EPT[Old] The massacre in Norway - Page 3
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RisingTide
Australia769 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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KryptoStorm
England377 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:26 reneg wrote: This is absolutely awful. It's hard to even fathom what the people on the island were going through. Thoughts and prayers for all of them and their families. Does anyone know anything about the incident where the police took him? I haven't seen anything about it. Did the police just show up and he lay down his weapons and go peacefully? I can't even imagine that he'd go that easily without putting up a fight. Yeah i've been watching all threads regarding this incident and had the news on ALL night since and seen/learned nothing of how the arrest went down :S Also on the news I just noticed, it looked like a shot from a helicopter, it was hard to tell but it looked like the police were formed behind a van, maybe 10 of them and then there was a man seperated about 15-20 feet away on the other side of the van (he looked like police obviously but he wasn't with them behind the van) it was hard to tell what exactly we were looking at and the news don't tell us what is going on in the actual shot..they just show it and expect us to know -____-. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:33 Fionn wrote: A cell in Halden Prison, Norway's newest high security prison (Trent Isaksen/Statsbygg) Nicer than my room lolz | ||
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starcraft2rush
306 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:33 Fionn wrote: A cell in Halden Prison, Norway's newest high security prison (Trent Isaksen/Statsbygg) oh my god its sickening. | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Did he run out of ammo? Did he just surrender? Was he tackled by security? Why didn't they shoot him if he had a gun shooting wildly? etc. | ||
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reneg
United States859 Posts
But i mean, do we know much about the Norwegian Prison System? Can someone account for if it's largely solitary confinement (which i feel like would be pretty brutal after a few years of being basically by yourself) Or if it does in fact function more like a rehab center where there are social times and counselors etc to help facilitate the rehab process? | ||
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DtorR
Australia171 Posts
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appletree
Denmark109 Posts
From what I can read it says that some are still missing, can't stop imagining some 13 year old kid in chock, still hiding somewhere on the island to scared to come out... Also in 30 min. from when this was posted, the PM and chief of police will update their official statement. | ||
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woob
United Kingdom1322 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:37 DtorR wrote: He doesn't deserve prison time, he deserves to be executed. Seriously people committing these atrocities is un-f'ing-forgiveable. I can't imagine how all the loved ones of the victims must be feeling right now. capital punishment is never the answer, im sure he would much rather be painlessly killed than spend 60~ years in prison | ||
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Laevateinn
Norway115 Posts
Not sure if you can see it outside of Norway, but PM will be doing a press conference at 8.00. | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
Even if he is kept in jail on a technicality (he is "unsafe" which he clearly is), it doesn't feel right that he would be convicted of the same crime and get the same sentence as a 'normal' killer. Also, aren't Norway prisons famous for not being horrible? How could you extract justice for even one of these people from him? his suffering could never equal that of those he killed and their relations even if that was justice. Norway's prisons are not designed to inflict suffering on their inhabitants, but to keep them away from people they could harm. It's a good system, they are good people. Perhaps even this guy, in some ways, was a good man, but what he did today was monstrous and society can never trust him amongst them again. He should never see freedom again, never have the chance to do what he did again. That's what the prison is for. Not vengeance, just certainty. | ||
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Bobble
Australia1493 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:37 DtorR wrote: He doesn't deserve prison time, he deserves to be executed. Seriously people committing these atrocities is un-f'ing-forgiveable. I can't imagine how all the loved ones of the victims must be feeling right now. As said before, I think it's a better punishment to let him rot in jail forever than to kill him off now. | ||
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StendHalArt
New Zealand55 Posts
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pyrogenetix
China5094 Posts
Absolutely insane. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:39 Thereisnosaurus wrote: How could you extract justice for even one of these people from him? his suffering could never equal that of those he killed and their relations even if that was justice. Norway's prisons are not designed to inflict suffering on their inhabitants, but to keep them away from people they could harm. It's a good system, they are good people. Perhaps even this guy, in some ways, was a good man, but what he did today was monstrous and society can never trust him amongst them again. He should never see freedom again. Therefore he should live in the equivalent of a 3star hotel room? Would he even get a computer like that other guy has? I can understand having these kind of cells for rehabilitation, for when you know you aren't going to ever let somebody else he shouldn't get the same treatment. Unless ofc you think there is a day that will come when it's ok to release this person. | ||
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
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woob
United Kingdom1322 Posts
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:38 appletree wrote: Heartbreaking. Can't stop thinking about all the kids that were on the island when it happened. From what I can read it says that some are still missing, can't stop imagining some 13 year old kid in chock, still hiding somewhere on the island to scared to come out... Also in 30 min. from when this was posted, the PM and chief of police will update their official statement. Agreed, i can't imagine how terrifying it would be for that. I mean, Here's a situation where what looked like a police officer opened fire on you and your friends. And now the police are calling for you to come out? I feel like that's the exact thing i'd be terrified of doing, and i'd personally stay hidden for a while longer. I feel like to expect anyone to do anything else, would be rash and dangerous. I hope they turn up okay | ||
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