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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 12 2016 20:30 GMT
#9381
On July 13 2016 05:17 Simberto wrote:
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On July 13 2016 04:29 oGoZenob wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:40 Epishade wrote:
Do gay fat people exist? How come I've only ever seen skinny gay people?

try google search "bears", and filter out animal content. A whole new world will open for you =)


How do you know that you have only ever seen skinny gay people?

Also, why wouldn't they?

Unless you have a good reason to believe that either

-gay people are less likely to be fat
-or fat people are less likely to be gay

I'd default to the average gay person being about as fat as the average person in general.

Tbh I've always wondered if people belonging to an "uncomfortable minority" (as in, a small minority not well perceived by the general public) were less fat on average because of more or less conscious stress of belonging to said "uncomfortable minority" and worry of non-acceptation by society.
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Naracs_Duc
Profile Joined August 2015
746 Posts
July 12 2016 21:48 GMT
#9382
On July 13 2016 05:30 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 05:17 Simberto wrote:
On July 13 2016 04:29 oGoZenob wrote:
On July 13 2016 02:40 Epishade wrote:
Do gay fat people exist? How come I've only ever seen skinny gay people?

try google search "bears", and filter out animal content. A whole new world will open for you =)


How do you know that you have only ever seen skinny gay people?

Also, why wouldn't they?

Unless you have a good reason to believe that either

-gay people are less likely to be fat
-or fat people are less likely to be gay

I'd default to the average gay person being about as fat as the average person in general.

Tbh I've always wondered if people belonging to an "uncomfortable minority" (as in, a small minority not well perceived by the general public) were less fat on average because of more or less conscious stress of belonging to said "uncomfortable minority" and worry of non-acceptation by society.


Also, the people who are more confident (and good looking people are often more confident than ugly ones) are more likely to make themselves known. Especially with a signifier that one can never tell unless the observed person is being obvious about it/tells you directly.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 12 2016 22:40 GMT
#9383
A deep fryer accident happened, luckily no one was hurt, but there's a sticky grease mess all over the concrete patio. What products should a man use on greasy spot?
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
July 13 2016 02:11 GMT
#9384
On July 13 2016 07:40 Djzapz wrote:
A deep fryer accident happened, luckily no one was hurt, but there's a sticky grease mess all over the concrete patio. What products should a man use on greasy spot?


Vinegar
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 13 2016 02:27 GMT
#9385
On July 13 2016 11:11 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2016 07:40 Djzapz wrote:
A deep fryer accident happened, luckily no one was hurt, but there's a sticky grease mess all over the concrete patio. What products should a man use on greasy spot?


Vinegar

Will try. Danke.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 13 2016 15:15 GMT
#9386
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 13 2016 15:38 GMT
#9387
On July 14 2016 00:15 JimmiC wrote:
How come every time I see a article about plus sized models it talks about "healthy body image" but almost all of these models are way over a healthy BMI. I understand waif thin is unhealthy but can't we have normal models?

Second question is plus sized model the easiest career in the world? Lets be frank being a regular model was not exactly hard but at least you hard the strict diet and hard workout routine. Plus sized model is like eat what ever you want, don't do much and we will take your picture and pay you!

Isn't BMI regarded as a skewed indicator for health though? Found this while googling about it.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439

Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11839 Posts
July 13 2016 15:48 GMT
#9388
Well, you need to still look good on pictures. I assume that takes some prerequisites like a pretty face, and some of it probably also involves some training (having the right facial expressions, moving the right way)

I am talking totally out of my arse here. I don't have any experience whatsoever with that stuff.

However, the main goal of a model will always be selling stuff. Which means that it needs to look similar enough to you that you can project yourself onto them, and look better than you in such a way that makes you believe that if you buy the stuff they offer you will also look better yourself.

Now, i will make some wide assumptions. Someone with an average sized body will often feel like they could technically be as thin as a skeleton model, they don't think of themselves as "fat". So they will be able to project onto her, and thus think if they only buy the stuff she is modelling, they will look like her.

"Plus-sized" models are designed to speak to more massive women. These women already know that they have quite the bit of body weight onto themselves, and thus they simply cannot project themselves onto a skeleton model. You want someone who feels like "me, but prettier" to sell stuff to them. Thus, you need a bit over the healthy BMI for this.

Note that none of modelling is ever about health. It is about selling stuff to people. You might tell people that you want a more healthy view on body weight, but that is once again only marketing talk for "You are fine, just buy our stuff and you will be beautiful".
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11839 Posts
July 13 2016 15:51 GMT
#9389
On July 14 2016 00:38 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 00:15 JimmiC wrote:
How come every time I see a article about plus sized models it talks about "healthy body image" but almost all of these models are way over a healthy BMI. I understand waif thin is unhealthy but can't we have normal models?

Second question is plus sized model the easiest career in the world? Lets be frank being a regular model was not exactly hard but at least you hard the strict diet and hard workout routine. Plus sized model is like eat what ever you want, don't do much and we will take your picture and pay you!

Isn't BMI regarded as a skewed indicator for health though? Found this while googling about it.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439



I think in this case, "BMI" is used as a polite way of saying "way too fat"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 13 2016 15:55 GMT
#9390
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 13 2016 16:08 GMT
#9391
On July 14 2016 00:51 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 00:38 ThomasjServo wrote:
On July 14 2016 00:15 JimmiC wrote:
How come every time I see a article about plus sized models it talks about "healthy body image" but almost all of these models are way over a healthy BMI. I understand waif thin is unhealthy but can't we have normal models?

Second question is plus sized model the easiest career in the world? Lets be frank being a regular model was not exactly hard but at least you hard the strict diet and hard workout routine. Plus sized model is like eat what ever you want, don't do much and we will take your picture and pay you!

Isn't BMI regarded as a skewed indicator for health though? Found this while googling about it.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106268439



I think in this case, "BMI" is used as a polite way of saying "way too fat"

Ahhh not the kind of curvy ones, I take your meaning.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 13 2016 16:47 GMT
#9392
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TMagpie
Profile Joined June 2015
265 Posts
July 13 2016 17:14 GMT
#9393
On July 14 2016 00:55 JimmiC wrote:
Fair enough, perhaps BMI is not the best indicator of health but I still have a hard time believing that many of these plus sized models would not be healthier if they lost some weight, that being said I am not their doctor and do not know their exact composition. It just seams to me that as a society (north america) we have given up on not being fat and our now trying to make fat cool. Maybe that's ok because it would be certainly easier, but I do personally feel a lot better when I exercise and eat healthy.

http://greatist.com/live/plus-size-male-model-dexter-mayfield-is-sexy-af

This is what got me thinking about this.


This is fairly skewed.

Normal models are usually in the size zero category while "plus size" models are just a little bit over, with some reaching what most people would call "normal size"

The marketing is different, which is the big issue.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5160 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 17:35:29
July 13 2016 17:34 GMT
#9394
On July 14 2016 01:47 JimmiC wrote:
For sometime I have been weighing myself before I go to bed and then after I get up. I tend to pee 2-3 times per night. Not because I wake up having to pee but because I'm a light sleeper I wake up and am like well I better pee now or I won't fall back asleep thinking about it. Between that sweat and what ever tiny amount of calories you burn as you sleep I lose from 3-5 pounds a night. Is this a "normal" amount?


Yes. It's very normal. Probably depends on how high your basal metabolism is.
The biggest portion of your energy usage actually goes to trying to maintain your body temperature, biochemistry (breaking macronutrients, and building molecules back up), and other jazz related to that stuff.

If you think about it, you eat ~3 times a day, just to maintain yourself, to stay in homeostasis. That's around 16-18 hours/day you need to stay awake and do stuff, right? Obviously your basal metabolism becomes lower while you sleep, but that doesn't mean your body stops working. That's why, with all the fluid losses and your basal metabolism accounted for (depening on your genetic/physiological makeup), your 3-5 loss is normal.

Also a related question I've been asking myself lately: how efficient is your digestive system in taking up all the bio-available content you ingest?

Edit: I'm no expert on biochemistry (yet), neither am I an MD or anything, my answer is purely based on my understanding of certain concepts of biochemistry and the like.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
July 13 2016 17:43 GMT
#9395
On July 14 2016 00:38 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 00:15 JimmiC wrote:
How come every time I see a article about plus sized models it talks about "healthy body image" but almost all of these models are way over a healthy BMI. I understand waif thin is unhealthy but can't we have normal models?

Second question is plus sized model the easiest career in the world? Lets be frank being a regular model was not exactly hard but at least you hard the strict diet and hard workout routine. Plus sized model is like eat what ever you want, don't do much and we will take your picture and pay you!

Isn't BMI regarded as a skewed indicator for health though? Found this while googling about it.

You should think of BMI not as an indicator of health, but an indicator of un-health - at the extreme margins. A human can be in the normal range yet still be in a very unhealthy state ("skinny fat"), or be at the margins, and be perfectly healthy (athletes).
Only at the extreme margins could you make a case that that is an unhealthy weight no matter what.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 13 2016 18:54 GMT
#9396
On July 14 2016 02:43 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2016 00:38 ThomasjServo wrote:
On July 14 2016 00:15 JimmiC wrote:
How come every time I see a article about plus sized models it talks about "healthy body image" but almost all of these models are way over a healthy BMI. I understand waif thin is unhealthy but can't we have normal models?

Second question is plus sized model the easiest career in the world? Lets be frank being a regular model was not exactly hard but at least you hard the strict diet and hard workout routine. Plus sized model is like eat what ever you want, don't do much and we will take your picture and pay you!

Isn't BMI regarded as a skewed indicator for health though? Found this while googling about it.

You should think of BMI not as an indicator of health, but an indicator of un-health - at the extreme margins. A human can be in the normal range yet still be in a very unhealthy state ("skinny fat"), or be at the margins, and be perfectly healthy (athletes).
Only at the extreme margins could you make a case that that is an unhealthy weight no matter what.

Yeah, I had a gym teacher who was way into Olympic lifting who talked to us about it in high school. I just remember the dude was ripped for all intents and purposes but was technically obese by BMI indicators. Only reason it stood out in my mind.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
July 13 2016 20:45 GMT
#9397
BMI is useful for normal people (non-athletes), as being in the extreme of either side tends to put you at risk.
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
July 14 2016 04:39 GMT
#9398
Can we farm electric eels and power generators with their electricity?
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 14 2016 05:00 GMT
#9399
On July 14 2016 13:39 Epishade wrote:
Can we farm electric eels and power generators with their electricity?

Maybe, but it would be extremely inefficient. While each electric eel can generate a reasonable amount of power, it is only for a very short jolt (~2ms). The quantities you would need to do so would be vast. In addition, eels would be rather inefficient, because they use a significant amount of energy up just being alive. You would still need to feed them, but the potential energy of the food would not have a very good conversion rate to eel-power plant output.
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
July 14 2016 05:16 GMT
#9400
What if I just wanted to charge my phone then instead?
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