EPTOn May 10 2011 12:30 GeneralissimoNero wrote:
WOOOOOOOOW What is going on.
WOOOOOOOOW What is going on.
thats a reasonable question
they are all crazy down there
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
thats a reasonable question they are all crazy down there | ||
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CortoMontez
Australia608 Posts
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
On May 12 2011 20:23 zalz wrote: That's it? You demonstrate a deeply lacking understanding of even the most basic aspects of christian streams like catholicism and then you go out with some cheap shots and (as is to be expected at this point) avoiding anything i said. Don't engage in a debate when this is the best you come up with. It's not my mistake when i know things you don't. What you are pointing out is a major flaw within the roman catholic church. Saying it extends as a base to all christianity is ignorant. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
What you are pointing out is a major flaw within the roman catholic church. Saying it extends as a base to all christianity is ignorant. This is what i said: One of the foundations of catholic christianity is the confession. You might want to realize that you don't know as much about christianity as you think you do. In what possible way would this ever mean that i extended it to all of christianity? I clearly said catholic. | ||
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Triscuit
United States722 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On May 13 2011 02:46 Triscuit wrote: Zalz, people are avoiding debating you directly because you're acting like a giant, enraged asshole. Bullying your way around debates via condescension is not the way to engage in a debate. Yes it's really my fault that people are intentionally ignoring the fact that i said catholic infront of it. There is hardly a debate possible when people keep accusing you of mistakes you never made just because they feel like you should have made them. I can't really care too much what those kind of people think about me. Not a single one of my posts has been without arguments and actuall points relating to the discussions whilst i have had to face dozens that were little more then false accusations or atacks on my person and nothing else. Someone just said this: What you are pointing out is a major flaw within the roman catholic church. Saying it extends as a base to all christianity is ignorant. Something i clearly never said. It's not open for interpretation, you literally cannot draw this conclusion from my post. I demonstrate this and what do i get? You talking about how much of an asshole you think i am? This is exactly what i have been talking about all the time. People twisting reality to suit their own needs. That guy desperately needed me to generalize on christianity so he made a false accusation against me. What is really more deserving of criticism? Someone that throws down a passionate defence for the lives of homosexuals or a rather numerous group of posters at this point that continuously make false accusations against me? Nowhere is it more clearly demonstrated then with Manicshock. False claim, proof, done. Still you don't mind the fact that he made something up in a debate, you are more occupied with still shifting the blame to me. It ain't the first time this happened in this topic and it probably won't be the last. You can think of me what you like because i ain't trying to win a popularity contest and atleast i don't make stuff up in order to argue people. | ||
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AraMoOse
Canada66 Posts
If your sole purpose is to express yourself, then by all means, that is your right. But if you truly want to get this message across to people, I think you're going about it exactly the wrong way. Stop treating everyone who disagrees with you, listen to what other people have to say, address their concerns instead of attacking them and you will likely get way more bang for your buck. | ||
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
Doubting god isn't exactly something christians get to do. A child molester has more chance of getting into heaven if he confesses his sins then someone who doubts god. and then reading between the lines I suppose on the one where you were coming off as holier then thou. On May 12 2011 20:02 zalz wrote: Your point? I allready pointed out it's a catholic concept. What possible use does it have to say that protestants reject is when i allready pointed out that it's a catholic concept? This right here is basically proof that you are ignorant. "But I said it was catholics, wtf does any other sect of christian have to do with the idea that all of christianity has the exact same flaws." Does that make it any clearer to you what you just said? You're discussing christianity as a whole based entirely on one sect, using ideas within that sect that are not widespread among christianity and tbh are flawed. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Zalz - I'm fairly certain at this point that you are accomplishing the opposite of what you initially set out to do. You make those of us who would criticize religions, and in this case Catholicism specifically, look like a bunch of self righteous pretentious assholes. Rather than convincing people, you are ensuring that people immediately disregard your comments. I can't recall anyone having taken the time to actually engage in a debate at this point. From my first post the focus was instantly shifted towards ignoring all my points and focussing on style over substance. This right here is basically proof that you are ignorant. "But I said it was catholics, wtf does any other sect of christian have to do with the idea that all of christianity has the exact same flaws." Does that make it any clearer to you what you just said? You're discussing christianity as a whole based entirely on one sect, using ideas within that sect that are not widespread among christianity and tbh are flawed. Nothing you pretend i said, did i ever say. If i had actually said anything like that you would have brought the quote in but you didn't. This is exactly what i mean. You can't just make stuff up to suit you in a debate. As for it being "not widespread" among christianity, that is both incorrect and a peculiar train of reason. It is incorrect because catholics make up more or less 50% of all christians in the world. Some estimate it slightly above, some slightly below. Regardless of that, still half of the worlds christians embrace those concepts. To call it "not widespead" is simply wrong. In the world of christianity there are no more widespread concepts then those of catholicism. It is a peculiar train of reason because by saying that you create a condition with wich you can reject every negative or strange thing i bring about regarding christianity. Only catholicism has a majority, all the other sects are minorities. By your reasoning no matter what any of them do or say, i can't criticise any of them because each one of them doesn't represent the majority. If i am critical of them as a whole you will claim that each sect has a different view and thus i would be generalising. But if i go after the individual sects then they don't represent the majority. | ||
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
On May 13 2011 16:29 zalz wrote:Nothing you pretend i said, did i ever say. If i had actually said anything like that you would have brought the quote in but you didn't. This is exactly what i mean. You can't just make stuff up to suit you in a debate. As for it being "not widespread" among christianity, that is both incorrect and a peculiar train of reason. It is incorrect because catholics make up more or less 50% of all christians in the world. Some estimate it slightly above, some slightly below. Regardless of that, still half of the worlds christians embrace those concepts. To call it "not widespead" is simply wrong. In the world of christianity there are no more widespread concepts then those of catholicism. It is a peculiar train of reason because by saying that you create a condition with wich you can reject every negative or strange thing i bring about regarding christianity. Only catholicism has a majority, all the other sects are minorities. By your reasoning no matter what any of them do or say, i can't criticise any of them because each one of them doesn't represent the majority. If i am critical of them as a whole you will claim that each sect has a different view and thus i would be generalising. But if i go after the individual sects then they don't represent the majority. Sigh. If it looks like a troll, smells like a troll, eats like a troll, then it most likely is one. I thought you might've just been misguided, and perhaps you are in a far deeper case then I am able to contend with. The very quote is just above my summarization of it. If it's going to be about christianity, focusing entirely on things considered fundamental flaws (by other churches) within the roman catholic church is far and away your best option to cover all your bases and then saying that other churchs do not matter at all is icing on the cake. | ||
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Demon Hunter
New Zealand74 Posts
On May 14 2011 18:58 manicshock wrote:If it's going to be about christianity, focusing entirely on things considered fundamental flaws (by other churches) within the roman catholic church is far and away your best option to cover all your bases and then saying that other churchs do not matter at all is icing on the cake. Most other Churches originated from the Catholic Church. Protestant Christianity was born from a King who wanted to divorce his wife. Pentecostal Christianity (the majority of mainstream 'non-denominational' American Churches today) evolved from Protestant Christianity. At the end of the day they all largely subscribe to the same Bible, which has in it all its inherent and fundamental flaws, such as archaic views on issues such as homosexuality and the labeling of the practice as a 'sin'. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Sigh. If it looks like a troll, smells like a troll, eats like a troll, then it most likely is one. I thought you might've just been misguided, and perhaps you are in a far deeper case then I am able to contend with. The very quote is just above my summarization of it. If it's going to be about christianity, focusing entirely on things considered fundamental flaws (by other churches) within the roman catholic church is far and away your best option to cover all your bases and then saying that other churchs do not matter at all is icing on the cake. Do you not consider it strange how you once again refuse to actually debate? All you have done is instantly ignore everything i said and just say "You are a troll, i win" Go on and read all these posts and you will find that it is always others that suddenly do something like what you just did. Instantly killing any debate and only dumping a little post that doesn't adress anything and can be summed up as a last-ditch effort to avoid debate and just declare victory. If you do not wish do debate, do not pretend like you are intrested in doing so. You proclaiming victory from a deluded sense of rightiousness isn't really intresting to anyone but yourself. Here you debate or you don't say anything, it's simple as that. | ||
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FranzP
France270 Posts
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Johnnybb
Denmark486 Posts
Signed. | ||
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Eluadyl
Turkey364 Posts
On May 16 2011 23:07 DaBoxX wrote: Just when you thought the world couldn't get any worse.... Signed. Sorry but you're two days late mate  | ||
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Synystyr
United States1446 Posts
It's over! I also received an email saying that the bill has been stopped. This is great news everyone! Great job to everyone who signed and a huge thanks to the entire world for such an awesome response when a country is in need | ||
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bahl sofs tiil
United States233 Posts
On May 14 2011 19:17 Demon Hunter wrote: Most other Churches originated from the Catholic Church. Protestant Christianity was born from a King who wanted to divorce his wife. Pentecostal Christianity (the majority of mainstream 'non-denominational' American Churches today) evolved from Protestant Christianity. At the end of the day they all largely subscribe to the same Bible, which has in it all its inherent and fundamental flaws, such as archaic views on issues such as homosexuality and the labeling of the practice as a 'sin'. Protestantism. Church of England. Small correction. | ||
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lagmaster
United States374 Posts
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Iyerbeth
England2410 Posts
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lagmaster
United States374 Posts
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