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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
March 11 2011 14:22 GMT
#761
Looking at the footage, I think they will be finding bodies weeks to months afterwards. It will probably be days before the emergency services can safely get to some of the worst hit areas - debris on roads etc.
Good luck to everyone in Japan, or any of the places about to be hit by the tsunami.
"I post only when my brain works." - Reaper9
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
March 11 2011 14:23 GMT
#762
It will probably take months to clear the debris off the land :/
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 14:26:03
March 11 2011 14:25 GMT
#763
On March 11 2011 23:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
These type of catastrophes are manmade because a bad infrastructure will do terrible damage. Luckily, I believe that the Japanese are really good at damage prevention and from what I've read so far, so on balance, that's always really good.

Still, hope everyone is ok and prayers go out to those that were unfortunately killed in the disaster.

earthquakes are not man made. sinkholes and dirt avalanches can be, but not earthquakes. come on, nobody is rubbing continental plates together to get oil or something ridiculous like this.

The only man made thing about this catastrophe is its impact - but people are stubborn like this, living in the most dangerous places.
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 14:33:11
March 11 2011 14:25 GMT
#764
woah they just showed a footage of parts of a city burning o.q

[image loading]
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Macabre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1262 Posts
March 11 2011 14:25 GMT
#765
BBC reporter in Japan just said that one news agency over there is reporting 8000 - 10,000 missing.
Those who know how to think need no teachers. Tasteless - I think I'll take my shirt off and let my muscles do the casting
pyorotemjin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States95 Posts
March 11 2011 14:25 GMT
#766
i'm here in tokyo now; was trying to transfer planes but the earthquakes started happening during my layover. needless to say i'm stuck at Narita right now, and aftershocks are still vibrating the building as i type this post.
two things for you guys to look at
1) incredible LR site by timeouttokyo -- really well done http://www.timeout.jp/en/tokyo/feature/2530/Japan-earthquake-live-report
2) just wrote a blog about it a few hours ago. + Show Spoiler +
So today I was supposed to be going to see my family (and finally meet my brother’s girlfriend) in Hawaii for spring break. The plan was to leave from Beijing pretty early — at the time of starting to write this, about twelve hours ago (7.30 Beijing time) — have a five-hour layover in Tokyo, then a seven or so hour flight to honolulu, another layover and then wind up in Kuai. All told it was supposed to be fifteen or so hours of flying; certainly not pleasant by any stretch of the imagination but not awful (and it’s hard to complain at all when your end destination is Hawaii). I didn’t quite make it that far, though.

I’d been in Japan maybe five minutes — having not even finished taxing — when the first one hit. For anyone out there in readerland who for whatever reason hasn’t yet experienced a high-magnitude earthquake from an airplane, allow me to describe:
It’s exactly like midair turbulence. Like, I was trying to deplane, and walking around I felt precisely the same sensation of unsteadiness that you get when you’re trying to get down the isle to a bathroom while the plane is going through a storm. So even though we were clearly grounded and stopped, my brain’s immediate reaction to the feeling was “oh. this turbulence is pretty nasty” followed by “ok wait turbulence is impossible, we’re grounded, so man I guess there must be some hell of a wind out there” to “ok there’s no way wind can be this strong and it definitely feels like we’re moving, but looking out the window we clearly — oh holy shit the entire airport is shaking and the windows look like they’re made of rubber what the christ is happening.”

Then the captain came on, said it was due to ‘seismic activity’ and then five seconds later I learned the Chinese word for earthquake. Didn’t quite expect to ever just pick that one up from daily life.
Getting off the plane, the first thing I saw was that first image below. Not so bad. Then I saw the second one. First time in my life I’ve been glad to have been seated near the back of the plane. People near the front of the plane were already off the plane in the area where shit was falling from the ceiling when the quake hit; if someone had been standing under that huge grate it would be… problematic.

For the next half hour or so, we just waited in the lobby with that second picture as the building got rocked by aftershock after aftershock. Incidentally, people are saying these were in fact entirely new earthquakes, but I don’t get the distinction. In any event, it was kinda a scary time; I realized partway through the second big quake that I was standing under a terminal directions sign that was wobbling rather severely. Rather, I didn’t realize this, but the Chinese guys next to me did and I overheard them tell each other to move. Never let anyone tell you that Mandarin isn’t a handy language to know. After that I hung out by a wall after that for a while, until they eventually unloaded everyone onto the tarmac.

So: earthquakes on a plane feel like turbulence, and earthquakes on a building feel like you’re riding a subway without holding onto anything, but earthquakes when you’re just standing on solid, flat ground are above all the most disconcerting. It almost feels like you’re dizzy, because when you start feeling movement while standing still on a huge flat expanse of asphalt your brain automatically assumes that the fault lies with it as opposed to the Earth. So you have to consciously convince yourself that your sense of balance is fine, and it’s actually the Earth moving beneath you; it’s a strange mental conversation to have.

Another bit of advice that isn’t — if you’re going to be in an airport getting hit by earthquakes, do it in Japan. Their reaction was perfect, and pretty timely. Pictures three to six are about the lengths that they went to to get everyone seated and comfortable — they had people sitting on the tarmac vehicles, on the luggage carriers, on these random couches that 300 workers in identical blue suits and white hardhats dragged out from godknowswhere. They put out buses, vans, huge plastic tarps, countless chairs. Best of all they passed out tons and tons of airport blankets and then, when they ran out of those they started handing out bath towels. I again have no clue where an airport produced hundreds of towels from, but I know that Douglas Adams would be proud.

Now, due to the “indeterminate” — read: canceled — nature of all the flights, I’m sitting in the lobby that you see in the last picture. They’re passing around candy and water and ritz crackers. I was able to get a power outlet by acting very, very fast and it’s made me incredibly popular. I’ve set up a really elaborate power-rotation so that in the past three or so hours we’ve had a dozen or so people keep a whole lot of devices sustained off of three outlets. And my laptop is the only one around with 3 usb ports so I’m charging 3 different phones at all times… the amount of camaraderie built by situations like this is pretty awesome.

As of the 9:30pm posting time of this blog, my dad has somehow managed to get me onto a flight bound for houston leaving sometime tomorrow. Also, in the last ten minutes, a flight to D.C. was allowed to take off; the runways are uncracked and operable. I am hopeful that I’ll be in the states within 24 hours. Unavoidably camping out at the airport tonight, but it’s actually kinda fun. Still more pleasant than camping in my powerless/heatless house was, anyway…

“Most powerful earthquake to hit Japan in 100 years” is what the guy next to me is reading…wow

Pictures mentioned (some of the damage to the airport, some of the conditions of the people having to stay overnight here) are viewable on the blog site itself, not sure if i'm supposed to link to that or not but it's here + Show Spoiler +
http://kevin.thecagematch.org/archives/1165
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
March 11 2011 14:26 GMT
#767
On March 11 2011 23:23 thoradycus wrote:
It will probably take months to clear the debris off the land :/


Another big problem is that the sludge and salt water poison all those fields and areas that were flooded. People won't be able to cultivate food or other things on those fields without an incredibly expensive clean-up operation and soil replacement.
zeeQue
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
March 11 2011 14:27 GMT
#768
On March 11 2011 23:23 thoradycus wrote:
It will probably take months to clear the debris off the land :/


We're probably talking at least a year to clear up the damage, I keep trying to take my mind off this, but keep going back to the BBC news stream.
Mangemongen
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden125 Posts
March 11 2011 14:28 GMT
#769
On March 11 2011 21:56 RoosterSamurai wrote:
But CNN reported that the ships in pearl harbor refuse to go help. I hope Obama slaps some sense into them, and I hope Japan will be okay.


Pleasee I will feel so bad if that's the case GOSH.

I so hope no more people have to die. My thoughts to everyone over there.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 14:32:31
March 11 2011 14:31 GMT
#770
On March 11 2011 23:28 Mangemongen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 21:56 RoosterSamurai wrote:
But CNN reported that the ships in pearl harbor refuse to go help. I hope Obama slaps some sense into them, and I hope Japan will be okay.


Pleasee I will feel so bad if that's the case GOSH.

I so hope no more people have to die. My thoughts to everyone over there.


Probably because Hawaii is going to be hit hard too. Saving all the boats for use domestically rather than foreignly.

That or the boats don't want to run into the tsunami out at sea, maybe it's better to stay in the harbor. Doesn't seem like it would work that way, but maybe.

EDIT: one of my dad's best friends is in Hawaii on his honeymoon. Surreal.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
March 11 2011 14:32 GMT
#771
On March 11 2011 23:26 TimeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 23:23 thoradycus wrote:
It will probably take months to clear the debris off the land :/


Another big problem is that the sludge and salt water poison all those fields and areas that were flooded. People won't be able to cultivate food or other things on those fields without an incredibly expensive clean-up operation and soil replacement.

yea,i saw a giant tsunami with debris roll over an extremely large farming area and i was like damn thats a lot of possible food destroyed
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
March 11 2011 14:35 GMT
#772
On March 11 2011 23:25 smileyyy wrote:
woah they just showed a footage of parts of a city burning o.q


That is probably the fire inferno caused by the oil refinery in Chiba. There is still no way to control the fire.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
March 11 2011 14:36 GMT
#773
Can anyone give the link to the bbc stream pls? its not in the OP.
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
March 11 2011 14:37 GMT
#774
On March 11 2011 23:36 thoradycus wrote:
Can anyone give the link to the bbc stream pls? its not in the OP.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
...
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
March 11 2011 14:37 GMT
#775
[image loading]

wow so unbelievable! :o
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
March 11 2011 14:39 GMT
#776
A nuclear powerplant in Fukushima cant be cooled anymore. Lets hope the shut down mechanism works properly o.q
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32071 Posts
March 11 2011 14:40 GMT
#777
On March 11 2011 22:46 TimeOut wrote:
Someone from the World Nuclear Association now explaining the situation about the nuclear power plants in Japan on AJE.

Pretty interesting and he confirms that there is no immediate danger to the surroundings and that there are no radiation leaks.

Edit / Update: Woah, on the live stream from Hawaii you could see the water receding so far that the reefs are visible.


Is there a video of this?? That's wild. A friend of friend literally landed in hawaii a few hours ago, that's gotta be a hell of a surprise...
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-11 14:46:44
March 11 2011 14:40 GMT
#778
This picture is supposedly of the chemical factory in Sendai which was on fire and just now exploded.. :o

Holy shitballs, that's a huge explosion!
[image loading]
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 11 2011 14:40 GMT
#779
On March 11 2011 23:40 ELA wrote:
This picture is supposedly of the chemical factory which was on fire and just now exploded.. :o

Holy shitballs, that's a huge explosion!
[image loading]


Holy sh!t i posted a quote saying it happened but I didn't think it would be that big!!!!
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tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
March 11 2011 14:41 GMT
#780
i can't believe what will happen to all those small islands in the pacific. they can't do anything, they're stuck on those island. very likely many will not even know what's going on. sigh.
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