EPTBanning halal/kosher butchering - Page 15
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On June 29 2011 05:54 MilesTeg wrote: Another populist law to get the islamophobic voter. You guys seriously don't have anything better to do? It's the same in France, they're legislating on everything to please the intolerant majority, and I find the whole debate disgusting. Besides is the poll is ridiculously biased, and should be removed from the OP. (this coming from an atheist who doesn't even want to kill a bug...) The French are so blatantly racist towards the Islamic Religion. In Quebec there was a vote against the hijab, even though maybe 60? people total wear religious garb over their head in Quebec. Its like, really? you're going to cost the governemnt thousands of dollars because you're so racist you cannot allow 60 people to practice their religion?? | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On June 29 2011 05:58 Holcan wrote: The French are so blatantly racist towards the Islamic Religion. In Quebec there was a vote against the hijab, even though maybe 60? people total wear religious garb over their head in Quebec. Its like, really? you're going to cost the governemnt thousands of dollars because you're so racist you cannot allow 60 people to practice their religion?? You can't be racist against a religion... -_- | ||
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d[s]c
United States79 Posts
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d[s]c
United States79 Posts
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Dizmaul
United States831 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On June 29 2011 05:32 Destro wrote: sorry, cutting the throat of an animal doesnt disturb me. people's ignorance to how the world works does however. Go to africa, tell a village that has 3 goats to survive off of for 2 months that they are disturbing for cutting the throat of a goat for food. Until we stop treating other humans worse than we treat our food, i will never believe that this kind of arrogant 1st world issue is worth the discussion. I wouldn't be surprised that people would rather end animal suffering before we end human suffering. If thats what is "humane" i want nothing to do with the word. Nice strawman. Nobody would argue that a starving African killing an animal in order to feed himself would classify as "animal cruelty." | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On June 29 2011 06:02 LegendaryZ wrote: You can't be racist against a religion... -_- so blatantly prejudice* whatever, its an internet forum, I care about as much for using correct words, as I do about actually changing peoples opinions about religion. (i dont) | ||
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IMLyte
Canada714 Posts
Edit: Nice informational article I just found to help clarify "Halal" http://muslimvillage.com/2011/05/31/is-halal-slaughter-cruel-to-animals/ | ||
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Zihua
Netherlands177 Posts
so blatantly prejudice* whatever, its an internet forum, I care about as much for using correct words, as I do about actually changing peoples opinions about religion. (i dont) You do care about using the term that demonizes your opponent most effectively. I guess that makes you a slightly dishonest person, but I'll just call you a liar. | ||
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Avi-
Germany58 Posts
On June 29 2011 06:02 d[s]c wrote: The kind of meat I eat is fish, other than that, plants and grains. You eat fish? You monster, poor fish is suffering. You eat plants and grains? You monster, poor animals will starve because of you. On June 29 2011 06:05 Dizmaul wrote: I never understood why people would assume they can move to a new culture and practice there old one without anyone getting upset hah. you do understand that Jews practised kosher slaughtering in that area for 1000 years? | ||
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FaZe
Canada472 Posts
On June 29 2011 06:05 BlackJack wrote: Nice strawman. Nobody would argue that a starving African killing an animal in order to feed himself would classify as "animal cruelty." I think what he's trying to say is that the whole debate is misappropriated energy that would be better spent trying to reduce human suffering. | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
On June 29 2011 06:05 BlackJack wrote: Nice strawman. Nobody would argue that a starving African killing an animal in order to feed himself would classify as "animal cruelty." its humans eating food. Its not like they are torturing the animal... last time i checked slicing a throat is a pretty quick way to kill something... Also in the same vein, we should abolish hunting altogether, fishing, horse racing, or anything where animals are used to fulfill a human's entertainment/eating. I fully agree with the above poster that this is a huge islamaphobic undertone and if you removed the religious aspect to it and called it a cultural tradition... this wouldnt get a tenth of the attention its gaining. I am going to the local safeway tonight as an atheist and buying halal meat out of spite. I dislike religion but i rather promote freedom. | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
On June 29 2011 05:19 Holcan wrote: Everything that you have posted has been in your own perspective, and by the sounds of it, you are a vegan atheist, if not, you're a hypocrite. Nope i eat meat. I never said I'm against us eating animals. I do however think that animals know pain aswell as we do and that we should avoid inflicting unnecessary pain on them. No point making them suffer more. | ||
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FarmI3oy
United States255 Posts
 I wish people would understand what happens in a slaughterhouse is totally different then a ritual animal slaughtering I mean come on. Obvious is Obvious. | ||
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adrenaLinG
Canada676 Posts
On June 29 2011 04:07 ScrubS wrote: Religion and animal welfare are both stupid. So far it hasn't been scientifically proven that animals suffer more when they are butchered halal/kosher. Therefore, it is just way easier and better to allow it (eventho its bs, as i agree with u) What about human welfare? Both Jews and Muslims are upset and suing in San Francisco where there is a voters initiative trying to get forced circumcision on males under 18 years of age (the legal age limit) banned. On June 29 2011 05:58 Holcan wrote: The French are so blatantly racist towards the Islamic Religion. In Quebec there was a vote against the hijab, even though maybe 60? people total wear religious garb over their head in Quebec. Its like, really? you're going to cost the governemnt thousands of dollars because you're so racist you cannot allow 60 people to practice their religion?? Well, religions have costed the government MILLIONS of dollars trying to get things like same-sex marriage banned. | ||
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brain_
United States812 Posts
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Ghazwan
Netherlands444 Posts
Butchering an animal and then eating it is fine, and at the same time we are ok with antagonizing a major social group to save the said animal from a few seconds of pain. It's not worth it. | ||
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
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Jokithedruid
Sweden74 Posts
On June 29 2011 06:05 Dizmaul wrote: I never understood why people would assume they can move to a new culture and practice there old one without anyone getting upset hah. I never understood why people cant accept that people eat/talk/sleep differently and always think that they are the center of universe which every1 else should orbit in a nice "normal" way. Stop the "it's mah town" b/s please, it's unintellegent and a fascistic way of thinking. | ||
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