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United States42738 Posts
On May 28 2011 14:36 Bosko wrote:Show nested quote + In addition to this they “forgot” all of the psychiatric medication I had been on at my house. It’s not that I am for psychiatric meds, but it certainly did not feel healthy or normal to go from taking this medication regularly, to just not having it and stopping with out tapering off of it.
From the moment I arrived at Cross Creek, I was treated as though I was broken, dirty, and inhuman Made me laugh. They don't give psychiatric meds to people who aren't broken. The way they took her to the schooled sounded like the worst part. That's not gonna help a mentally unstable kid who already has issues with their parents any.
This post is stupid beyond belief. You use meds to treat a physical problem. They give glasses to people whose eyes don't work. You give meds to people whose brains don't work. No more broken than someone with poor eyesight and I highly doubt you're perfect.
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Aren't these camps really old news though?
Think there was even a SP episode about them a couple of years ago.
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Sounds like the USA. It's also stupid that you can be legally detained like that on the words of your parents (assuming that's why it was legal), I'm pretty sure the US has some caveat in it's law similar to Gillick competence that determines if children can make their own decisions about medical treatment let alone being sent away for months to be wrecked.
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I'm curious, what was keeping her from simply getting up and leaving?
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I do not understand how the worlds biggest super power and promoter of freedom and democracy, can possibly allow this to be happening within their borders. The USA has an extreme amount of influence across the world politically, economically, militarily, culturally etc. and as cheesy and cliché as it sounds. "With great power, comes great responsibility" its pretty damn true.
I would really like to know whats going on in the US in general to be honest, as horror stories from the US is becoming a recurring theme.. I don't blame the American people though. If I lived in a country where i'm constantly told through media that I live in the free-est, richest country in the world I wouldn't spare a thought to that there might actually be something wrong in my nation. But alas history repeats itself. Look at any previous top dog from the past.. Roman Empire, Mongolian Empire, Persian Empire. Not to say that the US will crumble into nothingness. But I can't see them staying No.1 if they continue on the current course.
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Sounds so sensationalist, but i have seen documentaries about chinese addiction camps and camps to discipline spoilt kids
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Sweden33719 Posts
On May 28 2011 05:31 FictionSC wrote:
That made me so angry. I don't even know what else to say. If someone put me in that situation I would probably come back after they let me out and kill everyone. Im surprised that that didnt happen.
Probably the parents too to be honest, fucking awful human beings.
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DDOS the site
Mob the facility
This made me ill, the cruelty of some people is saddening.
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As much as there are many Americans keeping bragging about the freedom in their country, I only hear of camps of such kinds existing in the U.S. (in wester democracies, ofc.). Be it those weird "christian warrior" camps where children are drilled, diverse other religious camps and now this.
Last time I heard of any kind of brainwashing camp in Germany, it was immediately shut down (some neonazi camp).
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I didn't know stuff like this existed in US... Absolutely sickening..
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Total freedom from rules for children is what we have had drilled into us since the 70s by public media and "carebear mommys" and now we see the effect of this everywhere. Drunken minors, child pregnancies at 13, disrespect for laws and elders, mugging and stupid "fun" pictures over Facebook and of course sex selling everything and free porn on the internet.
I somehow doubt this statement is in any way valid. Especially in the context of this thread, do you really think 'carebear mommys' would send their child into this sort of thing? Even as a last resort. On the contrary, I would suggest it's probably most of the 'delinquents' here come from relatively strict, traditional families who have their child's misbehaviour as a mark of shame among their peers, (social tension, I'd say, is one of the few things that can override a parent's care for their child) If their peers are equally lax and uncautious, I doubt such tensions would manifest.
You will find, I think, that the activities you described have always existed, often due to the wildness of children, but equally often due to adults who take advantage of them. I know of several teen pregnancies caused by relationships with older men, for example, and parents who get smashed in front of their children at parties, stock up on loads of alcohol and describe various evil things they would do to their peers if they could. Children aren't wired to be savages, they're brought up to be savages, and not by the parents who give them freedom, but the ones who deny them and flaunt their own in front of them. That gives them the desire to experience such things.
I've observed that children who are not given rules but reasons are the most capable and moral of creatures, beyond even some of the most morally rigorous adults I have encountered. It is of course difficult to convey to children the reasons we have the rules we do in a way that they truly understand it, but it is not by any means impossible so long as one knows the child's experiences to use as reference. Only parents have that knowledge, only parents can do a truly excellent job of it, and parents, on the whole, are incredibly lacking to one end of the spectrum or another.
As was so famously stated "Rules are made to be broken, and often merely for the lazy to hide behind"
Edit: as for my feelings, If only I could find these people, hold them tight and then lay their own minds out before them and uncurl those closed and awful things they have done within themselves to let them be so... inhuman. I don't think anything more violent than the realization of what they have done to the children they have taken. As an Australian this strikes doubly close to home, my country more than any other knows how evil this is and how easy it can come to pass if one does not hold the desires and dreams of children sacred above all else.
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Washington, D.C9933 Posts
you don't need to look any further than america's interactions with other countries to deduce that hypocrisies like this exist within.
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So when are we burning this shit?
EDIT; I'm probably not the right person to hold the torch since I'm banned from entering the U.S.
But someone damn well should, and it's a miracle that none of them kids hasn't gone and painted the inside red already...
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We need a superhero who stealthily murders all the main figures in these sickening stories.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
This is horrible I cannot believe this is legal in America.
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On May 28 2011 14:36 Bosko wrote:Show nested quote + In addition to this they “forgot” all of the psychiatric medication I had been on at my house. It’s not that I am for psychiatric meds, but it certainly did not feel healthy or normal to go from taking this medication regularly, to just not having it and stopping with out tapering off of it.
From the moment I arrived at Cross Creek, I was treated as though I was broken, dirty, and inhuman Made me laugh. They don't give psychiatric meds to people who aren't broken. The way they took her to the schooled sounded like the worst part. That's not gonna help a mentally unstable kid who already has issues with their parents any.
Most antidepressants are SSRI's.
If an SSRI medication is suddenly discontinued, it may produce both somatic and psychological withdrawal symptoms, a phenomenon known as "SSRI discontinuation syndrome" (Tamam & Ozpoyraz, 2002). When the decision is made to stop taking antidepressants it is common practice to "wean" off of them by slowly decreasing the dose over a period of several weeks. Most cases of discontinuation syndrome last between one and four weeks.
It was a large medical mistake for these alleged (mental) 'health professionals' to not have taken her medicine with them.
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People are getting beaten up simply for who they are everywhere around the world. This isn't news.
Sure its damn hypocritical for the USA to have such camps, but hell, we just stopped a bill from passing in africa that allowed gay people to be executed. I can't be surprised by any of the monstrocities that people do anymore.
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The mother's half to blame.
After reading stories like this, I'm always thankful for the things I take for granted, like a supportive family.
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On May 28 2011 15:03 Barrin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 05:46 TreeDome wrote:Don't agree with anything that happened, and it is a terrible way to treat your children. But just pointing out that this isn't correct. ' The rule book and protocol also appeared to be directly based off of the Mormon religion (no caffeine etc.)' Even though most people think LDS can't drink caffeine, it isn't the case. While the LDS do have stricter rules with stuff like coffee and tea, the Word of Wisdom doesn't mention caffeine. Maybe you are right, but my parents are devout Mormons and seem to think that it covers caffeine. What it really says is "strong drink", which can be interpreted however the leaders want to interpret it. I'm guessing that one of them said it included caffeine at one point.
Your parents are mistaken.
http://lds.org/study/topics/word-of-wisdom?lang=eng
Though one could certainly place it in the "harmful" category, it is not forbidden by LDS doctrine.
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