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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On August 17 2015 13:33 whatisthisasheep wrote: We're The Beatles just the Backstreet Boys of the 60's? i know youre joking but nah they wrote their own music in groundbreaking styles and played instruments and weren't just all puppets for swedish music producers and writers | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On August 17 2015 16:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: i know youre joking but nah they wrote their own music in groundbreaking styles and played instruments and weren't just all puppets for swedish music producers and writers Wait, are you talking about Beatles or BSB? | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18475 Posts
On August 17 2015 21:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Didn't take much to be groundbreaking in the 60s when everyone used to same goddamn chord progression in the 50s. Easy to say with 20/20 hindsight. At the time there were probably lots of little garage bands that were doing other stuff than using "the same goddamn chord progression", but it took The Beatles' genius to make it bigtime. It's like writing Mozart off because it was easy to compose new orchestral styles when everybody was just copying Bach's church music. If with hindsight the status quo was stale, that really doesn't mean that it was obvious at the time, nor that you don't have to be innovative to create something new that in turn becomes popular. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On August 17 2015 23:57 Acrofales wrote: Easy to say with 20/20 hindsight. At the time there were probably lots of little garage bands that were doing other stuff than using "the same goddamn chord progression", but it took The Beatles' genius to make it bigtime. It's like writing Mozart off because it was easy to compose new orchestral styles when everybody was just copying Bach's church music. If with hindsight the status quo was stale, that really doesn't mean that it was obvious at the time, nor that you don't have to be innovative to create something new that in turn becomes popular. The way the record industry worked then factored in as well. Wasn't like you could sell your 45s in every record shop and make them yourself and expect to make any money. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On August 18 2015 00:25 ThomasjServo wrote: The way the record industry worked then factored in as well. Wasn't like you could sell your 45s in every record shop and make them yourself and expect to make any money. But a record company would eventually take a risk and try and find a market for a type of song that wasn't saturated, as they eventually did. Even the "swedish music producers and writers", most visibly Max Martin, finds ways to introduce some new elements within a still-popular formula for their "puppets". I'd argue that Mozart made the status quo more stale - sure in his time it was new, but the shift in music from the Baroque to the Classical eras went from grandiose and ornamented to mathematical and formulaic. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
I have a 2.2L 4 cylinders 1993 Toyota Camry with 4 new winter tires, only 127000km, looks decently clean inside and outside BUT it has mechanical problems: the exhaust system needs to be changed (it's cracked and extremely loud) which the mechanic estimated at $700, and the brakes have issues and it seems like the left caliper doesn't seize (or something) despite the brakes having been repaired relatively recently. I put it up for $800 on an auction site this morning and got 1 answer already. Is $800 too low? I felt like $800 was a fair price, considering that it needs to be fixed mechanically but everything else is in working order, AND it comes with two sets of tires, one of which is brand spanking new. That said I am really looking to get rid of it... | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
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ThomasjServo
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Thanks guys! Oh also, if I want to sell the car as-is and I really don't want to get shit afterward, is it overkill to write up a little contract that says the car is sold AS IS and make him sign it? Or is that just silly? | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On August 18 2015 11:14 Djzapz wrote: Having trouble finding anything "equivalent". I'm not a car guy at all. Looks like the same car in fair to excellent condition goes from $1100 to $1500. So in damaged condition, it seems to me like $700-800 would be reasonable. Especially since I want to expedite the process. Thanks guys! Oh also, if I want to sell the car as-is and I really don't want to get shit afterward, is it overkill to write up a little contract that says the car is sold AS IS and make him sign it? Or is that just silly? Might discourage him from signing it but it'll cover your ass for sure. You could confidently bump up the price to 1k. If you live close to somewhere like Vancouver or Toronto based on the cost of living graphs I looked at you could go to 1.2k and still be able to quickly get rid of it. Oh and found the Canadian equivalent here: http://www.canadianblackbook.com/black-book-values So you can input your details and see for yourself what it'll give you. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46569 Posts
On August 17 2015 16:35 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: nsync tbh BSB >>>>> NSYNC. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On August 18 2015 11:14 Djzapz wrote: Having trouble finding anything "equivalent". I'm not a car guy at all. Looks like the same car in fair to excellent condition goes from $1100 to $1500. So in damaged condition, it seems to me like $700-800 would be reasonable. Especially since I want to expedite the process. Thanks guys! Oh also, if I want to sell the car as-is and I really don't want to get shit afterward, is it overkill to write up a little contract that says the car is sold AS IS and make him sign it? Or is that just silly? 1500 minus over 700 in repairs that the buyer has to do? You should be happy for 800. As long as you are honest to the buyer about the needed repair, no problem. At least in Australia, second hand car sales are always as is, there is no way you can go back and complain. Even if it explodes 2 metres after you signed the deal, tough luck, as is. Which is why it is important to get the car checked by an independent mechanic as buyer. I should add that I'm not an expert, but just recently bought a second hand car private, and I'm taking the information from the research I did for that. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 18 2015 11:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Might discourage him from signing it but it'll cover your ass for sure. You could confidently bump up the price to 1k. If you live close to somewhere like Vancouver or Toronto based on the cost of living graphs I looked at you could go to 1.2k and still be able to quickly get rid of it. Oh and found the Canadian equivalent here: http://www.canadianblackbook.com/black-book-values So you can input your details and see for yourself what it'll give you. I live in the suburbs of Montreal so it's not the richest place in the world. Also that site doesn't seem to acknowledge that cars were being made before 2003. Maybe $800 is on the lower end then but considering the problems I think I'll stick with it and not go too much below it. On August 18 2015 11:32 Cascade wrote: 1500 minus over 700 in repairs that the buyer has to do? You should be happy for 800. As long as you are honest to the buyer about the needed repair, no problem. At least in Australia, second hand car sales are always as is, there is no way you can go back and complain. Even if it explodes 2 metres after you signed the deal, tough luck, as is. Which is why it is important to get the car checked by an independent mechanic as buyer. Hobbyists might be able to fix the exhaust for like $300 or less, since they often just remove the broken catalyst to save money which mechanics can't legally do. Also the brakes might be a simple fix Unfortunately for me though cars are not sold as is and if I don't protect my ass he might come back to get me. The car hasn't been driven over long distances in months too so there may be other problems. I've been very forward about those in my ad, describing the entire situation. | ||
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whatisthisasheep
624 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
nsync had more of a spine in getting away from their shitty record deal they were stronger all-around in terms of vocal ability; bsb could never make an acapella track like this + Show Spoiler + they employed autotune before it was a thing on a song about cybersex + Show Spoiler + and justin timberlake like i really liked bsb but im pretty sure nsync has more merit overall | ||
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whatisthisasheep
624 Posts
On August 18 2015 13:37 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: nsync had more of a spine in getting away from their shitty record deal they were stronger all-around in terms of vocal ability; bsb could never make an acapella track like this + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1bje73I4so they employed autotune before it was a thing on a song about cybersex + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he_7Ou9xq7A and justin timberlake like i really liked bsb but im pretty sure nsync has more merit overall Nsync would never been created if it wasent for BsB's early success. Nsync arrived 2 years after and tried to steal BsB's market share. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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