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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 28 2011 09:14 GMT
#141
OP wants the discussion to be as civil as possible with a blatant flame bait topic.
XicalaAera
Profile Joined December 2009
United States51 Posts
May 28 2011 09:25 GMT
#142
For the record this is not the work of real Christians, this is a cult. I am, as a Christian, disgusted at these people.
“Ability is nothing without opportunity.”
Cyba
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania221 Posts
May 28 2011 09:54 GMT
#143
The funny part is, if the parents themselves would drag their kids around in handcuffs and verbally abuse them that way somebody would prolly take them away.

But if they're sent to camp and somebody else handles the abuse it's ok ? o0
I'm not evil, I'm just good lookin
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
May 28 2011 11:54 GMT
#144
Wow this is horrifying and the mother is a truly awful person. If I had been put in one of those places after I had "graduated" I would have gone back with an AK.
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
May 28 2011 12:00 GMT
#145
On May 28 2011 17:40 gibb wrote:
So when are we burning this shit?

EDIT; I'm probably not the right person to hold the torch since I'm banned from entering the U.S.
But someone damn well should, and it's a miracle that none of them kids hasn't gone and painted the inside red already...



Out of interest, care to say how you got banned?
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
May 28 2011 12:02 GMT
#146
On May 28 2011 18:25 XicalaAera wrote:
For the record this is not the work of real Christians, this is a cult. I am, as a Christian, disgusted at these people.


Ooh i didn't know we had someone that could excommunicate people on the forums.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
May 28 2011 12:04 GMT
#147
On May 28 2011 11:51 Starfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 11:43 Deadeight wrote:
On May 28 2011 11:43 bahl sofs tiil wrote:
On May 28 2011 05:23 SiPa wrote:
America fuck yeah!
Thank god this isnt happening in Germany nor Swizerland


I tried to verify if this statement was true but when I searched "germany gay camp" all I got were a bunch of stories from the 1940's...


Godwin's Law...

Well, the story reminded me of re-education camps, but still his comment does in no way satisfy Godwin's Law.+ Show Spoiler +
Seems like you throw that around like Gretorp does with 'metagame'


Did you understand his comment?
ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
May 28 2011 12:40 GMT
#148
On May 28 2011 21:00 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 17:40 gibb wrote:
So when are we burning this shit?

EDIT; I'm probably not the right person to hold the torch since I'm banned from entering the U.S.
But someone damn well should, and it's a miracle that none of them kids hasn't gone and painted the inside red already...



Out of interest, care to say how you got banned?


Might not be specific to gibb, but anyone with a criminal record has no hope of entering America if any of the charges are violent or drug related.
Nada got Yooned
Greatness
Profile Joined May 2011
United States450 Posts
May 28 2011 12:48 GMT
#149
This article totally reminds me of this South Park Episode: http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s11e02-cartman-sucks

If anyone has 20 minutes of free time, I highly recommend it. It's funny because South Park is totally doing a satire on it, but sad at the same time since it's true.
Foooky
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia205 Posts
May 28 2011 12:51 GMT
#150
On May 28 2011 17:53 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 14:36 Bosko wrote:
In addition to this they “forgot” all of the psychiatric medication I had been on at my house. It’s not that I am for psychiatric meds, but it certainly did not feel healthy or normal to go from taking this medication regularly, to just not having it and stopping with out tapering off of it.

From the moment I arrived at Cross Creek, I was treated as though I was broken, dirty, and inhuman


Made me laugh. They don't give psychiatric meds to people who aren't broken.

The way they took her to the schooled sounded like the worst part. That's not gonna help a mentally unstable kid who already has issues with their parents any.


Most antidepressants are SSRI's.

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If an SSRI medication is suddenly discontinued, it may produce both somatic and psychological withdrawal symptoms, a phenomenon known as "SSRI discontinuation syndrome" (Tamam & Ozpoyraz, 2002). When the decision is made to stop taking antidepressants it is common practice to "wean" off of them by slowly decreasing the dose over a period of several weeks. Most cases of discontinuation syndrome last between one and four weeks.


It was a large medical mistake for these alleged (mental) 'health professionals' to not have taken her medicine with them.


Meh, SSRIs dont necessarily need to be tapered off if they are low dose. She didn't complain about withdrawal symptoms so more than likely she was fine. I don't know about America but non-drug measures i.e. therapy sounds like the right way to go, but perhaps her parents chose the wrong camp. Anyhow I have never understood how these people get themselves into the situations where they get raped - I would not necessarily trust anyone to go into a place alone...
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
May 28 2011 14:31 GMT
#151
Anyone care to elaborate on the legality of these kind of camps?
I know elsewhere in the World this wouldn't fly due to child abuse alone.

Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
Hedgehog
Profile Joined May 2011
Macedonia73 Posts
May 28 2011 14:40 GMT
#152
I can not believe that my 1st post would be on a topic like this. But I have a thing or 3 to say about it. This article disgusts me. I too was raised in a broken home with 2 alcoholic leaving me with lots of psychological scars and to this day I can hear the screams of my mother as my dad was beating her. Because of this I get totally furious when I witness/hear/read things like this. And let me get this straight, it's not their religious set of rules they abide but them wanting to IMPRINT it on minors in a very fragile phase of their emotional develpment with means like I've read here. I myself am atheist but i have Orthodox Cristian, Catholic, Muslim and even Methodist friends who would be as outraged as I am. What baffles me the most are 3 things. How she was taken, Her mother's attitude towards the issue and the treatment itself. I didn't go through all the article but I wonder why any other member of her family, or friends didn't try to raise publicity on the issue. Maybe they were in the same fucked up mindset as her mother was. 2nd, if some1 barges in and abducts a minor, no matter the reasons it's a freaking 5-15 years prison time here in Macedonia. And I wonder how the institution thinks they'll 'help' by using the same things the person is trying to recover from. And I am amazed how no1 tried to raze that place to the ground yet.

I agree that leaving an unstable person unattended could lead to tragedies like school shootings and other utterly bad things. But no matter what, you can't reshape a person's set of values after the 14th year of age since that's when a personality of a person is fully developed. Trying to do so instead of helping the person reshape him/herself would be catastrophic to that person's emotional/psychological well being. And in extreme cases it would lead to some gruesome events.

Every person raised in an unstable environment copes in his or her own way,and to be totally honest if i didn't have my brother to help me through those times I'd prolly wouldn't be here right now. And if I was subjected to this kind of treatment I would be serving a lifetime for mass murder. It's beyond belief how can places like these be allowed to exist in the states a country we look up to become. I admire this girl for being able to keep going after that, And if 1 of my girl friends told me that she was raped instead of telling every1 I'd prolly be rearranging that thing's skeletal structure.

And no this isn't USA's fault, but people who condone this kind of treatment and won't bring the system's attention into it. I really doubt this 'institution' could get away with every abduction they did totally ignoring the human right's and more importantly the rights of the child.
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Divide et impera
Chylo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States220 Posts
May 28 2011 14:47 GMT
#153
Interesting that everyone accepts this story as 100% true as retold by the person. There's been a lot of similar types of stories posted like this on the internet in order to create viral campaigns for fictional authors, (and designed to create a lot of outrage - on purpose) not saying this is one necessarily but it's just comical how everyone assumes everything some random text on the internet is the complete story coming from an anonymous author, and then go on to immediately blame religion, the usa, etc etc
bjwithbraces
Profile Joined April 2010
United States549 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 15:18:09
May 28 2011 15:15 GMT
#154
On May 28 2011 23:47 Chylo wrote:
Interesting that everyone accepts this story as 100% true as retold by the person. There's been a lot of similar types of stories posted like this on the internet in order to create viral campaigns for fictional authors, (and designed to create a lot of outrage - on purpose) not saying this is one necessarily but it's just comical how everyone assumes everything some random text on the internet is the complete story coming from an anonymous author, and then go on to immediately blame religion, the usa, etc etc


You know, towards the end as I was reading it, I was like "Hm, this is pretty well written". That doesn't mean much, except to me it didn't fit the story it was telling. Really good diction and rhetoric, almost makes you wonder. I wasn't going to comment about it further or post, but I saw your post and figured I had to now :p [e] However, I personally don't think it's the case you're arguing for.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/unipolarity/inventory/
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 28 2011 15:18 GMT
#155
On May 28 2011 23:47 Chylo wrote:
Interesting that everyone accepts this story as 100% true as retold by the person. There's been a lot of similar types of stories posted like this on the internet in order to create viral campaigns for fictional authors, (and designed to create a lot of outrage - on purpose) not saying this is one necessarily but it's just comical how everyone assumes everything some random text on the internet is the complete story coming from an anonymous author, and then go on to immediately blame religion, the usa, etc etc


it's a lawsuite ......

seriously
Jiffymix
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
May 28 2011 16:17 GMT
#156
Don't understand people who say things like 'only in the USA'. Murder, rape, child abduction... all sorts of terrible shit happens all over the world. The USA is a great country, but obviously far from perfect.

Evil exists. We shouldn't tolerate it, and in fact we should do all we can to resist it, but we must also try to understand how and why it exists in an individual. That individual most likely grew up in an environment that encouraged these sorts of beliefs, and he/she is simply the result of that flawed system.

What is important is that people persevere, resist the beliefs that he/she grew up around, and make their own choice to hopefully do the right thing. We shouldn't just accept that a person who grew up in an evil environment grows up to be a serial killer, but help them through their past difficulties, give them the opportunities to persevere and grow into a good human being.
ahr28
Profile Joined May 2011
6 Posts
May 28 2011 16:23 GMT
#157
This is absolutely terrible. I have done my own research on the subject, but I can tell you it is hard. Why ? Because first of all you dont know what is true and what is false. Second of all, that which you believe, is true, and I can tell you that some of the documents that I personally own concerning brainwashing, programming, etc in cults is absolutely MIND-BOGGLING - to say the least.
It is the most filthy thing I have read in my life, and I'm not sure whether I was better of not having found the document in the first place. That is also the reason that I am not linking those documents here.

Concerning the WWASP, I am not sure what we can do to stop them. It's cruel, and above all (this is not coming from a religious person, but I do believe in a higher foce) it is NOT an "act" of God or neither God's way.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 23:01:35
May 28 2011 23:01 GMT
#158
-accident-
Too Busy to Troll!
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
May 28 2011 23:05 GMT
#159
On May 28 2011 23:31 Armathai wrote:
Anyone care to elaborate on the legality of these kind of camps?
I know elsewhere in the World this wouldn't fly due to child abuse alone.


In every country, bullshit work. They can just say something along the lines of:

"It's not abuse, it's behavioral modification. They're meant to uplift children whom their parents believe have engaged in negative, destructive, troublesome, if not illegal, actions before. It's in no way religious, as it cares for the general welfare of any child in need of help.
It uses a well calculated curriculum and support system with the addition of well-trained, professional therapists, a buddy-system, and respected authority figures."

And no one will have shit on them, as long as parents are willing to send their kids there.
A person willing to die for a cause is a hero. A person willing to kill for a cause is a madman
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
May 28 2011 23:23 GMT
#160
On May 28 2011 05:50 DisneylandSC wrote:
Religion at its finest. Absolutely disgusting.


I don't think it's possible for me to agree any more than I do with this statement.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
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