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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 21:32:23
May 17 2011 21:31 GMT
#641
On May 18 2011 03:23 lagmaster wrote:
I don't feel as good anymore


Sorry.

My point was more to hope that people didn't get distracted by the win, and then forget that it's far from the end of the fight. It was still a great effort to prevent things getting worse.
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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
May 17 2011 21:57 GMT
#642
On May 12 2011 02:22 fortheGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
Is this a realy question? No it isn't. It's how he began his post about trying to weasle christianity out from this mess whilst christianity is central to what is happening in Uganda.


Show nested quote +
christianity is responsible for this anti-gay bill. You need to understand that just because you are religious doesn't mean you get to re-write reality to fit your religion. The people of Uganda are deeply christian and a large portion (84%) of the population is christian. This homophobia is the result of christian doctrine.


You make these assertions failing to understand a simple thing, religion changes over time. You wont find people being burned on the stake for their beliefs, not because the bible has drastically changed but because people understood that one cannot interpret christian beliefs in such a manner.

You can quote Levictus or the insane evangilists that are believed to be responsible for this mess but you'll find that a majority of christians have nothing against homosexuals.The christians in Uganda are doing something that is unacceptable by christian standards (you asked for a statement from the Vatican = http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/vatican-speaks-out-against-uganda-anti-gay-laws ). So blaming the existence of christianinity is like blaming guns for the existence crime.

Please stop arguing about this,as it is more important to concentrate on solving of this mess than on directing the blame on parties that have stated this is not what they believe in.


Then that's some major cognitive dissonance, seriously it baffles me how someone can claim to believe a book is the almighty word of God, and then disregard passages. What, was God just not doing his best when he condoned slavery, genocide, and condemnation of homosexuals?
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 06:19:00
May 18 2011 01:08 GMT
#643
I am disappointed it didn't pass, Uganda should have been the start of something more worldwide

User was warned for this post (troll bait)
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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
May 18 2011 03:49 GMT
#644
On May 18 2011 10:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I am disappointed it didn't pass, Uganda should have been the start of something more worldwide

You are a mentally deranged person, seek help.
TheGreatWhiteHope_
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
May 18 2011 03:59 GMT
#645
On May 18 2011 10:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I am disappointed it didn't pass, Uganda should have been the start of something more worldwide


10 bucks this guy has to fight off homosexual thoughts on a daily basis.
platorepublic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom344 Posts
May 18 2011 16:14 GMT
#646
Just wanna say moral relativity has its good points, but is usually only used as a tool to illustrate a point rather a useful philosophical argument:

http://www.seop.leeds.ac.uk/entries/moral-relativism/
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
January 01 2013 01:15 GMT
#647
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/dec/30/disgrace-papal-blessing-ugandan-homophobia

The Pope has blessed Uganda's newly passed "death to the gays" bill.

This is a disgrace to humanity.
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Calliopee
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark151 Posts
January 01 2013 01:20 GMT
#648
On January 01 2013 10:15 Praetorial wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/dec/30/disgrace-papal-blessing-ugandan-homophobia

The Pope has blessed Uganda's newly passed "death to the gays" bill.

This is a disgrace to humanity.


Did you actually bother reading the article AND the sources? Or you just trying to start another shitstorm based on terrible sensationalist journalism and little to no facts?
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
January 01 2013 01:29 GMT
#649
On January 01 2013 10:20 Calliopee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 10:15 Praetorial wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/dec/30/disgrace-papal-blessing-ugandan-homophobia

The Pope has blessed Uganda's newly passed "death to the gays" bill.

This is a disgrace to humanity.


Did you actually bother reading the article AND the sources? Or you just trying to start another shitstorm based on terrible sensationalist journalism and little to no facts?


Yes...
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Calliopee
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark151 Posts
January 01 2013 01:35 GMT
#650
I'll summarize then;

Law still hasn't been passed (and hopefully never will)

Kadaga (the crazy woman trying to get the law passed) recieved a blessing - not the bill itself


jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 01:38:07
January 01 2013 01:35 GMT
#651
On January 01 2013 10:20 Calliopee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 10:15 Praetorial wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/dec/30/disgrace-papal-blessing-ugandan-homophobia

The Pope has blessed Uganda's newly passed "death to the gays" bill.

This is a disgrace to humanity.


Did you actually bother reading the article AND the sources? Or you just trying to start another shitstorm based on terrible sensationalist journalism and little to no facts?

Let's not go too far here in calling the guardian "journalism."

The article derails out of homosexuality and into abortion, birth control, AIDS, and pedophilia. Reads like a pure anti-catholic hit piece in other words.
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Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
January 01 2013 09:14 GMT
#652
Is this Rebecca Kadaga a black woman ? She should have proposed the bill for Friday instead.
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Bahamut1337
Profile Joined July 2012
Ghana205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 18:34:09
January 01 2013 18:31 GMT
#653
On May 18 2011 12:49 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 10:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I am disappointed it didn't pass, Uganda should have been the start of something more worldwide

You are a mentally deranged person, seek help.


the vast majority of the world seems to agree with him.

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Only the dark blues nations have full rights for homosexual couple. And most of Sub Saharan African nations penalize it.
With excesses naturally in the Islamic World in Apartheid states such as Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Mauritania etc,

Hell even moderate Malaysia punishes homosexuality, and we are shocked when a nation like Uganda ( of all places) wanted to kill homosexuals?
EdaPoe
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands82 Posts
January 01 2013 20:27 GMT
#654
On May 19 2011 01:14 platorepublic wrote:
Just wanna say moral relativity has its good points, but is usually only used as a tool to illustrate a point rather a useful philosophical argument:

http://www.seop.leeds.ac.uk/entries/moral-relativism/



Assumming you are referring to evaluative relativism and not descriptive, besides the inconsistencies that pop up when you analyse it as a position, there are many practical issues that arise when one adopts it in all aspects of her/his life. For instance, assuming that you truly adhere to it, I wonder how you can cope with the belief that you cannot evaluate/criticize the values and acts of the Nazis or Pot's Cambodian massacre. Or for that matter, the fact that killing babies usually seems to nudge a sort of moral intuition that most people appear to possess, regardless of one's culture or age or sex and so forth (excl. cases where biological factors inhibit such thing such as psychopaths).

Anyway, I don't wish to derail this but forgive me since I am always filled with curiosity and somewhat amazement when I meet people that bring up evaluative relativism.
BallinWitStalin
Profile Joined July 2008
1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 18:19:35
December 20 2013 18:18 GMT
#655
Welp, they just passed a weakened version of the bill that punishes homosexuality with life imprisonment.

"KAMPALA, Uganda -- Ugandan lawmakers on Friday passed an anti-gay law that punishes "aggravated homosexuality" with life imprisonment."

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/uganda-passes-law-that-punishes-aggravated-homosexuality-with-life-imprisonment-1.1601969#ixzz2o2YsBXml


What a shithole country.

Should first world countries stop giving aid to Uganda as a result of this?

I'm not sure, myself. People in Uganda deserve aid, but when lawmakers do this with the general support of the population.....

At least gay people in Uganda will be able to get genuine refugee status in first world nations now with relative ease.
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 20 2013 18:28 GMT
#656
On December 21 2013 03:18 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Welp, they just passed a weakened version of the bill that punishes homosexuality with life imprisonment.

"KAMPALA, Uganda -- Ugandan lawmakers on Friday passed an anti-gay law that punishes "aggravated homosexuality" with life imprisonment."

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/uganda-passes-law-that-punishes-aggravated-homosexuality-with-life-imprisonment-1.1601969#ixzz2o2YsBXml


What a shithole country.

Should first world countries stop giving aid to Uganda as a result of this?

I'm not sure, myself. People in Uganda deserve aid, but when lawmakers do this with the general support of the population.....

At least gay people in Uganda will be able to get genuine refugee status in first world nations now with relative ease.

Stopping aid wouldn't help. It would only punish the gays (they would probably get blamed for it, for one thing) as well as not helping in the long run.

One thing that would help is educating people so that they don't have the same prejudice against gays, and then you can help with equality.
Aid includes things like helping with education, either through schools being built/teachers going there, or through other aid which means children aren't required to work from a young age. That means they can be educated and more understanding.

You can't punish the population when arguably one of the big issues is lack of understanding and education. You have to help them understand why we should give people rights.
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radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 19:07:04
December 20 2013 19:06 GMT
#657
On December 21 2013 03:28 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 03:18 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Welp, they just passed a weakened version of the bill that punishes homosexuality with life imprisonment.

"KAMPALA, Uganda -- Ugandan lawmakers on Friday passed an anti-gay law that punishes "aggravated homosexuality" with life imprisonment."

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/uganda-passes-law-that-punishes-aggravated-homosexuality-with-life-imprisonment-1.1601969#ixzz2o2YsBXml


What a shithole country.

Should first world countries stop giving aid to Uganda as a result of this?

I'm not sure, myself. People in Uganda deserve aid, but when lawmakers do this with the general support of the population.....

At least gay people in Uganda will be able to get genuine refugee status in first world nations now with relative ease.

Stopping aid wouldn't help. It would only punish the gays (they would probably get blamed for it, for one thing) as well as not helping in the long run.

One thing that would help is educating people so that they don't have the same prejudice against gays, and then you can help with equality.
Aid includes things like helping with education, either through schools being built/teachers going there, or through other aid which means children aren't required to work from a young age. That means they can be educated and more understanding.

You can't punish the population when arguably one of the big issues is lack of understanding and education. You have to help them understand why we should give people rights.


According to the OP, wasn't stopping aid from the West one of the main reasons why the President was so reluctant to pass the initial bill?

I'm not entirely sure what 'aggravated homosexuality' means, but if its jailing people for being homosexual, then life imprisonment really isn't much of an improvement over capital punishment, except there's a chance that the law might be reversed. What a sad day. Another example of why how easily religion can twist people's thoughts in evil ways (don't want to start a religious debate, but it seems relevant to point out where most of this hatred stems from).
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
December 20 2013 19:29 GMT
#658
I did not read the entire thread but this immediately remembers I saw on this matter on TV : http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html It's easy to find other sources with google if you want.

I don't know if it has been posted and did not have the will to read the 33 pages before. But it seems those laws are strongly supported by rich American evangelists.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
December 20 2013 19:49 GMT
#659
Inb4 "It's their culture/country. It's okay for them to be hateful". I hate that fucking argument so much.
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 20:15:51
December 20 2013 20:15 GMT
#660
On December 21 2013 04:06 radscorpion9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 03:28 Lonyo wrote:
On December 21 2013 03:18 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Welp, they just passed a weakened version of the bill that punishes homosexuality with life imprisonment.

"KAMPALA, Uganda -- Ugandan lawmakers on Friday passed an anti-gay law that punishes "aggravated homosexuality" with life imprisonment."

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/uganda-passes-law-that-punishes-aggravated-homosexuality-with-life-imprisonment-1.1601969#ixzz2o2YsBXml


What a shithole country.

Should first world countries stop giving aid to Uganda as a result of this?

I'm not sure, myself. People in Uganda deserve aid, but when lawmakers do this with the general support of the population.....

At least gay people in Uganda will be able to get genuine refugee status in first world nations now with relative ease.

Stopping aid wouldn't help. It would only punish the gays (they would probably get blamed for it, for one thing) as well as not helping in the long run.

One thing that would help is educating people so that they don't have the same prejudice against gays, and then you can help with equality.
Aid includes things like helping with education, either through schools being built/teachers going there, or through other aid which means children aren't required to work from a young age. That means they can be educated and more understanding.

You can't punish the population when arguably one of the big issues is lack of understanding and education. You have to help them understand why we should give people rights.


According to the OP, wasn't stopping aid from the West one of the main reasons why the President was so reluctant to pass the initial bill?

I'm not entirely sure what 'aggravated homosexuality' means, but if its jailing people for being homosexual, then life imprisonment really isn't much of an improvement over capital punishment, except there's a chance that the law might be reversed. What a sad day. Another example of why how easily religion can twist people's thoughts in evil ways (don't want to start a religious debate, but it seems relevant to point out where most of this hatred stems from).

But they've passed the bill now. Unless you used the pressure to get them to repeal it, which probably would only be a short term solution, where really you need a longer term one.
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