On May 28 2011 08:47 kirdie wrote: I don't really believe that is legal even in the USA...
That's just it. It is, but it's the "Half legal." The only reason their asses aren't in jail right now is because they try to sweep everything they do under the rug and hide it, while anyone who's ever been to the place knows that they're hiding it and that they really are just being sadistic assholes imposing their belief on others. The second part is quite simple and stupid. I'd bet money that the mother didn't consult her daughter and signed away without reading the literal fine print. She signed, and according to our legal system she gave permission. It bothers me that someone can give consent of someone else. When did the girl give her consent? She didn't, but apparently our parents can do that for us. Ugh.
This is just insane. Ban religion please. How come people believe in old myths? I find it funny that people laugh at Thor and Zeus, but believe in Jesus.
I don't see how the US goverment allow this to happen. If a school over here gets even 1 complaint no matter how big or small there is a huge inquest into it.
I went to a boarding school all my life, while there i was treated with respected everyday and in return i treated them the same way.
I feel so sorry for this girl and all other people that go there.
On May 28 2011 09:01 Arnstein wrote: This is just insane. Ban religion please. How come people believe in old myths? I find it funny that people laugh at Thor and Zeus, but believe in Jesus.
On May 28 2011 09:01 Arnstein wrote: This is just insane. Ban religion please. How come people believe in old myths? I find it funny that people laugh at Thor and Zeus, but believe in Jesus.
I asked a christian kid about 9 years old this question and I completely stumped him.
"Do you believe in the greek gods?" "No, they're just myths." "Right, to explain lightning?" "Yeah." "So all that magical stuff like granting wishes and ghosts are impossible, right?" "So what makes the the miracles that jesus and god perform any less mythical and impossible." "Gods existence doesn't explain lightning or scientific stuff. Nor does he cause lightning, he just incites the static or whatever." "Yes, but we know that monotheism developed from polytheism, and polytheism exhibits individual gods, and they were used to explain lightning and natural disasters. The religion then developed to say that he just "Incited" it around the time of the scientific method." He sat there, with his hands stroking his chin and he just said "I don't know."
People really don't think things through when they consider things like this.
On May 28 2011 09:01 Arnstein wrote: This is just insane. Ban religion please. How come people believe in old myths? I find it funny that people laugh at Thor and Zeus, but believe in Jesus.
Because Jesus was an actual person? Whether or not you believe he was a prophet or Son of God, he still existed.
absolutely horrid that it's possible to get away with something like this in any way whatsoever. Also I must say that I am completely shocked by this girls mother and how she could actually, not only let something like this happen, but send her own daughter of to something like this. Feel so bad for anyone who's had to go through any program that even slightly resembles anything like what was just described.
On May 28 2011 09:01 Arnstein wrote: This is just insane. Ban religion please. How come people believe in old myths? I find it funny that people laugh at Thor and Zeus, but believe in Jesus.
Because Jesus was an actual person? Whether or not you believe he was a prophet or Son of God, he still existed.
I asked a christian kid about 9 years old this question and I completely stumped him.
"Do you believe in the greek gods?" "No, they're just myths." "Right, to explain lightning?" "Yeah." "So all that magical stuff like granting wishes and ghosts are impossible, right?" "So what makes the the miracles that jesus and god perform any less mythical and impossible." "Gods existence doesn't explain lightning or scientific stuff. Nor does he cause lightning, he just incites the static or whatever." "Yes, but we know that monotheism developed from polytheism, and polytheism exhibits individual gods, and they were used to explain lightning and natural disasters. The religion then developed to say that he just "Incited" it around the time of the scientific method." He sat there, with his hands stroking his chin and he just said "I don't know."
it's not really impressive that you won a theological debate with a nine year old, i hope you know. there are holes in what you said just slightly smaller than the ones in what he said.
Although what happened at this school is absolutely horrible. The problem is that enough people are just so prejudice and closed minded that there is enough support to allow these schools to exist. If there was no desire for parents to send students to a facility like this then the school would not exist in the first place. I hope as time progresses parents will realize that by not accepting what they perceive as faults of their children then they will probably cause more damage by not being a supportive or at least an understanding character.
On May 28 2011 09:01 Arnstein wrote: This is just insane. Ban religion please. How come people believe in old myths? I find it funny that people laugh at Thor and Zeus, but believe in Jesus.
Because Jesus was an actual person? Whether or not you believe he was a prophet or Son of God, he still existed.
Yes, Jesus was a common name back then, nobody called Jesus fulfilled the story of the Bible in real life, the new testament is essentially a mix of Greek and Egyptian gods. To say Jesus existed 2000 years ago is like somebody in 2000 years from now saying "2000 years ago a guy called Steve existed".
Utah is the place for you if you're a christian conservative. Lots of the moron denomination reside there, and as a result lots of funky laws get passed.
On May 28 2011 09:51 julianto wrote: Utah is the place for you if you're a christian conservative. Lots of the moron denomination reside there, and as a result lots of funky laws get passed.
Alright, are we done talking about the religion stuff people? back to the topic.
It bothers me that an "Official" teen help program turns out to be so abusive and unlawful. The fact that people like this get put in a position of power, and not reprimanded for abusing their power, is disgusting, and bothersome.
On May 28 2011 05:23 SiPa wrote: America fuck yeah! Thank god this isnt happening in Germany nor Swizerland
Fuck off, because it's the entire country's fault right? And nothing bad has ever happened in Germany has it? What I love about that is everyone's mind automatically goes to one very specific thing when you mention bad things happening in Germany, that's how much you guys messed up. except wait, you guys weren't the ones that messed up just one specific group of people, and that's why we don't blame the entire nation...
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Feel so bad for anyone who's had to go through any program that even slightly resembles anything like what was just described.
