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On December 29 2012 09:59 Arghmyliver wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 09:50 JingleHell wrote:On December 29 2012 09:44 Arghmyliver wrote:On December 29 2012 09:27 JingleHell wrote:On December 29 2012 09:20 Arghmyliver wrote:On December 29 2012 09:14 GypsyBeast wrote:On December 29 2012 09:07 Diks wrote:On December 29 2012 08:59 GypsyBeast wrote:On December 29 2012 08:45 Arghmyliver wrote:
Assault rifles why do you own them?
What is your justification for owning an AK-47 in the suburban US? Just curious.
Why do you own AK-47s (assault rifles, combat shotguns, military-grade weaponry in general)? why does anyone own anything hobby related? Each gun has a different feel and a different experience comes when you own and shoot that gun, some people want that experience. This question is kinda like asking "well you have the 10 dollar bottle of bourbon, why would you ever buy a 40$ bottle?" or "you have CDs why would you have vinyl?" The bottle of bourbon : You can drink it The vinyl : you can listen to it The shotgun in suburban US : that's what he tried to figure out. No offence but you didn't really answer to the question shotgun in the suburban us : you can go to a range or a farm and hunt or shoot with it. (some people also keep have them for home defense but w/e) clear enough? I'm not really sure what you dont understand, just because you keep it at home does not mean you are only allowed to use it there. Yeah so you go to the shooting range - fine - but what is the added recreational value of a combat shotgun or assault rifle compared to a model made for hunting? Can you please explain the functional differences between the following firearms? ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/AR15_A3_Tactical_Carbine_pic1.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.gunlistings.org/uploads/1_rifles_ruger_mini_14_ranch_rifle_5.56.223_97851.jpg) Is either unreasonable, and if so, why? If someone chooses to purchase one or the other because it's what they like, that's on them. I'm not saying either is reasonable or unreasonable - but I imagine the one in the top picture costs a lot more. I don't know anything about guns besides which end the bullet comes out of - but the top picture is an AR15 and the bottom picture is a hunting rifle of some kind with accessories that make it basically the AR15, i imagine it probably fires the same rounds (prbly .22?). They're functionally very similar. They fire 5.56mm bullets, they're semi-automatic, gas powered, magazine fed, with interchangeable magazines. If I was going on a rampage, the pistol grip, carrying handles, and accessory rails on the AR would mean roughly jack shit to me. In actuality, if you're even vaguely for gun control, you should consider the "military style" AR better for civilians, since it's prohibitively expensive and not sold at Wal-Mart. Sure, they're a little different to shoot, but a lot of that is like the differences between different mice or keyboards for gaming. Some people like one, others don't. Personal preference and aesthetics don't make a gun more or less acceptable to own. Just a pure case of different strokes for different folks. If I enjoy shooting one, I could enjoy shooting the other. I might prefer one or the other for X arbitrary reason, but it doesn't make a huge difference. On December 29 2012 09:44 Aveng3r wrote:On December 29 2012 09:37 JingleHell wrote:On December 29 2012 09:34 Aveng3r wrote:
the m14 seems like a piece of junk compared to the ar-15 models? AR-15's are either junk or absurdly expensive. For what you get, I don't consider them worth it in the slightest. My friend has one he just built. I've thought about buying an AR lower soon just to have a grandfathered serial number if they do pass something. Value would probably triple or more 6 months after any new ban went into effect. Ide never go for an ar15 model myself, ive heard too many stories about them still being unreliable.. Ide definitly go for an m14 if I could, maybe an ak would be cheaper to get though ps does the one your friend built have a full auto capability, and is that even possible/legal to get as a civilian? I wouldn't mind an AK myself. They're fun to shoot. And no, my friend doesn't have the appropriate license to own a select fire, his is semi-only. Semi is better anyways, automatic burns through ammo rather quickly, costing a ton, and burst is annoying as hell. See there - I totally agree with this one. Not only are you able to defend your hobby - you are also frugal and non-excessive about it. I just don't see how someone can economically justify owning a fully automatic weapon with like a 30 round clip.
The same way people economically justify owning a Ferrari, a 3000+ sq/ft home with an indoor pool, a big screen TV, video gaming stuff, computers, nice clothes, eating out, or basically ANY other luxury expenditure?
Also, I'm frugal with it by need, not by choice. If I had the spare budget, I'd own some land in the middle of nowhere to build a private range, put a small RV out there, get some horses, and take my wife and son and friends out there every weekend to go camping and shooting. I can't do that, but I don't begrudge people who spend more on the hobby than me.
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On December 29 2012 08:16 Detri wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 08:09 ahswtini wrote:
Got myself a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow, with tuned trigger and hammer. How the hell did you get the licence for a handgun in Northern Ireland?! Always wanted one, but I thought unless you needed one for personal protection it was just a big no when you applied, you must be in the armed forces? *jealous*
Easy, you join a target shooting club. Unlike the rest of the UK, handguns are still available for target shooting. You apply just like you would for any "Section 1" firearm like a rifle.
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On December 29 2012 10:04 ahswtini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 08:16 Detri wrote:On December 29 2012 08:09 ahswtini wrote:
Got myself a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow, with tuned trigger and hammer. How the hell did you get the licence for a handgun in Northern Ireland?! Always wanted one, but I thought unless you needed one for personal protection it was just a big no when you applied, you must be in the armed forces? *jealous* Easy, you join a target shooting club. Unlike the rest of the UK, handguns are still available for target shooting. You apply just like you would for any "Section 1" firearm like a rifle.
Man, so much effort. I spent 10 minutes filling out paperwork, 20 waiting for the guy to do a quick background check over the phone, and 5 paying.
Now, granted, I think it might be just a little TOO easy here, but still. How's that thing shoot? Never shot one.
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On December 29 2012 09:52 jacosajh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 09:46 Arghmyliver wrote:On December 29 2012 09:37 jacosajh wrote:On December 29 2012 08:18 micronesia wrote:For those of you talking about a shotgun being problematic for home defense due to collateral damage, what about just loading it with bird shot? It will still have plenty of stopping power if you are forced to use it, but won't kill people two rooms over like say, a rifle bullet could. I like the idea of a short, bull-pup shotgun such as the kel-tec ksg: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pVaSD.jpg) which gives you maximum maneuverability. However, it might not be as intimidating (especially in the dark) as a more classic style (and sounding) pump action. Alternately, a double-barrel can probably petrify a charging elephant... staring down two horizontal barrels is pretty intimidating :p Interesting. I might get one of these to replace my Remington 870 Tactical for home defense. Personally, I prefer smaller rounds like 9s and 22LRs. Where do you live? I'm not sure what you mean by this? Country? State? Exact address? Are you going to rob me to test how my 870 does?
Not at all - I was just trying to figure out with what regularity your home is being invaded by small-medium sized task forces which necessitate the use of 12-14 shells fired in rapid succession to eliminate? Isn't the pump action shotgun just child's play at that point? What is the advantage of the KSG over say - 2 stun grenades and an FN P90?
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oh wow alot of people listed AK-47.Are these original pre-ban milled AK-47 or Type-56 ? or are these just the Romanian WASR-10? If it the original AK or Type-56 how much would one of these go for now?
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Northern Ireland22212 Posts
It's beautiful. It weighs a fair bit but it just keeps the recoil down. Points really well, is very accurate and incredibly reliable. Not had any malfunctions yet, but I've only put about 1000 rounds through it. Had the trigger tuned so it breaks very cleanly with no creep. Double action trigger is also very smooth.
Yeah for us there's a lot of paperwork, have to install a cabinet, a firearms licensing officer has to come to your house to interview you and check the cabinet. Then you wait anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months for that certificate to drop onto your doormat.
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On December 29 2012 10:13 Arghmyliver wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 09:52 jacosajh wrote:On December 29 2012 09:46 Arghmyliver wrote:On December 29 2012 09:37 jacosajh wrote:On December 29 2012 08:18 micronesia wrote:For those of you talking about a shotgun being problematic for home defense due to collateral damage, what about just loading it with bird shot? It will still have plenty of stopping power if you are forced to use it, but won't kill people two rooms over like say, a rifle bullet could. I like the idea of a short, bull-pup shotgun such as the kel-tec ksg: which gives you maximum maneuverability. However, it might not be as intimidating (especially in the dark) as a more classic style (and sounding) pump action. Alternately, a double-barrel can probably petrify a charging elephant... staring down two horizontal barrels is pretty intimidating :p Interesting. I might get one of these to replace my Remington 870 Tactical for home defense. Personally, I prefer smaller rounds like 9s and 22LRs. Where do you live? I'm not sure what you mean by this? Country? State? Exact address? Are you going to rob me to test how my 870 does? Not at all - I was just trying to figure out with what regularity your home is being invaded by small-medium sized task forces which necessitate the use of 12-14 shells fired in rapid succession to eliminate? Isn't the pump action shotgun just child's play at that point? What is the advantage of the KSG over say - 2 stun grenades and a FN P90?
Well, ignoring your absurdity, the sound and look of a shotgun are incredibly intimidating, and it's not exactly unheard of for people to flee on sight, which, actually saves lives.
Also, to answer your absurd question, "stun" grenades can kill, in particular small children, they're not good in self defense situations since you'd need even more time to put on hearing protection.
How often do you "need" to browse the internet looking for gun owners to provoke? Do you make money off of it? If not, why would you do it, let alone own a computer to do it when you could just browse the internet at your local library instead?
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On December 29 2012 10:13 ahswtini wrote:
It's beautiful. It weighs a fair bit but it just keeps the recoil down. Points really well, is very accurate and incredibly reliable. Not had any malfunctions yet, but I've only put about 1000 rounds through it. Had the trigger tuned so it breaks very cleanly with no creep. Double action trigger is also very smooth.
Yeah for us there's a lot of paperwork, have to install a cabinet, a firearms licensing officer has to come to your house to interview you and check the cabinet. Then you wait anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months for that certificate to drop onto your doormat.
That's cool - how does that compare to the US? Is there a cabinet inspection here as well?
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Well, the guns I would like to own would be those:
MG3 (Nato cal., 1200 rounds per min, THE light machine gun of all light machine guns, and that sound...so damn good)
HK G3A3 (nato cal., so much fun to shoot with and a sturdy beast)
HK MP7 (!!!!)
Unfortunately, I will never own any of em, so I have to remember my army time and smile...
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On December 29 2012 10:13 ahswtini wrote:
It's beautiful. It weighs a fair bit but it just keeps the recoil down. Points really well, is very accurate and incredibly reliable. Not had any malfunctions yet, but I've only put about 1000 rounds through it. Had the trigger tuned so it breaks very cleanly with no creep. Double action trigger is also very smooth.
Yeah for us there's a lot of paperwork, have to install a cabinet, a firearms licensing officer has to come to your house to interview you and check the cabinet. Then you wait anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months for that certificate to drop onto your doormat.
Nice. My best experience was my friend's XD .40. My dad's Taurus pisses me off because it's too small for my hand, and it's so light it feels like airsoft and the recoil is vile.
My Hi Point is decent, but the magazine needed an attitude adjustment. They're kind of the AK-47 of pistols. Ugly, mass produced, inexpensive. But they go bang. It cost $165, has a lifetime no BS transferrable warranty that can't be voided without power tools.
It's no match gun, although I did see a video of a guy shooting an IDPA match and doing pretty well with one, but that's more down to the shooter.
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On December 29 2012 10:18 Arghmyliver wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 10:13 ahswtini wrote:
It's beautiful. It weighs a fair bit but it just keeps the recoil down. Points really well, is very accurate and incredibly reliable. Not had any malfunctions yet, but I've only put about 1000 rounds through it. Had the trigger tuned so it breaks very cleanly with no creep. Double action trigger is also very smooth.
Yeah for us there's a lot of paperwork, have to install a cabinet, a firearms licensing officer has to come to your house to interview you and check the cabinet. Then you wait anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months for that certificate to drop onto your doormat. That's cool - how does that compare to the US? Is there a cabinet inspection here as well?
Dude, given that he literally put that as an ANSWER to me saying what I went through in Texas, can you please at least take your provocative and tired rhetoric and annoying agenda that you aren't managing to be as subtle as you think about over to the gun control thread?
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On December 29 2012 10:17 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 10:13 Arghmyliver wrote:On December 29 2012 09:52 jacosajh wrote:On December 29 2012 09:46 Arghmyliver wrote:On December 29 2012 09:37 jacosajh wrote:On December 29 2012 08:18 micronesia wrote:For those of you talking about a shotgun being problematic for home defense due to collateral damage, what about just loading it with bird shot? It will still have plenty of stopping power if you are forced to use it, but won't kill people two rooms over like say, a rifle bullet could. I like the idea of a short, bull-pup shotgun such as the kel-tec ksg: which gives you maximum maneuverability. However, it might not be as intimidating (especially in the dark) as a more classic style (and sounding) pump action. Alternately, a double-barrel can probably petrify a charging elephant... staring down two horizontal barrels is pretty intimidating :p Interesting. I might get one of these to replace my Remington 870 Tactical for home defense. Personally, I prefer smaller rounds like 9s and 22LRs. Where do you live? I'm not sure what you mean by this? Country? State? Exact address? Are you going to rob me to test how my 870 does? Not at all - I was just trying to figure out with what regularity your home is being invaded by small-medium sized task forces which necessitate the use of 12-14 shells fired in rapid succession to eliminate? Isn't the pump action shotgun just child's play at that point? What is the advantage of the KSG over say - 2 stun grenades and a FN P90? Well, ignoring your absurdity, the sound and look of a shotgun are incredibly intimidating, and it's not exactly unheard of for people to flee on sight, which, actually saves lives. Also, to answer your absurd question, "stun" grenades can kill, in particular small children, they're not good in self defense situations since you'd need even more time to put on hearing protection. How often do you "need" to browse the internet looking for gun owners to provoke? Do you make money off of it? If not, why would you do it, let alone own a computer to do it when you could just browse the internet at your local library instead?
Err - I'm really not trying to provoke you. I'm just asking why you own the guns you own. I am assuming you have decent aim and avoid using stun grenades on your children (in terms of collateral damage wouldn't the children still fare better against the stun grenade than the shotgun?). Also, if it's the intimidation factor of a shotgun - wouldn't a more economically responsible choice be like - a normal pump action shotgun?
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On December 29 2012 10:23 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 10:18 Arghmyliver wrote:On December 29 2012 10:13 ahswtini wrote:
It's beautiful. It weighs a fair bit but it just keeps the recoil down. Points really well, is very accurate and incredibly reliable. Not had any malfunctions yet, but I've only put about 1000 rounds through it. Had the trigger tuned so it breaks very cleanly with no creep. Double action trigger is also very smooth.
Yeah for us there's a lot of paperwork, have to install a cabinet, a firearms licensing officer has to come to your house to interview you and check the cabinet. Then you wait anywhere from 2 weeks to 6 months for that certificate to drop onto your doormat. That's cool - how does that compare to the US? Is there a cabinet inspection here as well? Dude, given that he literally put that as an ANSWER to me saying what I went through in Texas, can you please at least take your provocative and tired rhetoric and annoying agenda that you aren't managing to be as subtle as you think about over to the gun control thread?
I really thought it was cool - I have no agenda here. Sorry I didn't see that line. You're really provoking yourself - unless you find my rhetoric arousing - in which case I totally misjudged that statement.
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On December 29 2012 10:13 Arghmyliver wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 09:52 jacosajh wrote:On December 29 2012 09:46 Arghmyliver wrote:On December 29 2012 09:37 jacosajh wrote:On December 29 2012 08:18 micronesia wrote:For those of you talking about a shotgun being problematic for home defense due to collateral damage, what about just loading it with bird shot? It will still have plenty of stopping power if you are forced to use it, but won't kill people two rooms over like say, a rifle bullet could. I like the idea of a short, bull-pup shotgun such as the kel-tec ksg: which gives you maximum maneuverability. However, it might not be as intimidating (especially in the dark) as a more classic style (and sounding) pump action. Alternately, a double-barrel can probably petrify a charging elephant... staring down two horizontal barrels is pretty intimidating :p Interesting. I might get one of these to replace my Remington 870 Tactical for home defense. Personally, I prefer smaller rounds like 9s and 22LRs. Where do you live? I'm not sure what you mean by this? Country? State? Exact address? Are you going to rob me to test how my 870 does? Not at all - I was just trying to figure out with what regularity your home is being invaded by small-medium sized task forces which necessitate the use of 12-14 shells fired in rapid succession to eliminate? Isn't the pump action shotgun just child's play at that point? What is the advantage of the KSG over say - 2 stun grenades and an FN P90?
Does it happen regularly? No. Will it ever happen? Maybe not. But all it takes is one time. If you have a problem with me being prepared over something that may or may not ever happen, I don't really know what to tell you. I guess you also don't believe in condoms, life jackets, and seat belts. *Shrug*
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On December 29 2012 08:15 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 08:06 Nagano wrote:On December 29 2012 08:05 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I really want a beretta 92fs
I don't own a gun personally but my family owns a couple, but our family is more archery shooting. Beretta 92fs is the best looking handgun imo  Guns or archery shooting, why not both!? I'm not a fan of the Beretta, myself. I think it's overpriced for what it offers. $725 MSRP for a big, bulky handgun with no bells and whistles. Sure, it's reasonably reliable, and looks kind of pretty, but, it's kind of meh for the price.
for me it's just so sexy, It feels really good as well. After shooting bows for years I have been moving towards guns for target practice, The price in getting decent arrows has gone up quite a bit recently.
any recommendations for a first Rifle?
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On December 29 2012 10:49 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 08:15 JingleHell wrote:On December 29 2012 08:06 Nagano wrote:On December 29 2012 08:05 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I really want a beretta 92fs
I don't own a gun personally but my family owns a couple, but our family is more archery shooting. Beretta 92fs is the best looking handgun imo Guns or archery shooting, why not both!? I'm not a fan of the Beretta, myself. I think it's overpriced for what it offers. $725 MSRP for a big, bulky handgun with no bells and whistles. Sure, it's reasonably reliable, and looks kind of pretty, but, it's kind of meh for the price. for me it's just so sexy, It feels really good as well. After shooting bows for years I have been moving towards guns for target practice, The price in getting decent arrows has gone up quite a bit recently. any recommendations for a first Rifle?
Depends on if you have caliber preference. If you just want something for plinking, you can't beat a .22 LR, if you want something that actually packs some punch, you can generally get an SKS for a reasonable price.
I mean, there's SO much in the way of personal preference that it takes more information. Otherwise you'll just find out what everyone else likes.
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Thinking of updating my Remington 870 with a Blackhawk breachersgrip (supposed to limit painful recoil by 65% or so). Anyone have any experience with this grip? Seen youtube vids of people shooting 1 handed with this and claim to have no issues with wrist pain.
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On December 29 2012 10:52 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 10:49 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On December 29 2012 08:15 JingleHell wrote:On December 29 2012 08:06 Nagano wrote:On December 29 2012 08:05 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I really want a beretta 92fs
I don't own a gun personally but my family owns a couple, but our family is more archery shooting. Beretta 92fs is the best looking handgun imo Guns or archery shooting, why not both!? I'm not a fan of the Beretta, myself. I think it's overpriced for what it offers. $725 MSRP for a big, bulky handgun with no bells and whistles. Sure, it's reasonably reliable, and looks kind of pretty, but, it's kind of meh for the price. for me it's just so sexy, It feels really good as well. After shooting bows for years I have been moving towards guns for target practice, The price in getting decent arrows has gone up quite a bit recently. any recommendations for a first Rifle? Depends on if you have caliber preference. If you just want something for plinking, you can't beat a .22 LR, if you want something that actually packs some punch, you can generally get an SKS for a reasonable price. I mean, there's SO much in the way of personal preference that it takes more information. Otherwise you'll just find out what everyone else likes.
Yeah, I am looking for a rifle I can have that is cheaper and can take a good beating, My family owns guns but I never had my own, want to start my collection but start with something reliable. .22s are very nice and the ammo is decently priced.
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so... how does one get a nice pistol, with a silencer, pretty sure in America but still....... semi srs
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