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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-14 20:42:06
November 14 2014 20:41 GMT
#5201
IMPORTANT: BAIJI IS COMPLETELY LIBERATED

Iraqi officials say their forces have driven out Islamic State (IS) fighters from the oil refinery town of Baiji, 200km (130 miles) north of Baghdad.

Gen Abdul-Wahab al-Saadi told Iraqi state TV that the town "had been completely liberated".

There are still reports of heavy fighting around the oil refinery, which is Iraq's largest.

IS seized Baiji in June during a lightning advance through northern Iraq and laid siege to the refinery.

The group, which also controls large parts of northern Syria, has been the target of a US-led military campaign since August.

src
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
November 15 2014 00:52 GMT
#5202
On November 14 2014 16:22 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Fiat currency too modern and therefore absolutely haram . They have to do things like the ancients with gold and silver. No other way in Daesh land.

LOL They even put the Islamic year on the coins. Those numbers say 1436, which is the current year of the Islamic calendar.

I'm actually quite interested in how and where these coins will be minted and where the raw materials will come from. Its actually a really logical choice, their foreign backers can pay them in gold and no (or less) worries about inflation or worthless currency.

The Arab Spring has truly brought light and democracy to this part of the world:

[image loading]

Oh how horrible their lives must have been 4-5 years ago.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18355 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-15 01:23:43
November 15 2014 01:07 GMT
#5203
On November 15 2014 09:52 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2014 16:22 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Fiat currency too modern and therefore absolutely haram . They have to do things like the ancients with gold and silver. No other way in Daesh land.

LOL They even put the Islamic year on the coins. Those numbers say 1436, which is the current year of the Islamic calendar.

I'm actually quite interested in how and where these coins will be minted and where the raw materials will come from. Its actually a really logical choice, their foreign backers can pay them in gold and no (or less) worries about inflation or worthless currency.

The Arab Spring has truly brought light and democracy to this part of the world:

[image loading]

Oh how horrible their lives must have been 4-5 years ago.

Really? How the hell is shipping trucks of gold into a warzone a clever option when your alternative is an electronic money transfer between a bank in Switzerland and one in Liechtenstein (picked two countries with bank secrecy out of a hat. No offense to the Swiss or Liechtensteinians). I am fairly certain that shipping trucks of gold is not what some fancy oil sheik with more money than brains is doing.

EDIT: I also have no clue how much you're supposed to be able to buy with a dinar, but a solid gold coin of even a small size is going to be worth 100s of dollars, if not thousands (lets say a coin is about the size of a teaspoon, or about 5 ml, which assuming 12 karat gold, is just slightly under 50g of (pure) gold. Current market price for 50 grams of gold is slightly over $1900.

Not exactly a workable amount if you're going to buy bread. It also means that their dirham to dinari is completely out of whack if they use silver in their dirhams; needing about 2000 dirham to 1 dinar (assuming pure silver and coins the same size for 1 dirham as for 1 dinar), which is clearly not very workable in amounts of 1 and 5 dinar coins.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
November 15 2014 01:20 GMT
#5204
On November 15 2014 10:07 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2014 09:52 zeo wrote:
On November 14 2014 16:22 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Fiat currency too modern and therefore absolutely haram . They have to do things like the ancients with gold and silver. No other way in Daesh land.

LOL They even put the Islamic year on the coins. Those numbers say 1436, which is the current year of the Islamic calendar.

I'm actually quite interested in how and where these coins will be minted and where the raw materials will come from. Its actually a really logical choice, their foreign backers can pay them in gold and no (or less) worries about inflation or worthless currency.

The Arab Spring has truly brought light and democracy to this part of the world:

[image loading]

Oh how horrible their lives must have been 4-5 years ago.

Really? How the hell is shipping trucks of gold into a warzone a clever option when your alternative is an electronic money transfer between a bank in Switzerland and one in Liechtenstein (picked two countries with bank secrecy out of a hat. No offense to the Swiss or Liechtensteinians). I am fairly certain that shipping trucks of gold is not what some fancy oil sheik with more money than brains is doing.

I meant money for internal use, Maybe someone with more knowledge in economy could go more in-depth with just how a banking system in ISIS territory is going to work. I personally think any currency other than gold/silver would tank... hard.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 15 2014 02:33 GMT
#5205
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 16 2014 01:32 GMT
#5206




"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
pls no ty
Profile Joined September 2014
86 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 03:28:47
November 16 2014 03:22 GMT
#5207
Is this guy from ISIS or Al-Qaeda? Seems like Al-Qaeda, if so, i really wonder what he is doing right now, operating with Assad?

Strange thing that West should focus on, whenever i see a Turkish Dutch / German / British / French, i can easily see that he is way more religious than Turks in Turkey, taking his status based on age, economy and education. Ive never checked what the hell are the turks doing outside of the country, only thing i know from my relatives in Germany, they are stuck in 2 cultures, not Turkish, not German. (todays generation is morelike German though)

Take a guy from Turkey, capable of speaking at least 2-3 langs, probably finished studies and has a "profession" about something, he would never be like this guy in the vid. Ive been in every part of Turkey except Turkish Kurdistan, spent min a month in every, and i have like +2k friends from all around the State and i can say only 5-6 are islamists. And actually those were from Gulen Cemaat, which is also called Parallel Israel State within Turkey.

If we have members from Germany or Netherlands who have Turkish friends, would you please enlighten me about this strange religious inclination of origin Turk citizens? If this guy was in my any school, we would be all the time staring at him, i would think that he is arabic or something, look at his beard, wtf. Is there a some sort of strange practice of Islam in Europe, what triggers them to be jihadist?
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 16 2014 09:41 GMT
#5208
Do you ever get tired of purely posting Turkish apologia? There's literally nothing you post aside from it. It's ceaseless.
sgtnoobkilla
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia249 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 10:57:57
November 16 2014 10:51 GMT
#5209
US army veteran Peter Kassig 'murdered by Isil'

Soldier-turned-aid worker appears to be fifth Westerner to be murdered by violent extremists of Isil despite becoming a Muslim during his year in captivity

Islamic State fighters have issued a new video apparently showing the murder of US hostage Peter Kassig and threatening “slaughter” on Western streets.

The 15-minute long grisly video shows the horrific beheading a group of Syrian military prisoners and then the decapitated head of Mr Kassig at the feet of a masked man.
The man, who appears to be the same militant known as Jihadi John who has appeared in other beheading videos, says: "This is Peter Edward Kassig, a US citizen."

He also denounces David Cameron as a puppet of the United States president:
He says: “To Obama, the dog of Rome. Today we are slaughtering the soldiers of Bashar and tomorrow we will be slaughtering your soldiers and with Allah’s permission we will break this final and last crusade and the Islamic State will soon, like your puppet David Cameron said, begin to slaughter your people on your streets.”

The chilling video, titled 'Although the disbelievers dislike it', shows the brutal murders of around 16 Syrian soldiers in graphic detail.

Mr Kassig's death would be the fifth beheading of a Westerner apparently carried out by violent extremists of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil).

.....

He was taken hostage in October last year during a trip to deliver food and medical supplies to Deir Ezzour in eastern Syria

.....

Source



Kassig was beheaded alongside a group of captured SAA officers and pilots in the same video (not gonna link it) as well.
Don't play with your food unless it plays with you first.
pls no ty
Profile Joined September 2014
86 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 17:01:03
November 16 2014 16:57 GMT
#5210
On November 16 2014 18:41 koreasilver wrote:
Do you ever get tired of purely posting Turkish apologia? There's literally nothing you post aside from it. It's ceaseless.


No, im not tired at all. And i believe my efforts corrected many wrong thinkings about Turkey, at least, no harm trying. And the post you replied was not a defence, bro. Nearly 10-15 millions of Turks are living in Europe, and one can easily notice their religious lifestyle differs from ours. Some of these people are now in syria, CAUSING A CIWIL WAR. There must be a missing link, and i want to know what and why. If you are from Eu, you should also investigate this, they are living next to you, not me. We need to learn before ISIS v2.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
November 16 2014 17:04 GMT
#5211
On November 17 2014 01:57 pls no ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2014 18:41 koreasilver wrote:
Do you ever get tired of purely posting Turkish apologia? There's literally nothing you post aside from it. It's ceaseless.


No, im not tired at all. And i believe my efforts corrected many wrong thinkings about Turkey, at least, no harm trying. And the post you replied was not a defence, bro. Nearly 10-15 millions of Turks are living in Europe, and one can easily notice their religious lifestyle differs from ours. Some of these people are now in syria, CAUSING A CIWIL WAR. There must be a missing link, and i want to know what and why. If you are from Eu, you should also investigate this, they are living next to you, not me. We need to learn before ISIS v2.



I'm sure that are many turks living next to you that joined ISIS and would support such ideologies.
Yes im
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 16 2014 17:34 GMT
#5212


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
pls no ty
Profile Joined September 2014
86 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 22:54:50
November 16 2014 21:41 GMT
#5213
On November 17 2014 02:04 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2014 01:57 pls no ty wrote:
On November 16 2014 18:41 koreasilver wrote:
Do you ever get tired of purely posting Turkish apologia? There's literally nothing you post aside from it. It's ceaseless.


No, im not tired at all. And i believe my efforts corrected many wrong thinkings about Turkey, at least, no harm trying. And the post you replied was not a defence, bro. Nearly 10-15 millions of Turks are living in Europe, and one can easily notice their religious lifestyle differs from ours. Some of these people are now in syria, CAUSING A CIWIL WAR. There must be a missing link, and i want to know what and why. If you are from Eu, you should also investigate this, they are living next to you, not me. We need to learn before ISIS v2.



I'm sure that are many turks living next to you that joined ISIS and would support such ideologies.


Sorry but Turkey is not Portugal. You would give everything to live in the district where i am at. xD Summon yourself next time when you have better to say.

Here some more propaganda and evil turks etc:



And things happening in Iran, worth looking:

http://www.aawsat.net/2014/11/article55338562

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30075807

http://rt.com/business/205863-iran-gold-plant-economy/

http://www.smh.com.au/world/iraqi-forces-advance-in-bid-for-baiji-refinery-20141113-11liy8.html

User was temp banned for this post.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 23:04:31
November 16 2014 23:02 GMT
#5214
On November 17 2014 06:41 pls no ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2014 02:04 ImFromPortugal wrote:
On November 17 2014 01:57 pls no ty wrote:
On November 16 2014 18:41 koreasilver wrote:
Do you ever get tired of purely posting Turkish apologia? There's literally nothing you post aside from it. It's ceaseless.


No, im not tired at all. And i believe my efforts corrected many wrong thinkings about Turkey, at least, no harm trying. And the post you replied was not a defence, bro. Nearly 10-15 millions of Turks are living in Europe, and one can easily notice their religious lifestyle differs from ours. Some of these people are now in syria, CAUSING A CIWIL WAR. There must be a missing link, and i want to know what and why. If you are from Eu, you should also investigate this, they are living next to you, not me. We need to learn before ISIS v2.



I'm sure that are many turks living next to you that joined ISIS and would support such ideologies.


Sorry but Turkey is not Portugal. You would give everything to live in the district where i am at. xD Summon yourself next time when you have better to say.

Here some more propaganda and evil turks etc:

http://youtu.be/RfHwjSP007Q

And things happening in Iran, worth looking:

http://www.aawsat.net/2014/11/article55338562

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30075807

http://rt.com/business/205863-iran-gold-plant-economy/

http://www.smh.com.au/world/iraqi-forces-advance-in-bid-for-baiji-refinery-20141113-11liy8.html



I like to live in Portugal bro.. we don't have problems with extremists and welcome everyone you should try the same. Come here for vacations you will love it, the lovely people and the sunny beaches and no isis crossing or borders to kill innocent people
Yes im
pls no ty
Profile Joined September 2014
86 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-16 23:28:21
November 16 2014 23:23 GMT
#5215
Well, im also in an isolated place where you can see no muslims or religious people. My dad once went to portugal as a well known turkish journalist, i know considerably ok about there and its horrifying problems, i d pick Spain instead for a vacation yet, i dont like beaches, and i dont like summer neither.. :D

bonus about where i live: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=turkey - antalya - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=istanbul levent

However,

ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
November 16 2014 23:41 GMT
#5216
On November 17 2014 08:23 pls no ty wrote:
Well, im also in an isolated place where you can see no muslims or religious people. My dad once went to portugal as a well known turkish journalist, i know considerably ok about there and its horrifying problems, i d pick Spain instead for a vacation yet, i dont like beaches, and i dont like summer neither.. :D

bonus about where i live: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=turkey - antalya - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=istanbul levent

However,

https://twitter.com/kassigfamily/status/534104062271451136



"i know considerably ok about there and its horrifying problems,"

i'm curious.. what kind of horrifying problems? there are isis extremists using our country as a base that i didn't knew about ?D:
Yes im
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
November 16 2014 23:52 GMT
#5217
Enough. Back on topic please.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-18 03:42:41
November 18 2014 02:44 GMT
#5218
Australian ISIS jihadis are "too fat to fight"

A Muslim community leader said that two of four Sydney brothers who recently left to join the Islamic State terror group are obese and doubts that they will be allowed to join the terror group on the battlefield.

The brothers, aged 17, 23, 25, and 28, tricked their mother into thinking they had won a free trip to Thailand, but instead traveled to Syria to fight alongside the extremist group.

Dr. Jamal Rifi, a family friend and leader in the Australian Muslim community, told 2UE news that he hopes that the physical condition of two of the brothers will disqualify them from combat and will prompt them to return home.

“We are hoping the fact that two of them they are quite obese, they are not good foot soldiers. They are over 140 kilograms and people who are going to see them are going to realize (and ask) ‘what are we going to do with them? Are they going to eat all the food and can’t even run on the field?'” he told the Australian radio station in a Monday interview.

src
==========================================================================================

Baath Brigade militants have entered Raqqa to fight ISIS




EDIT: LOL just saw zatic's comment so I put this last part in a spoiler.

+ Show Spoiler +

Now pls no ty is not by any means a bad guy, but that ban's timing is ironic because just a couple hours ago I dealt with the most screwed up person straight from Turkey I've come across and she did a pretty terrible thing to me IRL which I won't get into details of because it's not necessarily something to be posting about due to its seriousness.

But a much less prominent wrong she did (and one I guess I can post), instead of fixing right answers marked wrong she admitted to, she instead took points off because in her words, "I see it fit"... screwing me twice make it right, I guess? I TA a class too, and I'd probably lose sleep if I were to do either of those things like a complete asshole.

That terrible cunt makes pls no ty look like an angel by any standard. He's not representative of the average Turk judging from what too many Turks tell me about the folks in the villages, or any city not Istanbul. He's a lot more mannered and civil than them.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 18 2014 16:35 GMT
#5219


Peshmerga in Kobane watching Airstrikes.


Meanwhile in Latakia:



DAMASCUS, Syria — Syrian rebels declared their control over the city of Nawa in the western countryside of Daraa — 85 kilometers (53 miles) south of Damascus and only 10 kilometers (6.2 miles) from the border with Israel — on Nov. 9, after battles began Nov. 1 against the regime’s forces in the region. The fighting ended with the “liberation” of areas formerly controlled by the Syrian army, taken during the “Demolition of the Wall,” a rebel operation that brought down the army’s first line of defense of the capital against attack from the south.

Rebel fighters were able to break the regime siege of the town of al-Shaykh Maskin, near Daraa, on Nov. 6. They penetrated the town through battles that led to the fall of Brigade 82, one of the Syrian army’s largest military bases. Rebels then broke into the town and opened the road between al-Shaykh Maskin and the city of Nawa on Nov. 6. This was how rebel fighters were able to cut the supply routes of the Syrian army and lay siege to its positions, which accelerated their total control over the area.

The fall of the area to the rebels closed the door on the Syrian army in the northern triangle of the Hauran plain, which includes the city of Nawa, al-Shaykh Maskin and Sheikh Saad, which fell to the rebels on July 15. This triangle constituted a military safe zone for the Syrian army in the south and the center from which to launch operations in the region.

A military source in the Syrian army, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told Al-Monitor, “The army's control over the past few months was limited to the roads leading to the region through agricultural and rugged areas, while militants controlled the main roads to these villages.” The source said, “The areas controlled by the Syrian army and the opposition-controlled regions overlap, which explains the ongoing confrontations on the frontlines there. The fall of these regions had a negative impact on the old road between Damascus and Daraa as militants took full control of Nawa, al-Shaykh Maskin and Brigade 112, to put pressure on the main road and cut off supplies to the Syrian army in Daraa.”


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 18 2014 22:21 GMT
#5220


Video purportedly showing Islamic Front destroying building occupied by Pro-Govt militia.
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