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Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect!
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
April 26 2012 22:17 GMT
#2841
On April 22 2012 00:51 feanor1 wrote:
Does the Internet Breed Killers

The lead headline of the international edition of CNN.com

The article closes out with this gem.
Show nested quote +
Most troubling of all is Breivik's obsession with the multiplayer role-playing World of Warcraft, a violent online game that he played "full-time" between 2006 and 2007. Indeed, one of the few times that he smiled this week was when the image of his World of Warcraft character was displayed in court.
Some apologists for video games have suggested that Breivik's addiction to World of Warcraft "means nothing at all." But they are wrong. Given his absolute absence of remorse over the murders, it's not hard to imagine that this obsession with violent online games has enabled him to somehow virtualize the killing of real people, transforming them from flesh and blood characters into abstractions.
I have to agree with Thomas Indrebo. The death penalty is, indeed, the only just sentence in the Breivik case. That said, however, this case isn't just about a single delusional character. Breivik's obsession with violent online games, his narcissism, his reliance on Wikipedia and Facebook are warnings about how digital media can corrupt our grasp of reality. Breivik may be a worst case scenario, but I fear that there will be more young men like him in future if virtual reality becomes our only reality.

I just think the reason he smiled is the same reason I smiled when I saw that. I think he is just laughing at them, if I was him I wouldve facepalmed. Especially when they mentioned the justicar title.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
April 26 2012 22:24 GMT
#2842
On April 22 2012 21:30 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 00:51 feanor1 wrote:
Does the Internet Breed Killers

The lead headline of the international edition of CNN.com

The article closes out with this gem.
Most troubling of all is Breivik's obsession with the multiplayer role-playing World of Warcraft, a violent online game that he played "full-time" between 2006 and 2007. Indeed, one of the few times that he smiled this week was when the image of his World of Warcraft character was displayed in court.
Some apologists for video games have suggested that Breivik's addiction to World of Warcraft "means nothing at all." But they are wrong. Given his absolute absence of remorse over the murders, it's not hard to imagine that this obsession with violent online games has enabled him to somehow virtualize the killing of real people, transforming them from flesh and blood characters into abstractions.
I have to agree with Thomas Indrebo. The death penalty is, indeed, the only just sentence in the Breivik case. That said, however, this case isn't just about a single delusional character. Breivik's obsession with violent online games, his narcissism, his reliance on Wikipedia and Facebook are warnings about how digital media can corrupt our grasp of reality. Breivik may be a worst case scenario, but I fear that there will be more young men like him in future if virtual reality becomes our only reality.


Yup, couldn't take it seriously after that. Actually I could never take it seriously, but at least I couldn't get pissed about it in the slightest after that.

"wikipedia! 'Tis evil, people! We must stop the spread of information! Let me lead the way back to the dark ages! NO INFORMATION! YES!"

Ugh, please.


I don't think even this guy believe wikipedia is the problem, but rather the fact that a large number of people take anything they read on the internet as the truth.
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
dark14cs
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
143 Posts
April 26 2012 22:25 GMT
#2843
On April 27 2012 07:17 Roflhaxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 00:51 feanor1 wrote:
Does the Internet Breed Killers



Breivik admitted: "There are only two just and fair outcomes of this case. One is an acquittal, the other is capital punishment."

We are dealing with an Evil that takes Reality more seriously than we do.
IntoTheWow wrote: i think idra said it best -- the tl admins need to get the sand out of their vaginas
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
April 26 2012 23:24 GMT
#2844
On April 27 2012 07:25 dark14cs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 07:17 Roflhaxx wrote:
On April 22 2012 00:51 feanor1 wrote:
Does the Internet Breed Killers



Breivik admitted: "There are only two just and fair outcomes of this case. One is an acquittal, the other is capital punishment."

We are dealing with an Evil that takes Reality more seriously than we do.


That's just him trying to push for a win-win situation. The biggest possible punishment you can give him is treating him like any other criminal in the history of Norway.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 26 2012 23:47 GMT
#2845
On April 27 2012 08:24 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 07:25 dark14cs wrote:
On April 27 2012 07:17 Roflhaxx wrote:
On April 22 2012 00:51 feanor1 wrote:
Does the Internet Breed Killers



Breivik admitted: "There are only two just and fair outcomes of this case. One is an acquittal, the other is capital punishment."

We are dealing with an Evil that takes Reality more seriously than we do.


That's just him trying to push for a win-win situation. The biggest possible punishment you can give him is treating him like any other criminal in the history of Norway.


Yup. If you give someone what they want, you create a martyr. If they put him in prison for 19 years and just always extend his incarceration every time a review occurs then he is punished more harshly than he wants to be.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
August 22 2012 10:21 GMT
#2846
So this friday hes going to get his sentence, rigth? What do you think?
Also in the papers it were an article about him writing on a biography that might get published. The article said that he said that some publishers are interested in realeasing his biography. In case this get published, who will recieve the money? The publishers cant take all the money, can they?
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Ezaura_au
Profile Joined August 2012
114 Posts
August 22 2012 10:34 GMT
#2847
I wondered about that. I don't think there's a law in Norway (or perhaps any other countries) that prevent people in prison from selling goods - there's this Norwegian metal musician Burzum who has been releasing albums from jail. It's really disgusting and hopefully this biography doesn't come into fruition.
Myrtroll
Profile Joined December 2010
139 Posts
August 22 2012 10:49 GMT
#2848
He won't ever get any of that money if it sells at all. Everything he earns from prison will go to the victims families. So don't worry about him getting rich from this, that will never happen.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 22 2012 11:03 GMT
#2849
On August 22 2012 19:49 Myrtroll wrote:
He won't ever get any of that money if it sells at all. Everything he earns from prison will go to the victims families. So don't worry about him getting rich from this, that will never happen.


How do you know that? It's not like his income for the next 50 years will go to the victims families beacuse he is in jail. The sentence isn't even out yet.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Myrtroll
Profile Joined December 2010
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 11:42:21
August 22 2012 11:41 GMT
#2850
On August 22 2012 20:03 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 19:49 Myrtroll wrote:
He won't ever get any of that money if it sells at all. Everything he earns from prison will go to the victims families. So don't worry about him getting rich from this, that will never happen.


How do you know that? It's not like his income for the next 50 years will go to the victims families beacuse he is in jail. The sentence isn't even out yet.


He is sentenced to reparations for all the damages he has caused as well. The Norwegian state already has guaranteed for compensation to victims, so anything he earns outside his own living expenses (if he ever gets out), will go to the Norwegian state since they are his biggest creditor. And even if he is declared insane, the reparations stand, so either way he will owe money for the rest of his life.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
August 22 2012 13:15 GMT
#2851
Such a sad story. It is so sad that things like this have to happen in this world. I wish everyone seen sense.
Luppa <3
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4016 Posts
August 24 2012 08:23 GMT
#2852
So, guilty and sane, 21 years + more. Received his sentense with a smile. What more to say ...
Drone is a way of living
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:26:22
August 24 2012 08:25 GMT
#2853
Only 21 years lol. It is a sad day

If I was a judge there I would give him a life sentence and order him to be locked up in a jail known for male rape between inmates and have guards there ignore what other prisoners do to him...

User was temp banned for this post.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15345 Posts
August 24 2012 08:26 GMT
#2854
21 is the maximum sentence in Norway, right? So that + extended detention afterwards is as much as he could have gotten.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
August 24 2012 08:29 GMT
#2855
On August 24 2012 17:25 -Archangel- wrote:
Only 21 years lol. It is a sad day

If I was a judge there I would give him a life sentence and order him to be locked up in a jail known for male rape between inmates and have guards there ignore what other prisoners do to him...


Justice =/= Vengeance.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 24 2012 08:29 GMT
#2856
On August 24 2012 17:25 -Archangel- wrote:
Only 21 years lol. It is a sad day


They can't sentence him to more than 21years in Norway. But they still have the choice of "preventive detention" (that's what dict.cc tells me at least) afterwards.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
August 24 2012 08:32 GMT
#2857
On August 24 2012 17:29 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:25 -Archangel- wrote:
Only 21 years lol. It is a sad day


They can't sentence him to more than 21years in Norway. But they still have the choice of "preventive detention" (that's what dict.cc tells me at least) afterwards.


From what i understad they gave him 21 years (max sentence) Then they can add on 5 more years after the 21 years, and they can pretty much add 5 more years as many times they want to. I doubt they'd do that sadly, the guy deserves to rot in jail for life
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 24 2012 08:35 GMT
#2858
On August 24 2012 17:32 Solarist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:29 FliedLice wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:25 -Archangel- wrote:
Only 21 years lol. It is a sad day


They can't sentence him to more than 21years in Norway. But they still have the choice of "preventive detention" (that's what dict.cc tells me at least) afterwards.


From what i understad they gave him 21 years (max sentence) Then they can add on 5 more years after the 21 years, and they can pretty much add 5 more years as many times they want to. I doubt they'd do that sadly, the guy deserves to rot in jail for life


Pretty sure they're going to do exactly that.

Even if they didn't, there'd be someone waiting waiting for him the day he gets out of jail...
Kevmeister @ Dota2
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
August 24 2012 09:00 GMT
#2859
well he is sentenced to 21 years of isolation. He will have tv and newspapers but no access to the internet or other inmates. And yes very likely his sentence will get extended indefinitely.
This is literally the harshest punishment Norway has to offer so people who want something worse, well that's literally impossible.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:12:22
August 24 2012 09:11 GMT
#2860
On August 24 2012 17:29 Agathon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:25 -Archangel- wrote:
Only 21 years lol. It is a sad day

If I was a judge there I would give him a life sentence and order him to be locked up in a jail known for male rape between inmates and have guards there ignore what other prisoners do to him...


Justice =/= Vengeance.

Justice is a relative term that changes from one country to another. And Vengeance is not something that is automatically bad. It lets the families of the lost ones deal with their grief easier.
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