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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
February 07 2017 01:59 GMT
#11701
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 07 2017 04:26 GMT
#11702
On February 07 2017 06:44 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 04:59 opisska wrote:
On February 07 2017 04:53 Yurie wrote:
On February 07 2017 04:46 opisska wrote:
What are some good sites to browse for general amusement with very limited bandwitdth and cpu? I am bored have very bad net on a very old phone. TL is great from the technical pov, but I have read everything here, reddit is not so great as most links go to random websites and most websites are painfully large.

Before you get to clever, going outside or playing sc2 arent viable options with a hole (albeit tiny and healing) in my spine.


I would recommend reading free stories. Some good sites below.

http://topwebfiction.com/
http://www.novelupdates.com/
http://storiesonline.net/home.php


Thanks! i should have noted though that i have a large library of books in my phone, so fiction is rather covered - i was merely in the mood for something else.

While I hate it, the system seems ideal for your situation: anything that is hosted on Google amp.

Kotaku, the Guardian, NYT all send you to their amp page if you surf there from Google search. Just click any link that says "amp" next to it.


So I obviously googled about this amp thing and it is quite the irony how badly their own pages about it render on my phone
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
February 08 2017 18:38 GMT
#11703
epigenetics, depression, sperm, nature, microRNA, offsprings ... go!.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23957 Posts
February 09 2017 05:14 GMT
#11704
Not trying to make this a conversation, just wondering if someone could help me find Jeff Sessions explanation of why the allegations of his racism weren't applicable to him now?

Like did he say what he did wasn't racist, that he's changed, or something else/some combination?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
February 09 2017 05:56 GMT
#11705
Whats the stupidest question anyone has ever asked
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
February 09 2017 06:00 GMT
#11706
On February 09 2017 14:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
Not trying to make this a conversation, just wondering if someone could help me find Jeff Sessions explanation of why the allegations of his racism weren't applicable to him now?

Like did he say what he did wasn't racist, that he's changed, or something else/some combination?

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/jeff-sessions-confirmation-hearing-expectations/

Maybe that?
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
February 09 2017 06:07 GMT
#11707
On February 09 2017 03:38 xM(Z wrote:
epigenetics, depression, sperm, nature, microRNA, offsprings ... go!.

I'm pretty sure you tried that already, or something very similar. Or was that someone else? I think it was you...
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
February 09 2017 06:08 GMT
#11708
On February 09 2017 14:56 Zambrah wrote:
Whats the stupidest question anyone has ever asked

Now this is a fine question! We need a hall of fame or something.

The thing about moving all the water on earth to the moon is one of my favorites.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 09 2017 06:54 GMT
#11709
Every question that transforms this thread into the "Physicists and Mathematicians' Fight Club thread" are among the stupidest ever asked
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 09 2017 07:11 GMT
#11710
On February 09 2017 15:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Every question that transforms this thread into the "Physicists and Mathematicians' Fight Club thread" are among the stupidest ever asked


Imagine a plane is sitting on a conveyor belt, as wide and long as a runway. The conveyor belt is designed to exactly match the speed of the wheels, moving in the opposite direction. Can the plane take off?
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12088 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-09 07:16:25
February 09 2017 07:15 GMT
#11711
On February 09 2017 16:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 15:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Every question that transforms this thread into the "Physicists and Mathematicians' Fight Club thread" are among the stupidest ever asked


Imagine a plane is sitting on a conveyor belt, as wide and long as a runway. The conveyor belt is designed to exactly match the speed of the wheels, moving in the opposite direction. Can the plane take off?


Why would it be able to? You have the plane standing still with spinning wheels. Creating no lift due to standing still and not moving through the ground level air at speed.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-09 07:20:12
February 09 2017 07:18 GMT
#11712
On February 09 2017 16:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 15:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Every question that transforms this thread into the "Physicists and Mathematicians' Fight Club thread" are among the stupidest ever asked


Imagine a plane is sitting on a conveyor belt, as wide and long as a runway. The conveyor belt is designed to exactly match the speed of the wheels, moving in the opposite direction. Can the plane take off?



no. lift is based on speed compared the air right? so since the plane is moving nothing compared to the speed of the air around it it has no lift. I'm not an expert but that seems pretty obvious.


It's like saying. a guy is pushing a car that won't move, how much work is he doing?
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-09 07:30:58
February 09 2017 07:29 GMT
#11713
On February 09 2017 16:18 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 16:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On February 09 2017 15:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Every question that transforms this thread into the "Physicists and Mathematicians' Fight Club thread" are among the stupidest ever asked


Imagine a plane is sitting on a conveyor belt, as wide and long as a runway. The conveyor belt is designed to exactly match the speed of the wheels, moving in the opposite direction. Can the plane take off?



no. lift is based on speed compared the air right? so since the plane is moving nothing compared to the speed of the air around it it has no lift. I'm not an expert but that seems pretty obvious.


It's like saying. a guy is pushing a car that won't move, how much work is he doing?


The actual answer is that the question is fundamentally flawed and that I should feel bad for asking it. There's no way to "have the conveyor belt match the speed of the wheels". If you make the conveyor belt move faster, the wheels will just spin faster.

Generally this question is pretty good at getting increasingly hostile and condescending responses from both sides though.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
February 09 2017 07:51 GMT
#11714
On February 09 2017 15:07 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 03:38 xM(Z wrote:
epigenetics, depression, sperm, nature, microRNA, offsprings ... go!.

I'm pretty sure you tried that already, or something very similar. Or was that someone else? I think it was you...
wasn't me; what came out of it?.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 09 2017 08:01 GMT
#11715
On February 09 2017 16:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 16:18 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On February 09 2017 16:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On February 09 2017 15:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Every question that transforms this thread into the "Physicists and Mathematicians' Fight Club thread" are among the stupidest ever asked


Imagine a plane is sitting on a conveyor belt, as wide and long as a runway. The conveyor belt is designed to exactly match the speed of the wheels, moving in the opposite direction. Can the plane take off?



no. lift is based on speed compared the air right? so since the plane is moving nothing compared to the speed of the air around it it has no lift. I'm not an expert but that seems pretty obvious.


It's like saying. a guy is pushing a car that won't move, how much work is he doing?


The actual answer is that the question is fundamentally flawed and that I should feel bad for asking it. There's no way to "have the conveyor belt match the speed of the wheels". If you make the conveyor belt move faster, the wheels will just spin faster.

Generally this question is pretty good at getting increasingly hostile and condescending responses from both sides though.


Flawed questions are best in showing people's characters Nice to see this explanation this early after it has been mentioned!

the best show of human idiocy is when tricky questions are posed for a general audience and people keep coming in and stating their opinions as a solid fact, openly ignoring the other responses that already explained the trickiness.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
February 09 2017 08:09 GMT
#11716
On February 09 2017 16:51 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 15:07 Cascade wrote:
On February 09 2017 03:38 xM(Z wrote:
epigenetics, depression, sperm, nature, microRNA, offsprings ... go!.

I'm pretty sure you tried that already, or something very similar. Or was that someone else? I think it was you...
wasn't me; what came out of it?.

I was thinking of your GMO antics + Show Spoiler +
On January 12 2017 15:23 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 04:21 xM(Z wrote:
you mixed up my phrasing - protein signaling with protein digestion.
- protein signaling based on gene mutation(no one knows why it mutates but environmental as well as hereditary reasons are quoted) causes Parkinson;
- protein digestion - irritable bowel syndrome, autoimmune disorders and others

pepsin stops digesting nucleic acids(DNA) at ~8ph; with all them hipsters on pure alkaline diets, nothing is guaranteed.

I'm trying to understand here... Are you afraid that:

1) GMO plants will happen to have DNA that cause Parkinsons in humans, but the wild type plant doesn't.
2) We eat the GMOs, and the DNA somehow doesn't get digested, because hipsters don't digest DNA.
3) The GMO DNA makes it way up into the brain.
4) the GMO DNA somehow gets into all or most of the cells in the brain.
5) The GMO DNA somehow manages to slice its way into our genome in the nucleus.
6) In a way so that the GMO DNA is actually expressed into protein.
7) This extra copy of GMO DNA has a dominant effect over the naturally occurring gene.
8) But all this only happens only to that new piece of GMO DNA that codes for the Parkinson defect. The brain doesn't otherwise turn into a plant.

I guess not, but I'm struggling to get my head around what you mean.

That said, I really do wish biomedical science was much more open. Few things get me as riled up as IP shenanigans blocking sciencific progress. :/

. Not identical, and I'm not sure exactly what you are after with your list of buzzwords, but seems pretty related, no?
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
February 09 2017 08:14 GMT
#11717
why do so many scientists become supervillians in comics and cartoons and the like? wouldn't it make much more sense to just patent all their inventions and make ridiculous amounts of money instead of trying to take over the world/steal money?
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-09 08:38:23
February 09 2017 08:33 GMT
#11718
On February 09 2017 17:09 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 16:51 xM(Z wrote:
On February 09 2017 15:07 Cascade wrote:
On February 09 2017 03:38 xM(Z wrote:
epigenetics, depression, sperm, nature, microRNA, offsprings ... go!.

I'm pretty sure you tried that already, or something very similar. Or was that someone else? I think it was you...
wasn't me; what came out of it?.

I was thinking of your GMO antics + Show Spoiler +
On January 12 2017 15:23 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2017 04:21 xM(Z wrote:
you mixed up my phrasing - protein signaling with protein digestion.
- protein signaling based on gene mutation(no one knows why it mutates but environmental as well as hereditary reasons are quoted) causes Parkinson;
- protein digestion - irritable bowel syndrome, autoimmune disorders and others

pepsin stops digesting nucleic acids(DNA) at ~8ph; with all them hipsters on pure alkaline diets, nothing is guaranteed.

I'm trying to understand here... Are you afraid that:

1) GMO plants will happen to have DNA that cause Parkinsons in humans, but the wild type plant doesn't.
2) We eat the GMOs, and the DNA somehow doesn't get digested, because hipsters don't digest DNA.
3) The GMO DNA makes it way up into the brain.
4) the GMO DNA somehow gets into all or most of the cells in the brain.
5) The GMO DNA somehow manages to slice its way into our genome in the nucleus.
6) In a way so that the GMO DNA is actually expressed into protein.
7) This extra copy of GMO DNA has a dominant effect over the naturally occurring gene.
8) But all this only happens only to that new piece of GMO DNA that codes for the Parkinson defect. The brain doesn't otherwise turn into a plant.

I guess not, but I'm struggling to get my head around what you mean.

That said, I really do wish biomedical science was much more open. Few things get me as riled up as IP shenanigans blocking sciencific progress. :/

. Not identical, and I'm not sure exactly what you are after with your list of buzzwords, but seems pretty related, no?
lol, nope but the words would fit in a way.
i've been reading about some depressed dudes in here and found http://www.nature.com/news/sperm-rna-carries-marks-of-trauma-1.15049
Trauma’s impact comes partly from social factors, such as its influence on how parents interact with their children. But stress also leaves ‘epigenetic marks’ — chemical changes that affect how DNA is expressed without altering its sequence. A study published this week in Nature Neuroscience finds that stress in early life alters the production of small RNAs, called microRNAs, in the sperm of mice. The mice show depressive behaviours that persist in their progeny, which also show glitches in metabolism.
...
In the new study, Isabelle Mansuy, a neuroscientist at the University of Zurich, Switzerland, and her colleagues periodically separated mother mice from their young pups and exposed the mothers to stressful situations — either by placing them in cold water or physically restraining them. These separations occurred every day but at erratic times, so that the mothers could not comfort their pups (termed the F1 generation) with extra cuddling before separation.

When raised this way, male offspring showed depressive behaviours and tended to underestimate risk, the study found. Their sperm also showed abnormally high expression of five microRNAs. One of these, miR-375, has been linked to stress and regulation of metabolism.

The F1 males’ offspring, the F2 generation, showed similar depressive behaviours, as well as abnormal sugar metabolism. The F1 and F2 generations also had abnormal levels of the five microRNAs in their blood and in the hippocampus, a brain region involved in stress responses. Behavioural effects persisted in the F3 generation as well.
so if they can't/won't get cured, at least they should not breed.

or, i can even pin "a fetus is a human being" on this and be right; it understands/shares my pain!.

Edit: or refugees, war refugees. they would have depressed/stressed, fearless children prone to act up.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
February 09 2017 09:20 GMT
#11719
Woah there, Mr Eugenics. Next thing celiacs, asthma patients, Alzheimer's, cancer, high blood pressure and pretty much everybody else should not have children, because there is a genetic component to almost every disease/disorder we know of (infectious diseases are an exception, but there's plenty of genes that could give us a more or less effective immune system, so you can't even exclude these!)
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11839 Posts
February 09 2017 09:27 GMT
#11720
On February 09 2017 15:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Every question that transforms this thread into the "Physicists and Mathematicians' Fight Club thread" are among the stupidest ever asked

I think you mean "best"

On February 09 2017 16:29 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 16:18 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On February 09 2017 16:11 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On February 09 2017 15:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Every question that transforms this thread into the "Physicists and Mathematicians' Fight Club thread" are among the stupidest ever asked


Imagine a plane is sitting on a conveyor belt, as wide and long as a runway. The conveyor belt is designed to exactly match the speed of the wheels, moving in the opposite direction. Can the plane take off?



no. lift is based on speed compared the air right? so since the plane is moving nothing compared to the speed of the air around it it has no lift. I'm not an expert but that seems pretty obvious.


It's like saying. a guy is pushing a car that won't move, how much work is he doing?


The actual answer is that the question is fundamentally flawed and that I should feel bad for asking it. There's no way to "have the conveyor belt match the speed of the wheels". If you make the conveyor belt move faster, the wheels will just spin faster.

Generally this question is pretty good at getting increasingly hostile and condescending responses from both sides though.


I disagree. While the conveyor belt is moving, it will also accelerate the air above it in the same direction due to friction. When the plane stays stationary, this means that there is airflow around the wings. The plane can lift off if the conveyor is running fast enough, while staying stationary above the turboconveyor. Basically, you have created a wind channel.
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