Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please.
On March 15 2011 03:44 irishash wrote: since the video is down, here is the move that casey did to the bully
he's just a farooq fan
Faroog friggin' owned
I can't believe how many babies are in this thread too. And how many people clearly have never been in a physical confrontation too 'oh but he should have though off the risks blah blah, punching him would have been safer'
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote: I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.
With great size, comes great responsibility.
I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it. If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!
I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.
Are you fucking serious?
How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.
The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.
He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work.
Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck.
There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards.
Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids.
Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years.
Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight.
Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person.
How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself.
The answer is obviously 0 for him, and all thse jokers saying a punch is enough. You can see the bully's friends in the background rushing to help him, except they saw shit got serious and ran like the cowards they were. If Casey had just punched the kid I guarantee they would be on him like a swarm and Casey would have been punched repeatedly and maybe even paralzyed(shocker!) for trying to fight back.
If he's big enough to bodyslam someone on the pavement, he's big enough to take 2-3 kids on by himself considering his weight & height..Those were some skinny kids that were picking on him, they would've stood no chance, it's just that they pick on the people that don't fight back, until now.
On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote: Can't believe you guys are saying that this kid took it too far. Fuck that, he just picked up the little shitbag and dumped him. Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
What happened in that video can be summed up by 3 words:
badass fucking justice
HELL YEAH, none of the good people in society ever did stupid shit while they were kids.
wtf is up with all of these people who have death wishes on kids being kids?
Kids being kids argument is fine and dandy then you have shit like Columbine happen BECAUSE of bullies. Sorry but bullying isn't as harmless as you make it out to be. Are you going to tell me that rape is just 'men being men?'
If he's big enough to bodyslam someone on the pavement, he's big enough to take 2-3 kids on by himself considering his weight & height..Those were some skinny kids that were picking on him, they would've stood no chance, it's just that they pick on the people that don't fight back, until now.
So instead of beating up one kid you wanted him to beat up 2-3? I don't get your line of thought. Also, it's easy to be a keyboard commando and analyze his actions, maybe you should put yourself in his shoes at the heat of the moment and consider whether you could make a level-headed decision.
I gotta agree with Merick even though he was banned, but perhaps for different reasons. Bullying is natural (if you believe in evolution). Most mammals do it and its a way to weed out the weak. The little kid was acting as normal as any other kid. I find it kind of disturbing that people feel the little one deserved to die lol. At the same time adrenaline took over the fat one and its also normal to lose control.
So there is no Right or Wrong here, only the rules. I'm sure the school rules are something along the lines of if you bully you get in trouble and if you are bullied go ask for help from a teacher or something. The fat one didn't do that and it caused even more violence. The fat one was just as responsible for violence as the little one which is why they have these rules in the first place.
Holy shit... Some of you guys need to take a step back and realize yourquestioning the judgement and ramifications of a 13 year old put under extreme conditions. Just drop it
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote: I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.
With great size, comes great responsibility.
I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it. If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!
I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.
Are you fucking serious?
How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.
The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.
He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work.
Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck.
There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards.
Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids.
Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years.
Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight.
Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person.
How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself.
The answer is obviously 0 for him, and all thse jokers saying a punch is enough. You can see the bully's friends in the background rushing to help him, except they saw shit got serious and ran like the cowards they were. If Casey had just punched the kid I guarantee they would be on him like a swarm and Casey would have been punched repeatedly and maybe even paralzyed(shocker!) for trying to fight back.
Actually the later part shows how it easy it is to stop bullying, at least a younger age. That girl just tells the guy to back off, and he does.
For all the people saying that Casey should have beat the kid up with his fists you should know that that would have been illegal while what he did would be considered self-defense, at least under American law. Under American law if you are attacked in an "unlawful use of force", which a slap/punch to the face would be considered an unlawful use of force, then you are allowed to use only as much force as is necessary to repel the force used against you. Casey did the right thing, he neutralized the unlawful force then left, ending the conflict. If he had stayed and beat up the kid than Casey would have committed assault.
Obviously there are much better ways of stopping someone from punching you then to body slam them but with no training and no time to consider every option I think Casey did the best thing he could have under the circumstances ,assuming that he has tried talking to adults and that those talks did nothing to stop the bullying.
On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote: Can't believe you guys are saying that this kid took it too far. Fuck that, he just picked up the little shitbag and dumped him. Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
What happened in that video can be summed up by 3 words:
badass fucking justice
HELL YEAH, none of the good people in society ever did stupid shit while they were kids.
wtf is up with all of these people who have death wishes on kids being kids?
I don't have death wishes on kids being kids, I have the wish to see badass fucking street justice doled out to all bullies. Casey basically just spinning piledrived this little faggot douchebag fuckface child. Good for him, he went Mike Haggar on his scrawny ass. All I feel about this video is justice justice justice. Badass fucking street justice.
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote: I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.
With great size, comes great responsibility.
I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it. If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!
I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.
Are you fucking serious?
How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.
The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.
He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work.
Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck.
There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards.
Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids.
Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years.
Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight.
Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person.
How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself.
I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages.
He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete.
My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully)
I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way.
LOL, did you really have time to asses the "risk percentages" of your fights? In a fight you barely have time, if any to asses all your possibilities. You seriously talk like you have never been in a serious situation and as if you valued life the same way you play again. "Risk percentage" That is just video game talking...
Don't ever pick on somebody/hurt them unless you are willing to take the chance that they might snap and seriously hurt or kill you. You never know what is going on in someone's head.
I liked the part where the kid hit him and in self defense casey body slammed him. but my favorite part was where everyone on this thread started to say self defense was wrong. irony?
When sticking up for yourself you are not looking for the approval of all the spectators and people walkin by not doing anything to help you, YOU are taking charge, YOU set the bar, and YOU take the consequences wether it was right or wrong, too far or not enough, none of us are really in a position to say,, every1 has their breaking point and most people really dont know what they are capable of till they are pushed to that limit,
Agreeing with Kennigit. When you're actually in a fight, in a situation like that, you don't fucking think "well how much damage am I going to do to this person? what are the potential legal and moral consequences? what is the safest way for me to subdue them?"
It's really easy for people who have never been in a confrontation to sit on their high horse and judge what happens, but honestly unless you've had a similar experience you're just talking out of your ass. There is no "thinking" during that adrenaline rush. I've been in that position, you just suddenly react, it's like you see red, tunnel vision, nothing is running through your mind your body just moves.
Especially when you're a kid who has never been in a fight before and you just reach the breaking point. That's not a state where you can really be rational at all.
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote: I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.
With great size, comes great responsibility.
I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it. If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!
I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.
Are you fucking serious?
How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.
The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing.
He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work.
Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck.
There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards.
Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids.
Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years.
Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight.
Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person.
How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself.
I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages.
He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete.
My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully)
I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way.
Sure, he's old enough. But this kid haven't been in many fights. Look at him, he got pissed, he snapped, probably didn't think about consequences, he probably didn't think at all. As many have said; He didn't think "body slamming him to the ground will probably kill him, so I should just punch him" he just defended himself, acted naturally, based on instinct.
On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote: I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
I disagree with your disagreement
If you poke a bear with a stick and it attacks you is there a single person that would blame the bear for getting poked with a stick?
*EDIT* I would hope that all the people on TL are smart enough to believe in Darwinism and a small kid picking a fight with a big kid and getting killed sure sounds like natural selection to me. I'm not saying I'm for murder but the more assholes who aren't being assholes (through violence or otherwise) the better.
On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote: Can't believe you guys are saying that this kid took it too far. Fuck that, he just picked up the little shitbag and dumped him. Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
What happened in that video can be summed up by 3 words:
badass fucking justice
HELL YEAH, none of the good people in society ever did stupid shit while they were kids.
wtf is up with all of these people who have death wishes on kids being kids?
Kids being kids argument is fine and dandy then you have shit like Columbine happen BECAUSE of bullies. Sorry but bullying isn't as harmless as you make it out to be. Are you going to tell me that rape is just 'men being men?'
bullying is common behavior in kids, and kids who bully often turn out just fine in adulthood. and no, Columbine didn't happen because of bullies; it happened because two kids brought guns to school and opened fire on their classmates. Bullying was one of the factors that contributed to their decision, but that doesn't mean that somehow bullies are directly responsible for school shootings.
i am so bewildered right now, are you actually arguing that kids who bully deserve broken necks? what. the. fuck. that is all I have to say.
On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote: Can't believe you guys are saying that this kid took it too far. Fuck that, he just picked up the little shitbag and dumped him. Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
What happened in that video can be summed up by 3 words:
badass fucking justice
HELL YEAH, none of the good people in society ever did stupid shit while they were kids.
wtf is up with all of these people who have death wishes on kids being kids?
Can you learn to read? You don't and you accuse people of doing not reading when you are doing the same thing.
Nice scarecrow argument you got there. Noone thinks the kid deserves to die. We however think he deserves whatever consequences that may result. He just might die as a result of punching random people. Actions have consequences, and sometimes unexpectedly bad consequences. Sometimes shit happens. People may die. Important life lesson.
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