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This thread is to discuss what guns you own, or plan to own (or would like to own). If you want to discuss other posters' answers, that's fine, but do NOT derail this thread by complaining about gun ownership or gun control laws, or anything like that. You can discuss this policy with mods or in website feedback, but violators in this thread will be warned or banned depending on the severity of the offence.
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
July 12 2011 14:50 GMT
#561
I own no guns as of now. I would like to own a Glock though just because where I live isnt the greatest part of Las Vegas. Just for safety issues. I have fired the Glock before and just think its a great gun. However I have fired a M4 also that would be a dream to own one also lol. :D
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 16:38:32
July 12 2011 16:37 GMT
#562
On July 12 2011 23:50 SeizeTheDay wrote:
I own no guns as of now. I would like to own a Glock though just because where I live isnt the greatest part of Las Vegas. Just for safety issues. I have fired the Glock before and just think its a great gun. However I have fired a M4 also that would be a dream to own one also lol. :D


Glocks suck, if you like the lack of an actual safety catch, an XD is much better. Higher quality pistol, very accurate. First time I shot my friend's .40 XD we were just plinking, I hit one of the large monster cans at ~25-30m second shot.
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 19:24:00
July 12 2011 18:47 GMT
#563
On July 12 2011 18:32 Ledo wrote:
But if you think about it, if guns are prohibited then you don't need a gun to protect your selves from another gun. It removes the whole Fight Fire With Fire situation.



Not really, that just means criminals have weapons and law abiding citizens wont.

I said I'd post a couple videos a few pages back so here they are

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Short vid of me shooting my friend's M2 Benelli (12 Gauge, semiautomatic shotgun) with 3 inch mag buckshot, with a stupid looking grin on my face afterwards ^_v. Had a pretty good kick to it.


My friend shooting clay's (and fumbling around lol) with the same gun, even though its not really designed for this we could still hit them. Sorry about the skinny ass video and the jerkyness, these were taken with my cellphone and I forgot to turn it sideways.

chestnutman
Profile Joined March 2011
176 Posts
July 12 2011 18:50 GMT
#564
On July 12 2011 19:09 fuzzy_panda wrote:
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On July 12 2011 18:32 Ledo wrote:
Owning guns for the use of personal defence as a civilian has always been a bizarre thing for me. It seems as if this mentality of "i must own a gun to protect my house from bad d00ds with guns" Is only a problem because guns are available to the general populace in the first place.

I have always felt that a large part of the human race are incredibly unreliable or morally broken and are fairly stupid, allowing the widespread sale of lethal weapons is the last thing i think of as being sensible it should only take one mentally unstable person to walk into a public area and gun down 50 people for it to dawn on people that guns are probably not the best thing to release into civilian every day life. And its not even a case of just saying "well you have to get a gun license and have a psych stability test to be able to get a gun" because all that spinning top has to do is go to daddies locker and pull out his revolver and go to town.

I fully understand its a law or a right (constitution or something?) in a lot of countries. I also really like guns and think they are pretty sweet. But if you think about it, if guns are prohibited then you don't need a gun to protect your selves from another gun. It removes the whole Fight Fire With Fire situation.

I mean in Australia guns are prohibited and no one fears someone mugging you at night with a gun or breaking into your house with a gun.

I mean its hard to look at it from both sides and i fully accept that your outlook is different but it just seems out of this world that you consider a shotgun necessary for HOME defence.

The one bright side to having guns is that if there is a zombie apocalypse you can kill alot of shit quick


Check this out then:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=1933

I quote:
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Since Australia's gun ban, armed robberies increase 45%
In the Australian state of Victoria, gun homicides have climbed 300 percent;


and also:
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Moreover, a black market allegedly has developed in the country. The report said about 1 million Chinese-made semi-automatics, "one type of gun specifically targeted by the new law," have been imported and sold throughout the country


another quote from that article, altho it's about guns in US:
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Lott's research indicates the criminal element has been successful in obtaining weapons despite widespread bans and gun control laws, while HCI continues to push for more laws that further restrict, license or eliminate handguns and long guns.




According to Australian ófficials the article you quote is based on NRA propaganda:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15322

To contribute to the topic, as a kid I owned one of these:

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It made a lot of noise
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
July 12 2011 23:35 GMT
#565
^ The article just says the government accuses the NRA of propaganda, not that this is true. Furthermore, while the article doesn't seem to really indicate who is right in the situation, just the argument, at the bottom half it seems quite pro-gun, giving a bunch of statistics from the FBI and US Crime Statistics to the same effect the NRA has to Australia - about how a bunch of restrictive gun laws caused increases in crime, how crime rose in gun-ban places in the US, the nature of gun users, etc.

Great article.

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Jcnorheim
Profile Joined June 2011
United States51 Posts
July 12 2011 23:48 GMT
#566
I don't know enough to criticize, but I have to ask: why is it acceptable to leave guns loaded when you're done shooting targets/deer, etc?

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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 00:11:28
July 13 2011 00:10 GMT
#567
On July 13 2011 08:48 Jcnorheim wrote:
I don't know enough to criticize, but I have to ask: why is it acceptable to leave guns loaded when you're done shooting targets/deer, etc?



it isn't. thats the first thing i learned. when done shooting, unload and lock the gun so the chamber is showing. maybe different for hunting? can't answer that one.

however a typical thug would disagree with that.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 13 2011 00:16 GMT
#568
On July 13 2011 09:10 jinorazi wrote:
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On July 13 2011 08:48 Jcnorheim wrote:
I don't know enough to criticize, but I have to ask: why is it acceptable to leave guns loaded when you're done shooting targets/deer, etc?



it isn't. thats the first thing i learned. when done shooting, unload and lock the gun so the chamber is showing. maybe different for hunting? can't answer that one.

however a typical thug would disagree with that.


It's reasonable to have a (single) firearm loaded, no round in the chamber, and not accessible to children, for home defense purposes.

That being said, you have to be SURE it's not accessible to children, and also not easily accessible to anyone else. If you're going to have a party, or a situation where controlling access is more difficult, it should be unloaded and locked up with any other firearms for the duration.
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
July 13 2011 00:53 GMT
#569
On July 13 2011 08:48 Jcnorheim wrote:
I don't know enough to criticize, but I have to ask: why is it acceptable to leave guns loaded when you're done shooting targets/deer, etc?



I have no idea where you heard that, but it's generally accepted that guns should be empty and chambers clearly open and cleared whenever you're not at the firing line at a range / ready to shoot.
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
July 13 2011 01:32 GMT
#570
On July 13 2011 08:48 Jcnorheim wrote:
I don't know enough to criticize, but I have to ask: why is it acceptable to leave guns loaded when you're done shooting targets/deer, etc?


People generally don't keep all their guns loaded when transporting and storing them but they may also keep a weapon or two on a certain level of loaded for self defense. If you don't keep a round in the chamber you can never accidentally pull the trigger and fire but that's also something you may forget to do or not have time to do when you have to. A safety is less of a hassle to work but if you mishandle your gun you may turn off the safety and pull the trigger accidentally. Still, people have been killed for forgetting to turn off their safety. It's simply a bad idea to store a double action revolver in single action mode.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 01:56:36
July 13 2011 01:49 GMT
#571
I don't get why people think others buy firearms lawfully to go all Wild West with them. Check this briefing for beginners:

Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
July 13 2011 02:00 GMT
#572
On July 13 2011 10:32 OsoVega wrote:
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On July 13 2011 08:48 Jcnorheim wrote:
I don't know enough to criticize, but I have to ask: why is it acceptable to leave guns loaded when you're done shooting targets/deer, etc?


People generally don't keep all their guns loaded when transporting and storing them but they may also keep a weapon or two on a certain level of loaded for self defense. If you don't keep a round in the chamber you can never accidentally pull the trigger and fire but that's also something you may forget to do or not have time to do when you have to. A safety is less of a hassle to work but if you mishandle your gun you may turn off the safety and pull the trigger accidentally. Still, people have been killed for forgetting to turn off their safety. It's simply a bad idea to store a double action revolver in single action mode.


I'd also go to say that in the state of California it's illegal to have a loaded firearm(even in the magazine) while you're driving or transporting, I've seen tons of people get fined for this and it's a pretty big safety issue...and I shouldn't have to explain why.

Apart from that, I recently got a Winchester model 70 featherweight rifle. It shoots really nice, and I've begun loading my own ammunition for it as well since it seems to like a particular load. I use it for hunting mostly as well as target shooting, it's a very nice gun. Does anyone know and good indicator of it being a pre-64 rifle? I haven't really found any good places of information to see if it is, the serial isn't even that much help. if it IS a pre-64, appearantly it's supposed to be worth quite a bit of money.
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
July 13 2011 02:22 GMT
#573
Do the saboted tungsten carbide rounds fire nicely?
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dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 10:07:32
July 13 2011 09:57 GMT
#574
On July 12 2011 07:45 FagelBagel wrote:
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I've used a Colt HBAR AR15 for 15 years, and have used the forward assist a total of zero times. It's there as a backup for when shit goes wrong, not for using every reload. I've put thousands of rounds through it, and jammed maybe twice, due to my own failure when reloading that ammunition. Most feed problems are actually due to magazines... which has nothing to do with the rifle's design.

They also make newer rifles based on the AR15 platform with a gas-piston operation if you're that picky about it. But honestly, if you keep your gun well maintained and lubed, it will keep shooting for many many years.


Most civilian model ARs are of higher quality then what the military uses. I have an M16A4 straight from the Marine Corps (Step father was in the marines) and it performs substantially worse then my Ruger SR556 (civilian AR). The M16 is as clean as it can get, marines are told to clean their rifles in downtime and there is a lot of downtime.

The forward assist is to help a round get chambered correctly, combination of sub-par ammo and inefficient design cause rounds to get improperly chambered a lot. It can get pretty dangerous sometimes. If you get a blown primer stuck in the chamber or in the barrel it can explode the gun.
This is why I always step back when someone at the range starts pulling the trigger and smacking the gun when its jammed.



This really. remember, when you work for the government your tools are made by the lowest bidder.
There are plenty of civilian guns who have better quality then the military ones (full automatic not withstanding) For example, BCM makes AR's for about 1k that is better then the TDP.


On July 12 2011 17:22 oogieogie wrote:
if i wanted to get a gun for something in case of a emergency like a burglary what would you suggest? I have like no knowledge of guns, but I figure a pistol of some kind.


I'd suggest going to the range and shooting a few different models to see what you like. I generally don't recommend revolvers over semi autos, but for my friends that look for nightstand guns ONLY, and don't expect to take them out for practice much......I make an exception. You don't have to remember if you have a round chambered or not, no safety controls to speak of etc.

There are quite a few good small revolvers out there now, notably the ruger LCR and the S&W bodyguard 38. I can recommend them because they are much more plug n play then semi autos. You can expect them to get off all 6 rounds, and if not a failure in one round isn't going to put your whole weapon out of commission. There are few if any controls to get the firearm working, pretty much just pick it up and pull the trigger.

So basically the most effect with the least amount of training would be some small (ish) revolver. The biggest downside to them (and the reason I don't have one) is because they are so good at being pocket guns or nightstand guns that they can't really do anything else very well at all.


On July 13 2011 01:37 JingleHell wrote:
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On July 12 2011 23:50 SeizeTheDay wrote:
I own no guns as of now. I would like to own a Glock though just because where I live isnt the greatest part of Las Vegas. Just for safety issues. I have fired the Glock before and just think its a great gun. However I have fired a M4 also that would be a dream to own one also lol. :D


Glocks suck, if you like the lack of an actual safety catch, an XD is much better. Higher quality pistol, very accurate. First time I shot my friend's .40 XD we were just plinking, I hit one of the large monster cans at ~25-30m second shot.


XD's feel terrible. They are pretty much just terrible imitations of a Glock.
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MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
July 13 2011 10:03 GMT
#575
I'd like a Walther PPK since it's the James Bond pistol :> Funnily enough a quick wikipedia says it originated in Nazi Germany... which I guess is appropriate with the Royal Family being German as well :p
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
July 13 2011 15:37 GMT
#576
On July 13 2011 19:03 MoonfireSpam wrote:
I'd like a Walther PPK since it's the James Bond pistol :> Funnily enough a quick wikipedia says it originated in Nazi Germany... which I guess is appropriate with the Royal Family being German as well :p

Don't get a PPK. They are uncomfortable to operate and the one I shot had numerous FTF and FTE. I've heard modern 380s are much better.
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brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 23:59:02
July 14 2011 23:41 GMT
#577
On July 10 2011 13:12 3clipse wrote:
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On July 10 2011 12:27 Brethern wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:12 brain_ wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:47 micronesia wrote:
Hey guys... gun question :3

If you wanted a gun for the sole purpose of striking a fairly small target (like .5 meter x .5 meter) at a huge distance... which guns would be ideal for that? I'm sure this is situational but... in general, is there a gun or type of gun that specializes in hitting very long distance targets accurately?

What properties of a bullet would you need in order to maximize your range? Resistance to the effects of wind is an obvious consideration also...


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Remington 700 is an iconic sniper rifle, and is used by both the Army and the Marines (the M24 and M40 are both R700s, with the latter being more modified). It fires a .308 round, which is about as big as rifles get except for .338 (rare magnum cartridge) and .50BMG (extremely loud and powerful, good for long range and anti-material/vehicle). With modification and a good shooter, they're capable of point of impact variations of only an inch or so per 100 yards you shoot (the longer the shot, however, the more gravity and wind have to be accounted for).

Best part is, they can be found for $500, though nicer/fancier variants will cost more. If you want to experience shooting a high-powered round for cheap, get a $100 Mosin and some cheap surplus ammo: it won't be nearly as accurate, and mounting a scope is not worth doing, but they're fun.

Ah the good old mosin. One of the few guns to have fought against itself and won.

Also just as a fyi the mosin is still one the most accurate rifles around. That is what was used in vietnam.


Uhhhh, I'm calling bullshit on that. Maybe it was accurate for it time and its cost,
but from what I've seen about them, most are quite inaccurate, getting 3 or 4 inch groups at 100 yards. The rifle I currently plan on buying, the rather inexpensive Savage Axis, gets 1 inch groups.



Yeah you're right. The high-quality Sniper models were accurate when they were made, but the general cranked-out-by-the-bushel Mosins aren't that accurate. 3-4" @ 100yards is still easily accurate enough to kill someone, but once you get out past 200-300 yards it doesn't cut it. Occasionally you get lucky and find an accurate one, especially among the pre-war rifles.
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
July 15 2011 11:37 GMT
#578
I posted earlier that I have a Taurus PT-92 9mm. I am heavily contemplating a .357 Mag too now, the Taurus 627 Tracker. I know they get some heat sometimes, but Taurus makes a good gun. You can't argue with a lifetime warranty either!
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
July 17 2011 10:17 GMT
#579
speaking of guns, i came across this tv show not long ago and its so freaking awesome.
its about a gun modding shop, similar style to occ. last episode they built a triple m16

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/sons-of-guns/

and also

http://www.hulu.com/top-shot
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Gospadin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
July 31 2011 08:53 GMT
#580
On July 10 2011 11:33 Wodus wrote:
I found that most in here dont own sniper rifles and i wondered why?
Is it price? availability? simply not interested?

Is there a chance to try those out in the US by chance on a shooting range for instance?


The rifles are extremely expensive and match grade ammunition even more so ( over $1/bullet for .308 and close to $5/bullet for .50 BMG)

There aren't many places to make use of a rifle with that much power and accuracy, since long distance rifle ranges (>200yds) aren't that common and most people don't have huge amounts of private land available for long range shooting. Shooting larger rounds at short ranges requires special target backstops to prevent ricochets, though those rounds will penetrate steel plates.

You could try to find a local shooting club and see if they do group shoots. Sometimes manufacturers reps will attend events like that and bring firearms to try out.

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