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On May 28 2011 08:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if that kid was a right pain in the ass originally, and this was extreme measure to make it civil
People find it hard to view my flaws, and dear god my teenage sister is top among those :/
Either you didn't read any of it or you flat out think she completely lied, for no reason.
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As much hate as I have for the people running that camp after reading that story, the true villain in all of that is her mother.
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On May 28 2011 08:12 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 08:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if that kid was a right pain in the ass originally, and this was extreme measure to make it civil
People find it hard to view my flaws, and dear god my teenage sister is top among those :/ Either you didn't read any of it or you flat out think she completely lied, for no reason.
It's possible she hates her family enough to lie, but edited my post anyway
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Blazinghand
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On May 28 2011 07:24 Lucidx wrote:
>Read first person post on Reddit
>Must be true
Don't you think, with this massive era of being politically correct in the US, that something would be done about this? If not by the government, then by huge activist groups like the ACLU?
Think about it people.
I had a friend who was shipped off to a camp like this. These places do exist, and although he didn't describe it with quite the same malice that this reddit poster did, it was clearly a damaging experience for him. He came back and seemed okay, reformed even, but suffered a negative personality change that's caused him a lot of trouble.
It wasn't all bad-- he picked up study habits and a work ethic that helped him in college-- but it also wrecked him emotionally and psychologically, and he is a damaged person today. Before he left, he was a lazy bum who played video games all day. Now he's an abusive boyfriend, passing along the abuse he recieved at his camp.
The fact of the matter is, these schools are relatively small and relatively few, so the number of people impacted by them is small as well. They're usually out in the wilderness (my friend's school was in Montana) and there are similar schools that aren't terrible, so the bad ones mix in with the good.
These "tough love" abuse schools do exist, and they ARE terrible, and nothing they do is illegal, because all the children consent to it, either in writing or verbally with a parent signature. They will not be prosecuted. They will not be stopped, under current law, and that's just how it is...
it's an ugly world.
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Things like this is why everyone should have a gun with them at all times. They'll have a much harder time dragging you off to some hellhole with their brains on the wall.
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On May 28 2011 08:15 Millitron wrote:
Things like this is why everyone should have a gun with them at all times. They'll have a much harder time dragging you off to some hellhole with their brains on the wall.
If you think that's actually going to lead to a better society, I think you need to be sent to one of those camps.
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I'm on the second paragraph. I'm pretty sure I would have violently screamed in the airport that i was being abducted and abused.
Airport security nowadays would be ON THAT SHIT in moments if they saw some kid being tied up and handled like that, claiming to be being abducted.
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On May 28 2011 08:21 Loanshark wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 08:15 Millitron wrote:
Things like this is why everyone should have a gun with them at all times. They'll have a much harder time dragging you off to some hellhole with their brains on the wall. If you think that's actually going to lead to a better society, I think you need to be sent to one of those camps.
That's not the point, its about personal security. I'm liberal, but sure as hell if I was in the states i'd have a gun or two. Country is rife with gun crime, you need a gun to get on a level with the criminals.
One of the many upsides in living here in Europe, guns ain't something you have to worry about!
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On May 28 2011 07:28 Lucidx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 07:25 rycho wrote:On May 28 2011 07:24 Lucidx wrote:
>Read first person post on Reddit
>Must be true
Don't you think, with this massive era of being politically correct in the US, that something would be done about this? If not by the government, then by huge activist groups like the ACLU?
Think about it people. not at all, look at our prison system if you have any doubts about that What about the prison system? The prisoners are treated way too well in my opinion.
if you think people deserve being tortured/raped/killed because they put drugs in their own body (if they are guilty of anything at all) or their race then i sort of feel bad for you.
i hope this is a troll though
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On May 28 2011 07:24 Lucidx wrote:
>Read first person post on Reddit
>Must be true
Don't you think, with this massive era of being politically correct in the US, that something would be done about this? If not by the government, then by huge activist groups like the ACLU?
Think about it people.
No. You're incredibly naive to think that.
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the funny part is in the US is that if you had money you could simply petition the court to be emancipated and as a full legal adult you would immediately be able to leave. It's a shame there is a legal distinction between minors and adults.
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Having grown up in America, hearing about this makes me sick. I'm pretty sure they'd have to knock me out to get me to go with them, i'm amazed that people in an airport saw this girl with a belt around her and said nothing.
I didn't read it all the way through, but i'm going to go ahead and assume her mother was a dumb religious fanatic? If i'm wrong, sorry -0-
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sickening. I only read the first 7 paragraphs and I had to stop...
I agree with people saying they would have fought. If people I didn't know woke me up in bed the first thing I'd do is grab the heaviest thing off my nightstand...
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On May 28 2011 08:12 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
As much hate as I have for the people running that camp after reading that story, the true villain in all of that is her mother.
This is the truth. Her mother sent her there not because of her dabbling in drugs or sexual activity, but because she liked the same sex. Then later when she told her mother about her being raped, her mom goes and tells everybody and tells her daughter she deserves it. No one deserves to be raped and it is horrific that a mother would tell her daughter that she did.
Either this girl is an eloquent and masterful liar or she is telling the truth. She may have exaggerated in some places but I don't believe so and I am sure she has been through something extremely traumatic that I don't know if I could suffer through.
Also, I think people are putting too much thought into the religious aspect. Yes CC seems to be very religious oriented and I believe it is, but religion isn't to blame. Close-minded and ignorant people who hide behind religion to force their beliefs on others is to blame.
(This is coming from someone who is in no way religious.)
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I don't really believe that is legal even in the USA...
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ya these places are really fucked up. is a shame shit like this actually exists in this country
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On May 28 2011 08:12 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
As much hate as I have for the people running that camp after reading that story, the true villain in all of that is her mother.
QFT Her mother completely betrayed the trust her daughter put in her by twisting the story and disclosing the information to her friends.
Her mother couldn't accept that her daughter was lesbian and sent her away to a facility KNOWN for being abusive so that they could "fix" her. That's disgusting.
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reminds me of southpark season 11 episode 2.
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Wow. At first I thought it was a joke because it sounded so similar to the South Park episode where Butters goes to a camp for being gay =/. But actually it's what South Park was trying to parody.
I'm curious what the solution to this is. The thing is, these camps do have a purpose and parents should have the right to send their kids to camp. But there needs to be some way out, or else it is like a prison. I'm thinking a government official should be able to tour all of these kinds of camps periodically and each kid should have the option of talking to this official when they come around.
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This is terrible beyond words...no doubt about that. So enraging yet saddening to see something like this happen :[
I also still cannot believe (sort of a sidenote) it when such terrible programs or the ilk incorporate religion in such a grotesque and hypocritical way. It's also quite absurd, that there are people who believe that this is directly the result of religion. Religion has caused some very bad things, but it is not directly responsible for the unjustifiable actions carried out by misguided and/or utterly immoral individuals.
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