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On March 15 2011 03:59 matjlav wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:56 sc4k wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 matjlav wrote:On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote:
Can't believe you guys are saying that this kid took it too far. Fuck that, he just picked up the little shitbag and dumped him. Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
What happened in that video can be summed up by 3 words:
badass fucking justice HELL YEAH, none of the good people in society ever did stupid shit while they were kids. wtf is up with all of these people who have death wishes on kids being kids? I don't have death wishes on kids being kids, I have the wish to see badass fucking street justice doled out to all bullies. Casey basically just spinning piledrived this little faggot douchebag fuckface child. Good for him, he went Mike Haggar on his scrawny ass. All I feel about this video is justice justice justice. Badass fucking street justice. okay
whoa bro, broken neck doesn't mean you're dead, quit hating
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That kid deserved it 100%. Casey's a hero
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On March 15 2011 04:00 Almin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:57 carloselcoco wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
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I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!
I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.
Are you fucking serious? How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt. The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages.
He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete. My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully) I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way. LOL, did you really have time to asses the "risk percentages" of your fights? In a fight you barely have time, if any to asses all your possibilities. You seriously talk like you have never been in a serious situation and as if you valued life the same way you play again. "Risk percentage" That is just video game talking... No, I'm just not a barbaric monkey like you. I actually think when I'm in fights *Gasp* At your first point, unless you are extremely slow, you have plenty of time to think about what to do in a fight, unless you're one of those kids that just charges at a person throwing fists around to no avail..
I seriously wonder if you think when you write...
Doesn't seem like it.
Have you heard of the fight or flight reaction?
In a situation like Casey was in, you either fight or get the hell away as fast as you can depending on the situation. If he had ran away, he would have three guys chasing him to kick his ass. Fighting in this case was his best option as he knocked out one of them and made the numbers 2-1 while inflicting scare on the other two guys. It is human nature to fight or run away depending on the situation. No one ever stops to asses the situation ans see if he can rationally talk the aggressors to calm down and stop. You sir, have clearly never been in tight situation. BTW, you can stop calling me names (barbaric monkey), specially after you feel sympathy towards the bully kid.
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To the folks saying Casey should have just punched/kicked/attempted a stand-up fight:
I don't think Casey wanted to fight.
I think he wanted it (the violence/teasing) to stop. Period. He doesn't look like a kid that took karate or boxing and knows how to fight. I don't know him at all, but judging from his body language (backed against the wall, very hesitant with movements) he was not the type of person who was brought up to glorify violence. I'm pretty sure if Casey started trying to throw punches, he would have gotten his ass stomped by the big skinny kid at the end. The bullies wanted a stand-up fight where they out numbered and out classed the victim.
All in all, Casey is lucky he was big enough to end the fight this quickly. If the size of the kids was traded off ( the bullies were bigger than the bullied) and Casey was half the size of his attacker, he would be praised for standing up. Just because he is big and able to slam people doesn't mean he wants to. You can tell by his face and body language that right after he slammed the kid and realized what COULD have happened, he backed off once he saw the other kids weren't gonna immediately retaliate. (Thanks to the awkward girl stepping in to secure his retreat).
Two cents from TLer that was bullied constantly as a kid because I was an easy target.
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Shouldve dropped him on the corner of that wooden thing. That wouldve taught him a lesson. You dont fuck with people for no reason. If the kid really snapped hed have stomped him to death.
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On March 15 2011 04:04 RoosterSamurai wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 04:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 15 2011 04:00 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:57 carloselcoco wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:
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He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work.
Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages.
He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete. My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully) I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way. LOL, did you really have time to asses the "risk percentages" of your fights? In a fight you barely have time, if any to asses all your possibilities. You seriously talk like you have never been in a serious situation and as if you valued life the same way you play again. "Risk percentage" That is just video game talking... No, I'm just not a barbaric monkey like you. I actually think when I'm in fights *Gasp* At your first point, unless you are extremely slow, you have plenty of time to think about what to do in a fight, unless you're one of those kids that just charges at a person throwing fists around to no avail.. uh lashing out at people calling them barbaric monkeys doesn't really help you out here. we're talking about a little kid who snapped, it was obviously a really emotional moment. of course adults react differently and it depends on the situation. clearly UFC fighters are thinking when they fight and such. I'm not sure what you think fights are like, but 99.5% of street fights are not boxing matches like rocky balboa vs tommy gunn.... They wind up on the ground after about 3 seconds, and are grappling until someone breaks them up. Except when someone is getting mugged, when 6 or 7 guys will jump them and beat the hell out of them before taking their wallet and running off. I don't believe I've ever heard of a non-sparring match that didn't simply go down into a wrestling match.
That's exactly the sort of point I'm making. Fights are very rarely these slow strategic street fighter like brawls. That's why I think it's ridiculous that people are saying "Why didn't this kid think or consider the blablabla"
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Some MMA gym in Aus (I assume that's the accent?) should give him a free lifetime pass to train with them until he wins the world heavyweight championship. Then becomes mayor of a town and has to rescue his daughter from a gang by taking his shirt off and going on a piledriving spree through the mean streets. Streets which are of rage.
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I dont understand you people that think its wrong what the big kid did to the smaller one . It doesnt matter about size, the small kid was assaulting him , and the large one acted in self defense which isnt wrong or against the law . The fact is that he stood up for himself and got wrongly punished for what was going on, it should of been ended long ago by the school . Since they didnt take care of it it was just the time where eh stood up for himself, and the kid payed for it. All there is to it, he deserved it , it was justified , the end .
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What's really needed is a gif with the wobble knees, wobble wobble wobble
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On March 15 2011 04:02 Almin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:58 TOCHMY wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
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I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!
I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.
Are you fucking serious? How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt. The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages. He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete. My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully) I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way. Sure, he's old enough. But this kid haven't been in many fights. Look at him, he got pissed, he snapped, probably didn't think about consequences, he probably didn't think at all. As many have said; He didn't think "body slamming him to the ground will probably kill him, so I should just punch him" he just defended himself, acted naturally, based on instinct. My problem is everyone on this thread is like "YEAH GO CASEY, THAT KID GOT WHAT HE DESERVED" He didn't deserve almost getting severely hurt/almost dieing, he deserved a beatdown. If he got beatdown by Casey, they wouldn't have bullied him anymore, guaranteed, but sometimes it usually takes 1 more random fight after the first one, to make sure they don't bully him again.
Your argument is nothing more than self righteous. You're trying to tell us what YOU think he deserved exactly. Who are you to decide? By what arbitrary measure are you basing this on? At what point does what the kid deserve cross the threshold from 'a beatdown' to 'a bodyslam'?
You're arguing for the sake of arguing, or just arguing because you think you have a greater sense of justice than others. News flash, you aren't on a god of morality who gets to decide what is the proper punishment for certain actions.
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Is this a "special school"? Why would that little kid ever pick a fight with Casey..lol.
100% deserves it. Go Casey.
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The kid was most certainly morally justified to fight back, but I am still glad we have rules that suspended the kid. Sadly, laws and rules do not have opinions on morals like we do and I am sure the big wigs and even the law makers would say Casey was justified to fight back, but do not forget that laws are meant to keep people in check. For example, if Casey was legally able to fight back, then it would be much easier to start a fight using the right of self defense similar to Casey's situation whether it is true or not.
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On March 15 2011 04:10 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 04:02 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:58 TOCHMY wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:
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Are you fucking serious?
How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.
The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages. He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete. My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully) I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way. Sure, he's old enough. But this kid haven't been in many fights. Look at him, he got pissed, he snapped, probably didn't think about consequences, he probably didn't think at all. As many have said; He didn't think "body slamming him to the ground will probably kill him, so I should just punch him" he just defended himself, acted naturally, based on instinct. My problem is everyone on this thread is like "YEAH GO CASEY, THAT KID GOT WHAT HE DESERVED" He didn't deserve almost getting severely hurt/almost dieing, he deserved a beatdown. If he got beatdown by Casey, they wouldn't have bullied him anymore, guaranteed, but sometimes it usually takes 1 more random fight after the first one, to make sure they don't bully him again. Your argument is nothing more than self righteous. You're trying to tell us what YOU think he deserved exactly. Who are you to decide? By what arbitrary measure are you basing this on? At what point does what the kid deserve cross the threshold from 'a beatdown' to 'a bodyslam'? You're arguing for the sake of arguing, or just arguing because you think you have a greater sense of justice than others. News flash, you aren't on a god of morality who gets to decide what is the proper punishment for certain actions.
You're right, Casey was right for bodyslamming him. Infact the bully should've broken his neck from the fall. Silly 8th grade bullies, shouldn't pick on anyone unless they wanna DIE
You feel better now?
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On March 15 2011 04:11 deepfield1 wrote:
Is this a "special school"? Why would that little kid ever pick a fight with Casey..lol.
100% deserves it. Go Casey.
I think the only reason he went and did that was because he had 3-4 bigger (presumably high school?) kids backing him up. They probably put him up to it so they wouldn't get in trouble.
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On March 15 2011 04:11 Almin wrote:Fixed
Thanks i had no idea how :D
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On March 15 2011 03:59 TreDawg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
I disagree with your disagreement  If you poke a bear with a stick and it attacks you is there a single person that would blame the bear for getting poked with a stick?
A more accurate assessment would be something like poking a caged bear with a stick through bars every day for several years and then doing it one more time with cage door open.
Seriously, Casey's reaction is pretty calm, considering everything.It just so happened that bully was half the size of Casey.
He didn't do anything after the throw, it was a pure instinctual decision to make all that poking/jabbing and humiliation stop.This may be the changing point in both their lives.Maybe he defended himself BECAUSE he heard he was being filmed and was afraid that more people will humiliate laugh at him if video spreads.
Instead we got this little confrontation instead of hearing about yet another school shooting on the news 8 years later..
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See, when I was that age, I knew better than to mess with the future Geoff 'iNcontrol' Robinson. When you're a scrawny kid trying to bully a big kid, you're just asking for trouble.
I'll write a letter in support of Casey this evening. He did the right thing.
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