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On March 15 2011 03:56 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:51 matjlav wrote:On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote:
Can't believe you guys are saying that this kid took it too far. Fuck that, he just picked up the little shitbag and dumped him. Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
What happened in that video can be summed up by 3 words:
badass fucking justice HELL YEAH, none of the good people in society ever did stupid shit while they were kids. wtf is up with all of these people who have death wishes on kids being kids? I don't have death wishes on kids being kids, I have the wish to see badass fucking street justice doled out to all bullies. Casey basically just spinning piledrived this little faggot douchebag fuckface child. Good for him, he went Mike Haggar on his scrawny ass. All I feel about this video is justice justice justice. Badass fucking street justice.
faggot little kid deserved a broken neck
okay
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On March 15 2011 03:57 carloselcoco wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:51 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.
With great size, comes great responsibility. I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it. If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!! I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again. Are you fucking serious? How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt. The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages.
He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete. My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully) I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way. LOL, did you really have time to asses the "risk percentages" of your fights? In a fight you barely have time, if any to asses all your possibilities. You seriously talk like you have never been in a serious situation and as if you valued life the same way you play again. "Risk percentage" That is just video game talking...
No, I'm just not a barbaric monkey like you. I actually think when I'm in fights *Gasp*
At your first point, unless you are extremely slow, you have plenty of time to think about what to do in a fight, unless you're one of those kids that just charges at a person throwing fists around to no avail..
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On March 15 2011 03:59 cascades wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:51 matjlav wrote:On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote:
Can't believe you guys are saying that this kid took it too far. Fuck that, he just picked up the little shitbag and dumped him. Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
What happened in that video can be summed up by 3 words:
badass fucking justice HELL YEAH, none of the good people in society ever did stupid shit while they were kids. wtf is up with all of these people who have death wishes on kids being kids? Can you learn to read? You don't and you accuse people of doing not reading when you are doing the same thing. Nice scarecrow argument you got there. Noone wishes the kid to die.
faggot little kid deserved a broken neck
can you learn to read?
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On March 15 2011 03:55 MuTT wrote:
I gotta agree with Merick even though he was banned, but perhaps for different reasons. Bullying is natural (if you believe in evolution). Most mammals do it and its a way to weed out the weak. The little kid was acting as normal as any other kid. I find it kind of disturbing that people feel the little one deserved to die lol. At the same time adrenaline took over the fat one and its also normal to lose control.
So there is no Right or Wrong here, only the rules. I'm sure the school rules are something along the lines of if you bully you get in trouble and if you are bullied go ask for help from a teacher or something. The fat one didn't do that and it caused even more violence. The fat one was just as responsible for violence as the little one which is why they have these rules in the first place.
Have you ever been bullied? I'm guessing from your response that you were the one dishing out the bullying and are now looking to justify yourself.
About the "most mammals" comment, people are not most mammals. Do you sniff your friends butt or do you greet them verbally or with a handshake? Do you throw someone out of their chair and take their lunch, or do you grab your own plate and eat peacfully? Years of physical and mental torture, especially at that age don't do well for your psyche, and factor in the obvious lack of help from "responsible" school staff, I'd say he was more than justified for what he did.
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On March 15 2011 03:59 matjlav wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:56 sc4k wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 matjlav wrote:On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote:
Can't believe you guys are saying that this kid took it too far. Fuck that, he just picked up the little shitbag and dumped him. Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
What happened in that video can be summed up by 3 words:
badass fucking justice HELL YEAH, none of the good people in society ever did stupid shit while they were kids. wtf is up with all of these people who have death wishes on kids being kids? I don't have death wishes on kids being kids, I have the wish to see badass fucking street justice doled out to all bullies. Casey basically just spinning piledrived this little faggot douchebag fuckface child. Good for him, he went Mike Haggar on his scrawny ass. All I feel about this video is justice justice justice. Badass fucking street justice. okay
I stand by those words.
Anyway, all I can say about this vid is I can't wait for the EPIC street fighter mashups with this video.
Saying someone deserved a broken neck for messing with someone he was clearly horribly physically overmatched by != wishing death on someone.
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On March 15 2011 04:00 Almin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:57 carloselcoco wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
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I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!
I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.
Are you fucking serious? How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt. The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages.
He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete. My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully) I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way. LOL, did you really have time to asses the "risk percentages" of your fights? In a fight you barely have time, if any to asses all your possibilities. You seriously talk like you have never been in a serious situation and as if you valued life the same way you play again. "Risk percentage" That is just video game talking... No, I'm just not a barbaric monkey like you. I actually think when I'm in fights *Gasp* At your first point, unless you are extremely slow, you have plenty of time to think about what to do in a fight, unless you're one of those kids that just charges at a person throwing fists around to no avail..
uh lashing out at people calling them barbaric monkeys doesn't really help you out here. we're talking about a little kid who snapped, it was obviously a really emotional moment. of course adults react differently and it depends on the situation. clearly UFC fighters are thinking when they fight and such.
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Hm, this was an interesting point:
Being a big kid in school this always happened to me
A group of bullies would get together and they'd send a smaller guy out to beat up on me.
Then if you did defend yourself more of them would come over and take you on
Then when teachers did come the others would say you beat up the smaller one and that's why they kicked your ass
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It is easy to sit back in our chairs and say that he took it too far. At the point that you are getting punched in the face there is little you can do that isn't justified. He did what it took to stop the kid from punching him and he did no more, he didn't hit him on the ground or hurt him more than what was necessary.
There may have been a bit of overkill but it would be difficult to know the minimal amount of force necessary to stop someone. I wouldn't have suspended him, it was done purely in self-defense otherwise he would have hit the kid when he was on the ground.
Also Kennigit fwiaghting.
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On March 15 2011 04:01 sc4k wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:59 matjlav wrote:On March 15 2011 03:56 sc4k wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 matjlav wrote:On March 15 2011 03:50 sc4k wrote:
Can't believe you guys are saying that this kid took it too far. Fuck that, he just picked up the little shitbag and dumped him. Faggot little child deserved a broken neck, as do all bullies.
What happened in that video can be summed up by 3 words:
badass fucking justice HELL YEAH, none of the good people in society ever did stupid shit while they were kids. wtf is up with all of these people who have death wishes on kids being kids? I don't have death wishes on kids being kids, I have the wish to see badass fucking street justice doled out to all bullies. Casey basically just spinning piledrived this little faggot douchebag fuckface child. Good for him, he went Mike Haggar on his scrawny ass. All I feel about this video is justice justice justice. Badass fucking street justice. faggot little kid deserved a broken neck okay I stand by those words.
but you turn around and say you don't have a death wish? unless you're going to turn around and say that you don't have a death wish, just a broken-neck-without-death wish, which is admittedly still pretty fucked up
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bullying is a joke.
the bully always walks away scott-free and the "bullied" continues to be bullied by "authority-figured"
basically if you're bullied you're in a catch-22 situation where whatever you do, you're fucked.
if you punch someone in the face (or in this case slam them to the ground) which is only the "tip of the iceberg" of what they deserve you're looked down upon for it. its amazing how appeasement and liberal ideologies work when violence are entered into the equation.
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took it too far ? fuck no, the skinny dumbass had it coming. i always felt for these kids being bullied and realistically it's on them alone to handle it, i mean, you know how it is at that age, even if you want to help there's not much you can do unless on rare occasions; we all need to learn the lessons of standing up for ourselves.
was his retaliation dangerous? yes, he deserves the suspension, he could've killed the bully. (but hell, come to think about it, this thing reminds me of ender's response to bullies in ender's game, now that's an interesting outlook on child violence :D)
rationally i'm assesing: was the lesson learned for both the bully and this casey kid ? i think so.
empathically ? gg fat kid
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On March 15 2011 03:58 TOCHMY wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:51 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.
With great size, comes great responsibility. I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it. If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!! I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again. Are you fucking serious? How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt. The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages. He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete. My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully) I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way. Sure, he's old enough. But this kid haven't been in many fights. Look at him, he got pissed, he snapped, probably didn't think about consequences, he probably didn't think at all. As many have said; He didn't think "body slamming him to the ground will probably kill him, so I should just punch him" he just defended himself, acted naturally, based on instinct.
My problem is everyone on this thread is like "YEAH GO CASEY, THAT KID GOT WHAT HE DESERVED"
He didn't deserve almost getting severely hurt/almost dieing, he deserved a beatdown. If he got beatdown by Casey, they wouldn't have bullied him anymore, guaranteed, but sometimes it usually takes 1 more random fight after the first one, to make sure they don't bully him again.
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On March 15 2011 03:51 cascades wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.
With great size, comes great responsibility. I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it. If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!! I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again. Are you fucking serious? How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt. The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. The answer is obviously 0 for him, and all these jokers saying a punch is enough. You can see the bully's friends in the background rushing to help him, except they saw shit got serious and ran like the cowards they were. If Casey had just punched the kid I guarantee they would be on him like a swarm and Casey would have been punched repeatedly and maybe even paralzyed(shocker!) for trying to fight back.
Very obviously, if you have to stop and think about anything in a fight even for a fraction of a second you already lost. That is why any self defense class drills into your head every basic defense technique that is at all useful on day one and has you refining those techniques for years. More advanced techniques can be useful but those are mostly distractions because you don't have time to actually use them unless you can do them w/o thinking.
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SICK SLAM.
was the boy all right? I understand he is not the victim here but man... That looked like he could have been hurt for real. Kids are mean man and you got to blame the parents and the school for not working it through.
I agree with travis that it was a sane response and to me it's just self defense
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On March 15 2011 04:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 04:00 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:57 carloselcoco wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:
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Are you fucking serious?
How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt.
The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages.
He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete. My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully) I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way. LOL, did you really have time to asses the "risk percentages" of your fights? In a fight you barely have time, if any to asses all your possibilities. You seriously talk like you have never been in a serious situation and as if you valued life the same way you play again. "Risk percentage" That is just video game talking... No, I'm just not a barbaric monkey like you. I actually think when I'm in fights *Gasp* At your first point, unless you are extremely slow, you have plenty of time to think about what to do in a fight, unless you're one of those kids that just charges at a person throwing fists around to no avail.. uh lashing out at people calling them barbaric monkeys doesn't really help you out here. we're talking about a little kid who snapped, it was obviously a really emotional moment. of course adults react differently and it depends on the situation. clearly UFC fighters are thinking when they fight and such.
I'm not sure what you think fights are like, but 99.5% of street fights are not boxing matches like rocky balboa vs tommy gunn.... They wind up on the ground after about 3 seconds, and are grappling until someone breaks them up. Except when someone is getting mugged, when 6 or 7 guys will jump them and beat the hell out of them before taking their wallet and running off.
I don't believe I've ever heard of a non-sparring match that didn't simply go down into a wrestling match.
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Lol at people defending the bully? It'd have been 100% his own fault if his neck had been broken.
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On March 15 2011 04:02 Almin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:58 TOCHMY wrote:On March 15 2011 03:51 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:
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I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it.
If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!!
I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again.
Are you fucking serious? How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt. The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. I've been in several, enough to actually assess the risk percentages. He's old enough to know the consequences of body slamming someone, nearly headfirst on the concrete. My point is, he took it too far considering that if he went into a fistacuffs fight with the kid, he would've beat him hands down, and would've ended with the same results, the bullies not picking on him anymore(hopefully) I'm not defending anyone, but the way Casey handled it was wrong, and was much more dangerous than some bully punching him a few times in the face. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if he had gotten in a fistfight, the little kid would've backed off him in the future since he would've lost either way. Sure, he's old enough. But this kid haven't been in many fights. Look at him, he got pissed, he snapped, probably didn't think about consequences, he probably didn't think at all. As many have said; He didn't think "body slamming him to the ground will probably kill him, so I should just punch him" he just defended himself, acted naturally, based on instinct. My problem is everyone on this thread is like "YEAH GO CASEY, THAT KID GOT WHAT HE DESERVED" He didn't deserve almost getting severely hurt/almost dieing,
nah, he deserved whatever the fuck he got. You mess with Mike Haggar in child form, your funeral.
Artist's rendition of Casey in 20 years' time:
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On March 15 2011 04:04 Patriot.dlk wrote:
SICK SLAM.
was the boy all right? I understand he is not the victim here but man... That looked like he could have been hurt for real. Kids are mean man and you got to blame the parents and the school for not working it through.
I agree with travis that it was a sane response and to me it's just self defense
Yes he is he was doing that purely in self defense, and they had been bullying him long enough to plan on recording it. Just because this one time he fought back and won he is still completely the victim.
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On March 15 2011 04:03 wswordsmen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 03:51 cascades wrote:On March 15 2011 03:45 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:39 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:20 Kennigit wrote:On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote:On March 15 2011 03:08 carloselcoco wrote:On March 15 2011 02:52 Almin wrote:
I disagree, Casey took it way too far, could've easily killed the kid.
Rather would've seen Casey beat the shit out of that smaller kid, which he easily could have, rather take it to that level.
With great size, comes great responsibility. I wonder if you have ever been bullied in your life. Doesn't seem like it. If you were bullied, you know that when you snap, well.. YOU SNAP!!! I used to be bullied by this big kid and once when he pushed me to the ground (while being in the ground) I went for his nuts. The kid cried non-stop and never bullied me again. Are you fucking serious? How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt. The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. He didn't nearly kill him. Please calm down. At worst he would have knocked him out or given him a concussion. When you are bullied, you need to shock the crowd to make it stop. Mediocre responses don't work. Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. Yeah I don't mind if the little kid gets his ass whopped, but I think it's wrong to be beat up in that way because the bigger kid could've easily taken the smaller kid with fists/legs, and severely beat him so he wouldn't pick on him again. But to bodyslam another person on the concrete with the knowledge that it might kill/cripple him for LIFE, is not the right way to fight. Smash him into the ground with fists/legs, I would approve! A much lower chance of seriously hurting the person. How many fights have you been in? Serious question, because when you fight you don't calmly sit down over the fire and figure out risk percentages. In fact the adrenaline is so high that you often have very vague memories of what exactly happened. Its really silly to argue about the body slam itself. The answer is obviously 0 for him, and all these jokers saying a punch is enough. You can see the bully's friends in the background rushing to help him, except they saw shit got serious and ran like the cowards they were. If Casey had just punched the kid I guarantee they would be on him like a swarm and Casey would have been punched repeatedly and maybe even paralzyed(shocker!) for trying to fight back. Very obviously, if you have to stop and think about anything in a fight even for a fraction of a second you already lost. That is why any self defense class drills into your head every basic defense technique that is at all useful on day one and has you refining those techniques for years. More advanced techniques can be useful but those are mostly distractions because you don't have time to actually use them unless you can do them w/o thinking.
@Your first point
I don't know about you guys, but when I used to get into fights, shit talking came first, pushing came soon after, and then punches started flying, all in a span of 10-20seconds. Plenty of time to think about how to start off and finish the fight.
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On March 15 2011 04:05 Shikyo wrote:
Lol at people defending the bully? It'd have been 100% his own fault if his neck had been broken.
I agree it would have been his fault, but unlike some people, I don't think that that would have been a desirable outcome to the situation. People that are too lazy to actually read what I'm saying are just assuming that I don't think that the bully deserved what he got.
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