness required to do such a thing seems unreal. This whole thing seems unreal. | ||
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The_Australian
Australia458 Posts
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SockArms
United States591 Posts
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reneg
United States859 Posts
Does anyone know anything about the incident where the police took him? I haven't seen anything about it. Did the police just show up and he lay down his weapons and go peacefully? I can't even imagine that he'd go that easily without putting up a fight. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
That picture is fucking atrocious btw. I am really curious to see how this plays out politically and culturally in Norway but ofc we'll get little to no coverage here in the US. Everything is about the debt. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Norway Prison Cell] + ![[image loading]](http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/140/140433/14043337/jpg/active/960x.jpg) | ||
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Laevateinn
Norway115 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:26 On_Slaught wrote: Even if he is kept in jail on a technicality (he is "unsafe" which he clearly is), it doesn't feel right that he would be convicted of the same crime and get the same sentence as a 'normal' killer. Also, aren't Norway prisons famous for not being horrible? That picture is fucking atrocious btw. I am really curious to see how this plays out politically and culturally in Norway but ofc we'll get little to no coverage here in the US. Everything is about the debt. Our prisons are "famous" for being quite comfy, yes. The reason they are is because our prisons are partly there to punish, mostly there to rehabilitate. We want our prisoners to be able to contribute to society when they get out. Convicting him in any other way than the ways we currently use would be a terrible idea. | ||
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hookyelyak
Egypt184 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:26 On_Slaught wrote: Even if he is kept in jail on a technicality (he is "unsafe" which he clearly is), it doesn't feel right that he would be convicted of the same crime and get the same sentence as a 'normal' killer. Also, aren't Norway prisons famous for not being horrible? That picture is fucking atrocious btw. I am really curious to see how this plays out politically and culturally in Norway but ofc we'll get little to no coverage here in the US. Everything is about the debt. That's one thing I could barely understand while I was at work today. How LITTLE Press this got on the news. I was even checking twitter on my phone, and noticed a tweet from Neil Gaiman abt how #Oslo & #Norway were trending globally and in several locals, but weren't trending in the US at all. It pretty much made me sick to my stomach to see how little exposure it got over here. This is an enormous deal, but i'm hoping that tomorrow the coverage will be much higher, to help promote awareness and raise aid for Norway... | ||
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Callobono
Norway57 Posts
Even though they are criminals they dont take kindly to this kind of thing. | ||
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