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On December 29 2012 08:18 micronesia wrote:For those of you talking about a shotgun being problematic for home defense due to collateral damage, what about just loading it with bird shot? It will still have plenty of stopping power if you are forced to use it, but won't kill people two rooms over like say, a rifle bullet could. I like the idea of a short, bull-pup shotgun such as the kel-tec ksg: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/pVaSD.jpg) which gives you maximum maneuverability. However, it might not be as intimidating (especially in the dark) as a more classic style (and sounding) pump action. Alternately, a double-barrel can probably petrify a charging elephant... staring down two horizontal barrels is pretty intimidating :p
T,T ? Really? Some tribes of elephants have like officially declared war on humans. They just ransack African villages because their experiences with humans are A. Poachers and B. Tourists - neither group is well known for their environmental friendliness. I personally wouldn't want to face down an elephant with any weapon short of say - small cannon.
Why do people own guns?
The first answer on the thread is "shooting range is fun." I also hear that heroin is rather fun - I don't think that's a legitimate justification. I bet Saddam Hussein or Genghis Khan were having fun at the height of their regimes.
Hunting rifles you can justify no problem.
Handguns are pushing it.
Assault rifles why do you own them?
What is your justification for owning an AK-47 in the suburban US? Just curious.
I don't own guns because I have absolutely no reason to and also I am a pacifist (I understand that pacifists can own guns for target shooting). People flame me for being a "coward" (which is ironic - as I would consider flaming over the internet to be rather cowardly) but I simply don't think that there is any problem where the legitimate long-term solution is "more violence." I think the whole self-protection argument is just perpetuating a sort of personal arms race. I'm straying a bit off topic here SO back to my real question -
Why do you own AK-47s (assault rifles, combat shotguns, military-grade weaponry in general)?
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I am speechless at the fact that you can get a gun at the price of a good air gun in hong Kong.
And those good air gun are under strict modification restrictions because you can do considerably high damage
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On December 29 2012 08:30 Mczeppo wrote:
Brainstorming about a "home defense" weapon... You guys are funny ^^
i'm actually scared that these guys could be my neighbours,... anyway i had some bb gun when i was young that was fun a pistol kind of police replica and a rifle ...fun thing is i could shoot it in my backyard whitout having any problem and still pratice my aim 
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got a moist nugger a Vz 58 (ak variants are banned in canada but i like the vz 58 more so what ever) a SKS and a GLAWK.
looking to get a revolver (probably single action) but i have yet to do any serious looking yet.
guns are fun
(pow pow)
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Seriously, take your politics to some other thread. Heck create your own, but don't post here unless you are discussing guns you have/want.
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On December 29 2012 08:44 Beavo wrote:
I do not hunt so I see no reason to ever own a gun.
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On December 29 2012 08:50 SwallowTheSun wrote:
Seriously, take your politics to some other thread. Heck create your own, but don't post here unless you are discussing guns you have/want.
We are allowed to ask why you own the guns - it says so in the OP.
Feel free to ask about gun ownership, i.e. price, why we own guns, the process of getting them, etc.
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I really want to own an AK-47 after shooting one a few years ago(which was actually something i wanted to do before I died) i really just fell in love with it.
However getting one around here involves uhh, shady means :c
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Come at me bro.
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On December 29 2012 08:45 Arghmyliver wrote:
Assault rifles why do you own them?
What is your justification for owning an AK-47 in the suburban US? Just curious.
Why do you own AK-47s (assault rifles, combat shotguns, military-grade weaponry in general)?
why does anyone own anything hobby related? Each gun has a different feel and a different experience comes when you own and shoot that gun, some people want that experience.
This question is kinda like asking "well you have the 10 dollar bottle of bourbon, why would you ever buy a 40$ bottle?" or "you have CDs why would you have vinyl?"
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You NEVER shoot to disable. Ignoring the part where it's illegal some places (it implies the level of force wasn't needed), it's also fucking HARD to intentionally take a leg or arm shot on a moving target.
(...)
Actually this is what policemen are trained to do in Germany. As long as no one points a lethal weapon at you but you are still forced to stop s.o., you shoot at arms or legs. Always.
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On December 29 2012 08:59 GypsyBeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 08:45 Arghmyliver wrote:
Assault rifles why do you own them?
What is your justification for owning an AK-47 in the suburban US? Just curious.
Why do you own AK-47s (assault rifles, combat shotguns, military-grade weaponry in general)? why does anyone own anything hobby related? Each gun has a different feel and a different experience comes when you own and shoot that gun, some people want that experience. This question is kinda like asking "well you have the 10 dollar bottle of bourbon, why would you ever buy a 40$ bottle?" or "you have CDs why would you have vinyl?"
The bottle of bourbon : You can drink it
The vinyl : you can listen to it
The shotgun in suburban US : that's what he tried to figure out.
No offence but you didn't really answer to the question
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I have two .22s: a Ruger 10/22 with a telescopic sight and some sort of (Edit: don't know manufacturer as mine is not octagonal) pump action that ejects out the top and breaks down into two pieces...dunno what it is, my step-dad got it for me when I was like 10, but it's the strangest rifle I've ever seen. Have a few BB guns too.
![[image loading]](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/Sephiroth151/post-4317-0-50238600-1323318244.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/Sephiroth151/Ruger10-22Carbine234-871602.jpg)
sorta like this but without the missing light collector...
I also got a Beretta PX4 Storm in .45ACP just this summer. It's a damn sexy looking handgun and very comfortable to hold...I never liked the 1911 style or its grips. Compared to my cousin's USP it's fairly moderate in size and weight.
![[image loading]](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/Sephiroth151/42634.jpg)
My step-father and cousin have an assortment of arms each, some standouts are a Python in black with 6 inch barrel ( I love this thing) and a bolt 16 gauge, which I've never seen before.
I don't use any of mine for anything but plinking, though I got my PX4 in .45ACP and keep a box of hollow points in the gun bag for the thought of home defense. A shotgun would work much better in that capacity but I'm not looking to buy anything right now.
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On December 29 2012 08:59 GypsyBeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 08:45 Arghmyliver wrote:
Assault rifles why do you own them?
What is your justification for owning an AK-47 in the suburban US? Just curious.
Why do you own AK-47s (assault rifles, combat shotguns, military-grade weaponry in general)? why does anyone own anything hobby related? Each gun has a different feel and a different experience comes when you own and shoot that gun, some people want that experience. This question is kinda like asking "well you have the 10 dollar bottle of bourbon, why would you ever buy a 40$ bottle?" or "you have CDs why would you have vinyl?"
No I see it more like - you own an SUV, why would you want a tank? Yeah it looks cooler - but think of the impracticality of everyday use (not to mention the gas mileage). You will hopefully never use these firearms for their intended purpose (expedient killing). Is it incredibly gratifying to shoot more rounds per second into a paper target? It seems like I would have to be like - brought to intense orgasm by firing my weapons in order to justify the cost of purchasing and maintaining military-grade munitions.
Edit: Or maybe they have really good weed hook-ups? Buy you beers at the pub? Are great wingmen? (Rape joke unintentional)
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On December 29 2012 09:06 Grumpy wrote:Show nested quote +
You NEVER shoot to disable. Ignoring the part where it's illegal some places (it implies the level of force wasn't needed), it's also fucking HARD to intentionally take a leg or arm shot on a moving target.
(...)
Actually this is what policemen are trained to do in Germany. As long as no one points a lethal weapon at you but you are still forced to stop s.o., you shoot at arms or legs. Always.
I was speaking of Americans, and our cops carry batons, pepper spray, and tazers for people who aren't pointing weapons.
I'd generally consider that a better plan then training someone to hit a leg and praying they don't graze an artery. Or miss and ricochet off the pavement into a bystander, since it's a ridiculously hard target unless they're close enough to take the gun away.
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On December 29 2012 08:53 Arghmyliver wrote:
We are allowed to ask why you own the guns - it says so in the OP.
Sure, you're allowed to ask why people own guns, but do you really have to lace your post with stupid comparisons, i.e. grouping firearms with heroin and dictators? You don't get to sidestep the fact that someone took offense to your post just because you tried to mask a clever stupid little quip inside a question about gun ownership. It wasn't clever. It wasn't cute.
The answer to your question can be summed up with "Different strokes for different folks." Some people like taking pictures and videos of trains and airplanes for fun. Some like to shoot firearms. Others like playing video games.
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On December 29 2012 09:07 Diks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 08:59 GypsyBeast wrote:On December 29 2012 08:45 Arghmyliver wrote:
Assault rifles why do you own them?
What is your justification for owning an AK-47 in the suburban US? Just curious.
Why do you own AK-47s (assault rifles, combat shotguns, military-grade weaponry in general)? why does anyone own anything hobby related? Each gun has a different feel and a different experience comes when you own and shoot that gun, some people want that experience. This question is kinda like asking "well you have the 10 dollar bottle of bourbon, why would you ever buy a 40$ bottle?" or "you have CDs why would you have vinyl?" The bottle of bourbon : You can drink it The vinyl : you can listen to it The shotgun in suburban US : that's what he tried to figure out. No offence but you didn't really answer to the question
shotgun in the suburban us : you can go to a range or a farm and hunt or shoot with it. (some people also keep have them for home defense but w/e)
clear enough?
I'm not really sure what you dont understand, just because you keep it at home does not mean you are only allowed to use it there.
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On December 29 2012 09:13 wongfeihung wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 08:53 Arghmyliver wrote:
We are allowed to ask why you own the guns - it says so in the OP. Sure, you're allowed to ask why people own guns, but do you really have to lace your post with stupid comparisons, i.e. grouping firearms with heroin and dictators? You don't get to sidestep the fact that someone took offense to your post just because you tried to mask a clever stupid little quip inside a question about gun ownership. It wasn't clever. It wasn't cute. The answer to your question can be summed up with " Different strokes for different folks." Some people like taking pictures and videos of trains and airplanes for fun. Some like to shoot firearms. Others like playing video games.
Hey man - not my fault you are so defensive ^_^. I wasn't grouping firearms with heroin and dictators (I don't need to they do it themselves) - I was saying that the argument "it's super fun" is not an incredibly good one. It seems like there would have to be some other answer.
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On December 29 2012 09:13 Arghmyliver wrote:
No I see it more like - you own an SUV, why would you want a tank?
I would love to own a tank but im not British
On December 29 2012 09:13 Arghmyliver wrote:Yeah it looks cooler - but think of the impracticality of everyday use (not to mention the gas mileage).
I doubt anyone would argue they have military grade firearms for "practical reasons" again its just for the experience.
On December 29 2012 09:13 Arghmyliver wrote:You will hopefully never use these firearms for their intended purpose (expedient killing).
obviously
On December 29 2012 09:13 Arghmyliver wrote: Is it incredibly gratifying to shoot more rounds per second into a paper target? It seems like I would have to be like - brought to intense orgasm by firing my weapons in order to justify the cost of purchasing and maintaining military-grade munitions.
You cant see the appeal so there isn't any? ok.
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On December 29 2012 09:14 GypsyBeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 09:07 Diks wrote:On December 29 2012 08:59 GypsyBeast wrote:On December 29 2012 08:45 Arghmyliver wrote:
Assault rifles why do you own them?
What is your justification for owning an AK-47 in the suburban US? Just curious.
Why do you own AK-47s (assault rifles, combat shotguns, military-grade weaponry in general)? why does anyone own anything hobby related? Each gun has a different feel and a different experience comes when you own and shoot that gun, some people want that experience. This question is kinda like asking "well you have the 10 dollar bottle of bourbon, why would you ever buy a 40$ bottle?" or "you have CDs why would you have vinyl?" The bottle of bourbon : You can drink it The vinyl : you can listen to it The shotgun in suburban US : that's what he tried to figure out. No offence but you didn't really answer to the question shotgun in the suburban us : you can go to a range or a farm and hunt or shoot with it. (some people also keep have them for home defense but w/e) clear enough? I'm not really sure what you dont understand, just because you keep it at home does not mean you are only allowed to use it there.
Yeah so you go to the shooting range - fine - but what is the added recreational value of a combat shotgun or assault rifle compared to a model made for hunting?
Edit: Another question - do you tell your neighbors about your weapons cache? What is the general reaction? Like - Hey cool I've got a 9-pounder and some grape shot! or Uhhhh thats... nice (walks away slowly)?
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On December 29 2012 07:43 Ettick wrote:
I plan on buying a Mosin Nagant and maybe an SKS eventually...
Eventually...
Probably not going to happen until I get out of college though since my parents are very anti-gun
I inherented a mosin nagant from my uncle (who used it in the war) and its a hell of a gun for hunting. Accurate way beyond it should really be and it has the stooping to knock a deer off its feet and slow down how far it will run before dieing.
That being said be very very very careful when buying one. Ask to open it up and look though all the parts and even test fire it and the bolt action. they were not very well taken care of back in the day and you can just as easily find yourself a few hundred dollars into a into a rifle that you'll need to seriously restore anyway. All that being said a good wooden nagant with the peep sights is an amazing relic of a gun that still preforms well today you have a good eye.
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