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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 02:46:22
May 30 2011 02:45 GMT
#281
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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 05:23:28
May 30 2011 05:22 GMT
#282
On May 30 2011 07:46 Reddit TroubledTeens wrote:
Hi everyone,

I started the area of reddit you found this story in. I'm pixel8, I'm the person who originally posted that girl's horrifying tale.

I'm glad you are mad, you should be outraged by this story. We are talking about ways to fight these abusive facilities if you would like to join us.

Also, I've heard that many of the staff at these places are gamers that play overnight while the kids are sleeping. We are looking for employees that are disgusted and willing to covertly document the abuse. If you know of anyone, please contact me at reddittroubledteens@gmail.com.

This girl's story was, sadly enough, typical. These places exist in every state, hundreds of thousands of kids have been abused. There are huge survivor networks because the abuse is so rampant and traumatic. Yes, it's legal. There are no laws to protect these kids. YET.


Hi thanks for posting.

As you can see there is a general sense of outrage here. I think it would be good for the crediblity of this OP if you could post some links to other articles that have independently verified that this actually happens.

I am not calling you out but these allegations are serious and I am sure I am not the only one who would like to see some of the information you are collecting.

Thanks again and good luck!

Edit: Spelling
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Reddit TroubledTeens
Profile Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
May 30 2011 08:12 GMT
#283
Thank you, Probulous, I am happy to provide back up sources.

TIME.com article about abusive programs & how the internet can create change:
http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/05/increasingly-internet-activism-helps-shutter-abusive-troubled-teen-boot-camps/

Montana PBS video, 'Who's Watching the Kids?'. Riveting, explains why state's hands are tied and the corruption involved. There is a segment in the beginning of a brainwashed family, but then it gets really good:
http://watch.montanapbs.org/video/1430387622/

WWASP links:

Facebook group of WWASP survivors:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_2206196427

More WWASP survivors:
http://www.antiwwasp.us/forum.php

Even more:
http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Category:WWASP

Mit Romney's connection to WWASP:
http://reason.com/archives/2007/06/27/romney-torture-and-teens

Verified Q&A on reddit of a WWASP student, with pics of evidence of his attendance:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/gtrdr/iama_survivor_of_wwasp_schools_tranquility_bay/

Or just google WWASP

Non-WWASP facilities (yeah, there's lots more):

This will turn your stomach. Gv't report on this kid's death, they found the people who were watching over him to be negligent, but released all charges because 'the facility closed'. They did not investigate Aspen, who owns a chain of facilities who's policies caused this kid's death, nor the employees who taunted him as he was dying. This is not a WWASP facility, but another conglomeration like WWASP called Aspen Education Group. They have had many deaths over the years, google it.
http://www.cafety.org/privately-funded-programs/834-abuse-investigation-a-protective-services-report-death-of-sb-or-sagewalk

Family School Foundation TRUTH, they have prompted 3 NY dept's to investigate, they found violations but their hands were tied, all they could do was 'make recommendations' for change:
http://www.thefamilyschooltruth.com/State_Investigates_Abuse.html

Here is a list of children who have died in facilities. Notice all the (R)'s by the names. They indicate children that died by being restrained, often by employees that were not properly trained, who thought that the kid's thrashing was because of defiance, not a struggle to live:
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/INMEMORIAM.html
There is a legend in a white box towards the bottom of the page that tells what each child's death was a result of.

Overview of the entire industry:
http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Scroll up a little for a listing of abusive facilities by state:
http://www.heal-online.org/childtortureusa.htm#alabama1

Baptist Gulag survivor group:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Independent-Fundamental-Baptist-IFB-Cult-Survivors-and-Their-Supporters/207805449251466
________________________________

Want more? There's lots more. Come to www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens, or do your own research. It's really not hard to find.

Thank you for caring. This is a billion-dollar industry based on abusing & brainwashing kids to maximize profits, and it needs to stop today. It's unbelievable that they get away with these things, but there is no law against it. Really.
Reddit TroubledTeens
Profile Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
May 30 2011 08:18 GMT
#284
Again, if you are outraged, come here to use your powers for good and stop this abuse. Thanks.
cbt111
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 09:19:25
May 30 2011 09:04 GMT
#285
like someone mentioned, it sounds like a weird book and not like something that's actually happening. i hope these people get what they deserve.
PlaGuE_R
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
France1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 09:07:52
May 30 2011 09:07 GMT
#286
On May 30 2011 17:18 Reddit TroubledTeens wrote:
Again, if you are outraged, come here to use your powers for good and stop this abuse. Thanks.


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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
May 31 2011 04:10 GMT
#287
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 30 2011 17:12 Reddit TroubledTeens wrote:
Thank you, Probulous, I am happy to provide back up sources.

TIME.com article about abusive programs & how the internet can create change:
http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/05/increasingly-internet-activism-helps-shutter-abusive-troubled-teen-boot-camps/

Montana PBS video, 'Who's Watching the Kids?'. Riveting, explains why state's hands are tied and the corruption involved. There is a segment in the beginning of a brainwashed family, but then it gets really good:
http://watch.montanapbs.org/video/1430387622/

WWASP links:

Facebook group of WWASP survivors:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_2206196427

More WWASP survivors:
http://www.antiwwasp.us/forum.php

Even more:
http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Category:WWASP

Mit Romney's connection to WWASP:
http://reason.com/archives/2007/06/27/romney-torture-and-teens

Verified Q&A on reddit of a WWASP student, with pics of evidence of his attendance:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/gtrdr/iama_survivor_of_wwasp_schools_tranquility_bay/

Or just google WWASP

Non-WWASP facilities (yeah, there's lots more):

This will turn your stomach. Gv't report on this kid's death, they found the people who were watching over him to be negligent, but released all charges because 'the facility closed'. They did not investigate Aspen, who owns a chain of facilities who's policies caused this kid's death, nor the employees who taunted him as he was dying. This is not a WWASP facility, but another conglomeration like WWASP called Aspen Education Group. They have had many deaths over the years, google it.
http://www.cafety.org/privately-funded-programs/834-abuse-investigation-a-protective-services-report-death-of-sb-or-sagewalk

Family School Foundation TRUTH, they have prompted 3 NY dept's to investigate, they found violations but their hands were tied, all they could do was 'make recommendations' for change:
http://www.thefamilyschooltruth.com/State_Investigates_Abuse.html

Here is a list of children who have died in facilities. Notice all the (R)'s by the names. They indicate children that died by being restrained, often by employees that were not properly trained, who thought that the kid's thrashing was because of defiance, not a struggle to live:
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/INMEMORIAM.html
There is a legend in a white box towards the bottom of the page that tells what each child's death was a result of.

Overview of the entire industry:
http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Scroll up a little for a listing of abusive facilities by state:
http://www.heal-online.org/childtortureusa.htm#alabama1

Baptist Gulag survivor group:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Independent-Fundamental-Baptist-IFB-Cult-Survivors-and-Their-Supporters/207805449251466
________________________________

Want more? There's lots more. Come to www.reddit.com/r/troubledteens, or do your own research. It's really not hard to find.

Thank you for caring. This is a billion-dollar industry based on abusing & brainwashing kids to maximize profits, and it needs to stop today. It's unbelievable that they get away with these things, but there is no law against it. Really.


Thanks for this info. So often something like this appears on forums and it turns out to be a beat up (no pun intended, seriously).

Will have a look. I think the OP should include this.

Thanks again and goodluck!
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
May 31 2011 04:22 GMT
#288
On May 30 2011 06:39 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 04:17 nennx wrote:
Religion is definitely to blame here. The sooner we all abandon religion the better off mankind will be.


They abandoned religion in China.

Things are great over there.

Things actually are fine there. Not sure what you're trying to insinuate...

The only issues really come from the communist party and overpopulation, which have nothing to do with religion.
Reddit TroubledTeens
Profile Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
May 31 2011 10:38 GMT
#289
Thanks for this info. So often something like this appears on forums and it turns out to be a beat up (no pun intended, seriously).

Will have a look. I think the OP should include this.

Thanks again and goodluck!


No prob! Glad to do it!
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
May 31 2011 10:45 GMT
#290
We should try to spread this to as many famous people as possible. I've already sent a mail to Richard Dawkins Foundation, and I advice you to do the same, so it can become a featured article/get a comment from Richard Dawkins himself.

http://richarddawkins.net/

I guess this is the right place to mail it to:
Article Submissions:
If you would like to submit a link to an article online for discussion on RichardDawkins.net, please send an email WITH THE TITLE OF THE ARTICLE IN THE SUBJECT LINE and the link in the body to articles@richarddawkins.net. Please include the name by which you would like to be publicly credited.
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P3T3R
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
May 31 2011 10:52 GMT
#291
TL;DR

Anyone care to summarize or has anyone in the 15 pages do so already?
Based on little reading, it's about some camp that turns gays into straights? or wat?

User was temp banned for this post.
"I don't care about the law. I care about justice"
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
May 31 2011 11:07 GMT
#292
Can't believe its legal in a modern(?) state. Shameful display!
England will fight to the last American
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 11:21:35
May 31 2011 11:19 GMT
#293
On May 31 2011 19:52 P3T3R wrote:
TL;DR

Anyone care to summarize or has anyone in the 15 pages do so already?
Based on little reading, it's about some camp that turns gays into straights? or wat?

Please have some respect for the person who wrote this. She spent 2.5 years being robbed of her freedom whilst being abused in various ways and you can't bring yourself up to flip through a few pages? Makes me wonder why you even posted.

On topic: Absolutely terrible what happened here, though I've heard of this kind of thing before. Will educate myself further on the topic and see if I can make myself useful. Appreciate the links, pixel8.
ohGr
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden42 Posts
May 31 2011 11:38 GMT
#294
Disgusting, but not very surprising - now is it?
He's not dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
May 31 2011 13:24 GMT
#295
On May 29 2011 14:45 Barrin wrote:As far as I'm concerned you're not really hurting anybody (well if you want to get technical its on the same level as masturbation with the whole millions of sperm i.e. potential humans that do not get a chance - but nobody really cares about that - actually Mormons do now that I think about it.....).


Even if you have sex with a woman and you don't use a condom, you still kill millions of sperm cells, except the one that (maybe) makes it to the egg.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
May 31 2011 13:36 GMT
#296
Somehow, I'm not surprised at all...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
May 31 2011 13:49 GMT
#297
just read this story. not even sure if this is like out of a horror movie or something because it sure sounds like it.
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11640 Posts
May 31 2011 13:56 GMT
#298
Really, already the name "Behavioural modification camp" sounds like something from a fascist dictatorship.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10811 Posts
May 31 2011 13:59 GMT
#299
On May 31 2011 22:56 Simberto wrote:
Really, already the name "Behavioural modification camp" sounds like something from a fascist dictatorship.


As long as it is not communist it's fine .
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