Iraq & Syrian Civil Wars - Page 134

On September 09 2013 03:45 nunez wrote:


say what now?

On September 09 2013 03:49 BioNova wrote:


It's very complicated, not a simple formula. Really?

In a move to intensify its defense near the Syrian border, Turkey has deployed additional troops and more weapons to the country’s southeast. Earlier this week, Turkey sent reinforcement to the south amid Washington’s calls for a military strike on Syria.

The Turkish military dispatched additional units to Suruc, located in the southern province of Sanlıurfa, on Sunday, Today's Zaman reported. According to the report, semi-trailer trucks loaded with armored vehicles and tanks were sent midday from a command post in the southeastern city of Gaziantep.

Local newspaper Hurriyet also reported on Sunday that Turkish fighter jets conducted a patrol flight over the Syrian border due to “increased activity” in the area.

Automated firing units using Stinger missiles for very short range air defenses have been set up on top of a high hill on the Syrian border town of Yayladagi in Hatay province, Reuters reported, citing a witness who said that the defense system's radar was active.

Over the past week, Turkey also moved convoys of military vehicles carrying equipment and personnel between its bases near the southeastern border.

On September 09 2013 02:43 SkelA wrote:


What does that have to do with the thing i said? Its common knowledge that albanians that were fighting in kosovo/macedonia were backed by usa as the rebels in syria.

The "albanophobia" as you state its justified because you dont live here to know whats happening here. Every week there is incidents by albanians that either stab kids, pillage churches in their "teritory" or just massacre boys on the day before easter.

The wiki post is biased and just records the incidents towards albanians, now multiply that by x20 and you will realise why those happen.

Well this was really off topic but whenever i see someone defends the "peaceful" albanians something just boils inside my soul.

On September 09 2013 05:13 LegalLord wrote:

Rule of thumb for politics that I've seen is:
Population that really cares > lobbyists > population that doesn't really care.

Seems like Americans are strongly against intervention.


Integration.

On September 09 2013 03:15 oneofthem wrote:
well, on the question of whether chain of command is an excuse, that would probably depend on international law traditions, of which i don't know much lol, so i can't comment.

the situation though is not being resolved through a international criminal court system, as some have argued it should be.
http://crookedtimber.org/2013/09/07/assad-and-the-icc/

it's clear that U.S.'s interest in syria and its neighbors is largely motivated by oil, but that does not mean this particular incident with chemical weapons is purely the operation of oil grab logic. it might be that their reasons are more multiple goals oriented, rather than simply 'grab dat oil'

On September 09 2013 06:35 Rassy wrote:


Syria doesnt have that much oil and with the scale oil boom in the usa the usa doesnt need the oil that badly annymore.
There is more to this then just oil.

Its weird to read about sunite extremists and moderate shiites on the internet btw.
The sunites are alot more moderate then the shiites in general.
This propaganda machine is thriving on the complete lack of knowledge people have these days.

I do believe the story of the poster from macedonia btw,that the nato supported albanians, i just dont think they did that because they where given a few million dollars from albanian rich familys.

Annyway:what do people here expect will happen?
I myself am now quiet positive that assad will stay in power for at least the remaining part of 2013.
Annyone thinking this 3 day strike (if it will happen wich i doubt) will have anny significant effect in changing the balance of forces?

On September 09 2013 06:50 SupplyBlockedTV wrote:


Never said thats the only reason. But believe it or not, running as president in america costs more then any of you will probably see together in your life, many of the big figures get funded by individuals outside the US. Politics arnt as innocent and fair as you think it is, and this may look like its from a Hollywood movie, but its probably closer to the truth then the story of humanitarian intervention.

On September 09 2013 06:45 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Come on guys the US bombed Serbia because it was embarrassing as hell for Western Europe to have Kosovars massacring Serbs in ambushes and terrorist attacks and Serbs massacring Kosovars in mass shootings. Especially after the Bosnia mess took so long to end and Europe was pretty inactive about it at first. Behind closed doors Western Europe basically begged the US to have NATO intervene to end the whole thing as quickly as possible. There was a lot of mockery of Europe that they couldn't prevent ethnic cleansing in their own back yard and perceived pressure on European governments to do *something* about it.

As the collapse of Yugoslavia loomed, the Croatian and Albanian lobbies continued their campaign: Defense & Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy, Mar 31, 1993 issue, reported as much as $50 million was larded around Capitol Hill in a two-year period which saw the defeat of George Bush and led to Bob Dole's control of the Republican party:

The United States Congress, still reeling from a series of financial scandals involving representatives and senators, is now bracing for a new problem: the massive financial "contributions" which have been made to election funds of politicians by Croatian sources over the past two to three years. One Congressional investigator told Defense & Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy that the donations and expenditures on Washington lobbying by the Croatians over the past two years "could well exceed $50-million."

On September 09 2013 07:18 Derez wrote:

An assertion for which you have offered 0 proof. You can't have a debate on the basis of 'someone told me but I can't tell you who' and it's highly off topic in the first place. The amount of conspiracy posts in this thread is insane.

On September 09 2013 07:30 Zeo wrote:
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/benworks/buying.html

As the collapse of Yugoslavia loomed, the Croatian and Albanian lobbies continued their campaign: Defense & Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy, Mar 31, 1993 issue, reported as much as $50 million was larded around Capitol Hill in a two-year period which saw the defeat of George Bush and led to Bob Dole's control of the Republican party:

The United States Congress, still reeling from a series of financial scandals involving representatives and senators, is now bracing for a new problem: the massive financial "contributions" which have been made to election funds of politicians by Croatian sources over the past two to three years. One Congressional investigator told Defense & Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy that the donations and expenditures on Washington lobbying by the Croatians over the past two years "could well exceed $50-million."