EPTDo RTS games make you smarter? - Page 3
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Ryze
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GreEny K
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universalwill
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DarthXX
Australia998 Posts
On April 08 2011 09:58 DTK-m2 wrote: Hahaha, thank you for these two successive posts, guys. But yeah, this seems to be a common sentiment. Haha I had opened the thread but there was only 3 responses in it, by the time I actually wrote a response a couple minutes later it was already on second page >< | ||
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Steel
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Zergneedsfood
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SolidZeal
United States393 Posts
Here's my reasoning: In my opinion, in order for something to make you smarter It has to be presenting you with new information or a new way to understand old information that you didn't understand before. You could argue that SC does develop a strategical mind for things, especially if you start playing young...but for most people, not enough to make the claim that you are smarter from it. The strategy you are learning is about how to move your game pieces on the board in such a way that you beat your opponent. Mostly what you can "learn" from this game is new ideas for how to move those pieces. Unless you realize that a lot of the strategical thinking that you utilize in the game can be applied elsewhere, then you've learned a good tool for life. In my opinion, the more successful players in starcraft already had a strong grasp of strategy, learned from a variety other games played before this one. Games do hold some bearing on reality, as proven by the very successful use of game theory on global economics, but anyway... What starcraft does do for you: exercises your mind. You are not wasting time on starcraft as much as you would be watching television, because you are forced to be responsive/reactive. | ||
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kurse3
Australia19 Posts
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
I'll copy-paste a reply from another, relevant thread posted earlier today (it had an article in it, so ignore that part XD): On April 08 2011 06:42 Zeke50100 wrote: Video games in general are underestimated in their effectiveness when it comes to stimulating mental activity and higher-level thinking processes, with genres like RTSes being thrown in with things like FPSes (not saying FPSes do not require thinking; it's just that too many people believe shooters don't stimulate the brain at all, and believe all other types of games are the same). It sort of saddens me when people think games in general are mindless activities that don't improve anything for a person, and saddens me even more when people actually have to go through studies in order to show people something that really should be common sense. Although the biased media nowadays will never really give articles like this the light they really need to change anything. Meh. It's good to know people try ^_^ | ||
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Swede
New Zealand853 Posts
What starcraft does do for you: exercises your mind. You are not wasting time on starcraft as much as you would be watching television, because you are forced to be responsive/reactive. That could be argued either way. Which is better for the mind: Playing Nexus Wars on SC2 or watching a documentary on something? Or: Playing SC2 at a high level on ladder or watching reality TV? Whether SC2 is beneficial or not really comes down to the way you use it. | ||
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Bibdy
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
On April 08 2011 08:52 kurse3 wrote: I have a short, but very open ended question to ask, which will hopefully produce a good discussion. I use the term 'smart' because it is ambiguous, and I want to see how people interpret my question. Do RTS games make you smarter? I'm tending to think they do in a variety of ways, however I'm hoping that it doesn't just make you smarter at RTS games, but in general. Let's use Starcraft 2. The examples in parentheses are just examples. - Decision making (Will the decision to attack/back off/work on macro be worth it?) - Forward thinking (Based on 'x' set of circumstances what do I need to prepare for?) - Deductive reasoning (Based on the information that I have attained, can I deduce that he will be going for 'x' build?.) - Inductive reasoning (I've just scouted 4 Warpgates, I should expect a 4gate push very soon.) I don't want to add anymore. I would rather you interpret what I asked for yourself. The points you listed are brain exercises, they stimulate brain activity. They don't make you 'smarter'. 2c | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
On April 08 2011 08:57 nttea wrote: Nah, I'm as stupid as ever same here | ||
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TheKanAry
United States149 Posts
@ Ryze i think that was UC Berkeley. | ||
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chaopow
United States556 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
On April 08 2011 09:18 CurLy[] wrote: It promotes being more efficient and doing things faster for damn sure ^^ Gogo multitasking too. I notice myself when I cook doing things a lot faster xD Yes! My scrambled eggs + bacon build is very refined. I got great spatula micro and multitask on the toast + coffee. hahaha | ||
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kataa
United Kingdom384 Posts
On April 08 2011 08:52 kurse3 wrote: - Inductive reasoning (I've just scouted 4 Warpgates, I should expect a 4gate push very soon.) That's not inductive reasoning, that's deductive. You're reasoning from a single fact (4 Warp gates) to another logical fact (4 Warp Gate's = 4 Warp gate push at 6:00) (pedantic philosophy major note) Though SC2 does certainly teach inductive reasoning. A great example was Zerg on Stepps of War. "The last twenty times I played Zerg on Stepps they said "Oh not this map" and allin'd me - therefor I should scout for an early allin on this map." | ||
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MagickMan
Australia498 Posts
however RTS is just simply alot more appealing to a smarter person than a game like runescape where it is just mindless repetitive nonsense. edit: Some grammar. | ||
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
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VapouR.
United Kingdom14 Posts
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